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Does Mathematical Innumeracy foster superstitions and support the belief in them?

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Does Mathematical Innumeracy foster superstitions and support the belief in them?

Yes [ 9 ]  [45.00%]
No [ 11 ]  [55.00%]
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but i am not going to lie to you, this world is so UPSIDED DOWN IS SUCH A JUMBLE such a mess because of the different beliefs people have....is like dividing every county in the world into a different language...

Pumpi:  I agree.  People inside the same county might as well be speaking different languages for all the meaningful communication they manage.  On the other hand, the only communicating a lot of them want to do isn't worth the bother of pretending what's being expressed has any value.   Paraphrasing is probably a lot of what's going on.  Someone using a lot of lofty rhetoric that says on the surface it's about concepts, but underneath it always carries the message, "I hate myself and I hate everyone else".

That's the language from one of the adjoining counties keeps trying to drown out any music playing in this one.


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    Mathematical Innumeracy... hmmm...  Is there some other kind?

    Oh well, whatever...

    I'm just glad this dry drought is over.

    I'm glad we're getting some wet rain.

    Boy, leave it to you to really think about the question.

    I was wondering when someone would pick up on that.

    You are not the drunken hayseed and freak your avatar has you.

    DD

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    thatnk you for poring over every word of, mine to look for spelling and gramtical errors. it wuz wurth it too me .;)

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      Well guys, no wonder that males are supposed to die out like dinosaurs. Each and every forum frequented mostly by men sooner or later turn into a macho

      contest. It helps nobody, even if such an intention was at the very start. Just a fight like so many times in history.

      Adamcustom:  You don't appear to appreciate how important the opinions people hold about how lottery tickets should be bought are.  Nor, for that matter, do you seem to realize that whether people know a lot about math or don't know a lot about math is the measure of whether they have value as human beings.

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        Boy, leave it to you to really think about the question.

        I was wondering when someone would pick up on that.

        You are not the drunken hayseed and freak your avatar has you.

        DD

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        thatnk you for poring over every word of, mine to look for spelling and gramtical errors. it wuz wurth it too me .;)

        errare humanum est


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

         

         

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          errare humanum est

          Is that YOU or Jack talking? Wink Jack Daniels

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            Is that YOU or Jack talking? Wink Jack Daniels

            We're a tag team. StretchStretch


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                        --Edmund Burke

             

             


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              Adamcustom:  You don't appear to appreciate how important the opinions people hold about how lottery tickets should be bought are.  Nor, for that matter, do you seem to realize that whether people know a lot about math or don't know a lot about math is the measure of whether they have value as human beings.

              Sounds like entitlement speak CT. try cornhuskers instead of SkinSoSoft on the monkey. Go ahead, talk amongst yourself.

              Humanum fuit errare, diabolicum est per animositatem in errore manere.

              or, stupid is as stupid does.

              DD


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                Well guys, no wonder that males are supposed to die out like dinosaurs. Each and every forum frequented mostly by men sooner or later turn into a macho

                contest. It helps nobody, even if such an intention was at the very start. Just a fight like so many times in history.

                Adamcustom,

                When Joey informed you earlier of the importance of your lottery selection techniques and math knowledge...

                Adamcustom:  You don't appear to appreciate how important the opinions people hold about how lottery tickets should be bought are.  Nor, for that matter, do you seem to realize that whether people know a lot about math or don't know a lot about math is the measure of whether they have value as human beings.

                ...he clearly wants you to feel OK about yourself even if your math skills could stand some improvement.  That's nice of him.  However, he really should have mentioned that the LESS you know about math, the more likely you will be to contribute to causes that benefit him.

                --Jimmy4164

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                  Adam

                  Humanum fuit errare, diabolicum est per animositatem in errore manere.

                  While it is human to make mistakes,  boldly refusing to learn from them is diabolical.

                  Can't get this from google translate, thought you might want to know.

                  RL

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                    Adam

                    Humanum fuit errare, diabolicum est per animositatem in errore manere.

                    While it is human to make mistakes,  boldly refusing to learn from them is diabolical.

                    Can't get this from google translate, thought you might want to know.

                    RL

                    Good luck RL

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                      Adam

                      Humanum fuit errare, diabolicum est per animositatem in errore manere.

                      While it is human to make mistakes,  boldly refusing to learn from them is diabolical.

                      Can't get this from google translate, thought you might want to know.

                      RL

                      RL,

                      Thanks. Good to hear and know.

                      And for you Jimmy: " timeo Danaos et dona ferentes".

                       

                      Adam

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                        Pumpi:  I agree.  People inside the same county might as well be speaking different languages for all the meaningful communication they manage.  On the other hand, the only communicating a lot of them want to do isn't worth the bother of pretending what's being expressed has any value.   Paraphrasing is probably a lot of what's going on.  Someone using a lot of lofty rhetoric that says on the surface it's about concepts, but underneath it always carries the message, "I hate myself and I hate everyone else".

                        That's the language from one of the adjoining counties keeps trying to drown out any music playing in this one.

                        Pumpi:  I saw on your blog that you're winding things down in preparation to leave LP.  I can't say I've ever really understood why you were here in the first place, but I've enjoyed reading your posts.  You've always been detached and congenial in your posts, despite what's probably been more slurs, ugliness and innuendo directed at you than any member in the history of LP. 

                        Whatever you might or mightn't have contributed in terms of math discussions, lottery systems discussions, or other forum discussions, someone ought to give you a medal for that aspect of your history of posts.  The rest of us could learn a lot from you in that regard.

                        Good luck to you in whatever comes next in your life.

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                          RL,

                          Thanks. Good to hear and know.

                          And for you Jimmy: " timeo Danaos et dona ferentes".

                           

                          Adam

                          adamcustom:  Fear might be a stronger reaction than is justified by "a wild tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing".

                          Most of us here qualify one way or another.

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                            adamcustom:  Fear might be a stronger reaction than is justified by "a wild tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing".

                            Most of us here qualify one way or another.

                            JosephusMinimus

                            I fear not gifts, but have learned to watch my back when Danaos bring those gifts.

                            Pls take it what I said cum grano salis. Many places I've been to are very much alike. Just the same as in our real life, whatever it may mean. People are friendly

                            or not, give us a hand or just try to use us as an ego-boosting device.

                            The good thing is we do not have to be in places we do not like. It's good to speak with people who want to listen to us, even if we are not 100% right. Even

                            better if we share same values that are dear to us.

                            Lottery or not, maths or humanities.


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                              adamcustom:  Fear might be a stronger reaction than is justified by "a wild tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing".

                              Most of us here qualify one way or another.

                              Innumeracy:

                              "To combat [innumeracy] John Allen Paulos has concocted
                              the perfectvaccine: this book, which is in many ways better than an entire
                              high school math eductation! Our society would be unimaginably different if the
                              average person truly understood the ideas in this marvelous and important book.
                              It is probably hopelessly optimistic to dream this way, but I hope that
                              Innumeracy might help launch a revolution in math education that would do for
                              innumeracy what Sabin and Salk did for polio." - Douglas Hofstadter,
                              author of Godel, Escher, and Bach

                               

                              The innumerate will surely profit from this entertaining
                              book. - Morris Kline, New York Times Book Review

                              The world, as seen by Paulos, is less mysterious, yet
                              somehow more elegant, less magical, yet more wonderful. So many apparently
                              strange events do, in fact, become all the more magnificent in their
                              not-so-fearful symmetry. - Arthur Salm, San Diego Tribune

                              This elegant survival manual is brief, witty, and full of
                              practical applications. - Stefan Kanfer, Time Magazine.

                              Beyond Innumeracy:

                              If you've ever wanted to recapture that sense of near-mystical rapture, there is no better place than
                              this book, and no more humane and enthusiastic mentor than John Allen Paulos,
                              who does for mathematics what The Joy of Sex did for the boudoir interface.
                              ..... Paulos painstakingly presents even the most recondite ideas in concrete,
                              easily visualizable terms. ..... But Paulos's principal genius lies in the
                              recognition that many of those humans are "unknowing mathophiles" who
                              "have been thinking math all their lives without realizing it." For
                              those, for anyone, who ever sat rapt at the austere beauty of a proof and later
                              wondered where the wonder went, it's here. -- Curt Suplee. Washington Post

                              Beyond Numeracy will uundoubtedly entertain and educate many
                              people and open up for them the mysterious and closed book - the book of the
                              universe, as Galileo had it - of mathematics. -- Brian Rotman. London Times
                              Literary Supplement

                              http://www.math.temple.edu/~paulos/reviews.html

                              That post on the human condition is making me tear-up a little.

                              That is because I threw-up a little in my throat.

                              It is under control now. It is called being human.

                               

                              I double-dare you boys to read the book Innumeracy. Do it in spite of me so you can
                              really tell me all about it because I have not read it. You can be the expert
                              on it. You can be cleaver.

                              I would think that any numeric who is looking for a fresh view would read the book for new insight. But, like they say "what you don't know won't hurt you".  No one ever gives you an education, it is what you take that qualifies you.

                              What have you to fear? Is an opinion more important than fact? Don't trust me that the world is not flat. I will be reading both books soon because any topic that gets attacked like innumeracy as seen in this thread has to  be good. I wonder what the book will have to say about how most participated in this thread? Can your egos take it? Can you check yourself? Get the audio book if reading bores you.

                              I had only heard about the concept of innumeracy from something I came across. I had no idea there as a book published on it. Thanks Jimmy. Do you think the Author ever sat in Abe's lap at the end of the city mall near the old Gashouse?

                               

                              DD

                              PS Joey, what did you think about Pumpi's thoughts and comments on having sex with babies? Have a man child relative killed by such a sex freak and let me know what you think then. Go to trial and be forced to have the pictures of the victim on review and then tell me what is acceptable and what you learned from that. Celebrate that kind of diversity.