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Does Mathematical Innumeracy foster superstitions and support the belief in them?

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Does Mathematical Innumeracy foster superstitions and support the belief in them?

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Posted: May 23, 2011, 1:19 am - IP Logged

Good one Jimmy

do you think someone with an IQ of 143 could figure out what the punchline is?

 

How about this?

http://thenumerati.net/?postID=498&pie-chart-innumeracy

or    http://www.flickr.com/photos/functoruser/3717822351/

DD

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    Interesting somethig like the NBA draft would be brough up in a thread trying to refute superstition.

    Sports, gambling, and entertainment are full of superstition.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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      Interesting somethig like the NBA draft would be brough up in a thread trying to refute superstition.

      Sports, gambling, and entertainment are full of superstition.

      Oh thank you Jimmy!

      CT’s post just brought in another $2,000.00

      There are a few more side bets to win so I will not give away the details.

      The most I can win is ten grand and it looks good. The big bet is five grand.

      DD BananaBananaBananaBanana

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        Good one Jimmy

        do you think someone with an IQ of 143 could figure out what the punchline is?

         

        How about this?

        http://thenumerati.net/?postID=498&pie-chart-innumeracy

        or    http://www.flickr.com/photos/functoruser/3717822351/

        DD

        DD

        Ha, Ha. Should have said I scored above 99.96% of everyone who took the same test, making fun of a disability

        is right down your alley.  Is this all you got, sadly I think it is.  Maybe someday you will post something that shows

        a little intellect instead of hiding behind insults.       

        RL

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        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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          DD

          Ha, Ha. Should have said I scored above 99.96% of everyone who took the same test, making fun of a disability

          is right down your alley.  Is this all you got, sadly I think it is.  Maybe someday you will post something that shows

          a little intellect instead of hiding behind insults.       

          RL

          RL,

          Ha HA! is right.

          Can you get a refund on your education? There is a name for people with large heads. Your SAT score only documents what you knew and how well you tested on an exam you could cram for. Now you want to brow beat me with your old IQ and a SAT score when you cannot answer a yes/no question? Ha HA! Moonwatcher, go throw your bone and howl at the moon, ad astra.

          DD

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            Oh thank you Jimmy!

            CT’s post just brought in another $2,000.00

            There are a few more side bets to win so I will not give away the details.

            The most I can win is ten grand and it looks good. The big bet is five grand.

            DD BananaBananaBananaBanana

            DD

            Maybe a course in some remedial math, First you say that you made a grand off of CT's first post and 

            then after his second post you made another $2,000,00.  Now I am really confused, maybe you are

            somehow predicting the future in anticipation, Or maybe you just can't count, which is it.

            RL

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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              DD

              I think your betting and winning streak here is all just a big illusion.

              RL

              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                DD

                Don't feel to bad, Obama once said he had visited 57 states with only one to go but he was not allowed

                to go to AK. or HI.   Did not take me much thought to know what he meant to say while others still haven't

                figured it out.

                RL

                Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                  US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  


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                  DD

                  Don't feel to bad, Obama once said he had visited 57 states with only one to go but he was not allowed

                  to go to AK. or HI.   Did not take me much thought to know what he meant to say while others still haven't

                  figured it out.

                  RL

                  “Don’t feel to bad”?????

                  My-my a triple bump! You really need to get out of your parent’s basement.

                  That’s okay RL, innumeracy precludes your understanding. Don’t lose any more sleep
                  over it. You should have recognized that being you are a confessed a dyslexic
                  with a high IQ. What was your SAT ranking again? Was that a national percentile
                  or the local one?

                  I know comprehension is difficult there and If I were you I would be crowing my
                  whole life about my IQ and SAT score, but if you reread the post, the first two
                  grand were clearly explained for the conditions that needed to be met. The
                  second 2 G’s conditional outline was not explained. You ever have trouble with
                  word problems Mr. 143?    2G’s +2G’s = 4G’s  Gee!

                  If it pleases you, this is entertainment related as well as educational for the
                  guys on Monday who will be all over this thread, getting paid to read the mail.
                  It should liven up the week before the big weekend for many. Innumeracy
                  influences action that is very predictable.

                  Innumeracy is a goldmine. Always was. It has not been this good in a long time.

                  Good morning England and the EU! time to rally

                  DD

                  PS
                       ‘ante’ is the correct spelling for ‘anti’. Ha-ha.

                  Hey,
                  throw me a bone here, Where does the decimal go on your "to bad" 143?

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                    “Don’t feel to bad”?????

                    My-my a triple bump! You really need to get out of your parent’s basement.

                    That’s okay RL, innumeracy precludes your understanding. Don’t lose any more sleep
                    over it. You should have recognized that being you are a confessed a dyslexic
                    with a high IQ. What was your SAT ranking again? Was that a national percentile
                    or the local one?

                    I know comprehension is difficult there and If I were you I would be crowing my
                    whole life about my IQ and SAT score, but if you reread the post, the first two
                    grand were clearly explained for the conditions that needed to be met. The
                    second 2 G’s conditional outline was not explained. You ever have trouble with
                    word problems Mr. 143?    2G’s +2G’s = 4G’s  Gee!

                    If it pleases you, this is entertainment related as well as educational for the
                    guys on Monday who will be all over this thread, getting paid to read the mail.
                    It should liven up the week before the big weekend for many. Innumeracy
                    influences action that is very predictable.

                    Innumeracy is a goldmine. Always was. It has not been this good in a long time.

                    Good morning England and the EU! time to rally

                    DD

                    PS
                         ‘ante’ is the correct spelling for ‘anti’. Ha-ha.

                    Hey,
                    throw me a bone here, Where does the decimal go on your "to bad" 143?

                    The man in this link was the most intelligent person, I have ever known or work with. Never once did I hear him talk down to someone or belittle someone, due to lack of education or understanding the point, he was addressing.

                    http://www.gfy.ku.dk/~iag/newslett/news7606.htm

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                      The man in this link was the most intelligent person, I have ever known or work with. Never once did I hear him talk down to someone or belittle someone, due to lack of education or understanding the point, he was addressing.

                      http://www.gfy.ku.dk/~iag/newslett/news7606.htm

                      Hi Carbob:  Must have been nice knowing the guy.  Some talk down, others don't, and the downtalking doesn't take anything away from what they have to say, provided they have something to say.  It's still worth the effort of listening, trying to comprehend.  It's worth being belittled, which doesn't amount to anything, for an opportunity to learn something, which might.

                      On the other hand, there's a substantial piece of the population prone to downtalk and belittle without having anything at all to say worth listening to. The downtalking and belittling still doesn't do any harm to the person belittled or downtalked to.  But it changes the equation considerably.

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                        “Don’t feel to bad”?????

                        My-my a triple bump! You really need to get out of your parent’s basement.

                        That’s okay RL, innumeracy precludes your understanding. Don’t lose any more sleep
                        over it. You should have recognized that being you are a confessed a dyslexic
                        with a high IQ. What was your SAT ranking again? Was that a national percentile
                        or the local one?

                        I know comprehension is difficult there and If I were you I would be crowing my
                        whole life about my IQ and SAT score, but if you reread the post, the first two
                        grand were clearly explained for the conditions that needed to be met. The
                        second 2 G’s conditional outline was not explained. You ever have trouble with
                        word problems Mr. 143?    2G’s +2G’s = 4G’s  Gee!

                        If it pleases you, this is entertainment related as well as educational for the
                        guys on Monday who will be all over this thread, getting paid to read the mail.
                        It should liven up the week before the big weekend for many. Innumeracy
                        influences action that is very predictable.

                        Innumeracy is a goldmine. Always was. It has not been this good in a long time.

                        Good morning England and the EU! time to rally

                        DD

                        PS
                             ‘ante’ is the correct spelling for ‘anti’. Ha-ha.

                        Hey,
                        throw me a bone here, Where does the decimal go on your "to bad" 143?

                        DD

                        I am totally convinced that you not only suffer from innumeracy but illiteracy also.   Be very interested

                        to know your imaginary betting friends name.   Does this person visit your srink with you and if so do

                        you have to pay double?  Use that four grand wisely maybe you can buy a motel or a couple houses

                        your next roll of the dice.  Move out of my parents basement, now thats original but your about 35

                        years to late.  Mr 143, I like that but seems to me you missed the point by a mile.  While many did try

                        and make a big deal way back then I thought it was meaningless and still don't see a connection between

                        my scores and the lottery.  I would also like you to explain in detail how this will help me win the lottery.

                        My math skills are intact and I would bet that they are somewhat beyound what you think you know. 

                        What will you do with the data gathered from this topic because I would be most interested in knowing. 

                        Maybe will you will use it to lobby congress to up the spending on education.  I would rather think that it

                        was a poor attempt on your part to gain some much needed attention trying to make yourself look smart. 

                        I have known parents of children that had no education yet taught their kids to save and not waste money

                        on gambling and  other such things.  Now in your wide range of knowledge explain how that innumeracy

                        played a roll here.  Sometimes, would only seem irrelevant if one was not interested in what people thought.

                        My biggest wish would be that people like you would stop using LP as a launch pad to showcase their

                        arrrogance and ignorance trying to look smart.

                        RL

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                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                          DD

                          I am totally convinced that you not only suffer from innumeracy but illiteracy also.   Be very interested

                          to know your imaginary betting friends name.   Does this person visit your srink with you and if so do

                          you have to pay double?  Use that four grand wisely maybe you can buy a motel or a couple houses

                          your next roll of the dice.  Move out of my parents basement, now thats original but your about 35

                          years to late.  Mr 143, I like that but seems to me you missed the point by a mile.  While many did try

                          and make a big deal way back then I thought it was meaningless and still don't see a connection between

                          my scores and the lottery.  I would also like you to explain in detail how this will help me win the lottery.

                          My math skills are intact and I would bet that they are somewhat beyound what you think you know. 

                          What will you do with the data gathered from this topic because I would be most interested in knowing. 

                          Maybe will you will use it to lobby congress to up the spending on education.  I would rather think that it

                          was a poor attempt on your part to gain some much needed attention trying to make yourself look smart. 

                          I have known parents of children that had no education yet taught their kids to save and not waste money

                          on gambling and  other such things.  Now in your wide range of knowledge explain how that innumeracy

                          played a roll here.  Sometimes, would only seem irrelevant if one was not interested in what people thought.

                          My biggest wish would be that people like you would stop using LP as a launch pad to showcase their

                          arrrogance and ignorance trying to look smart.

                          RL

                          RL:  I'm stepping outside what's my own business and what's yours in saying this, but you don't need to defend yourself to this creature.  Nor to the other one.  Your credentials are already established in the history of your posts.

                          If you're here because the lotteries are a game and because sharing your interests with others who enjoy the game gives you pleasure the joy of it isn't likely to be improved by letting yourself be baited by trolls.

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                            RL:  I'm stepping outside what's my own business and what's yours in saying this, but you don't need to defend yourself to this creature.  Nor to the other one.  Your credentials are already established in the history of your posts.

                            If you're here because the lotteries are a game and because sharing your interests with others who enjoy the game gives you pleasure the joy of it isn't likely to be improved by letting yourself be baited by trolls.

                            I Agree!  Maybe some day I will get to meet some of these people in person.

                            RL

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                            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                              DD

                              I am totally convinced that you not only suffer from innumeracy but illiteracy also.   Be very interested

                              to know your imaginary betting friends name.   Does this person visit your srink with you and if so do

                              you have to pay double?  Use that four grand wisely maybe you can buy a motel or a couple houses

                              your next roll of the dice.  Move out of my parents basement, now thats original but your about 35

                              years to late.  Mr 143, I like that but seems to me you missed the point by a mile.  While many did try

                              and make a big deal way back then I thought it was meaningless and still don't see a connection between

                              my scores and the lottery.  I would also like you to explain in detail how this will help me win the lottery.

                              My math skills are intact and I would bet that they are somewhat beyound what you think you know. 

                              What will you do with the data gathered from this topic because I would be most interested in knowing. 

                              Maybe will you will use it to lobby congress to up the spending on education.  I would rather think that it

                              was a poor attempt on your part to gain some much needed attention trying to make yourself look smart. 

                              I have known parents of children that had no education yet taught their kids to save and not waste money

                              on gambling and  other such things.  Now in your wide range of knowledge explain how that innumeracy

                              played a roll here.  Sometimes, would only seem irrelevant if one was not interested in what people thought.

                              My biggest wish would be that people like you would stop using LP as a launch pad to showcase their

                              arrrogance and ignorance trying to look smart.

                              RL

                              I thought you were seriously examining your beliefs but it appears you can't give up trying to convince others that the general intelligence of a poster lends credence to their dissemination of mathematical fallacies.

                              For many years I had daily contact with researchers of high intelligence, many of whom surely had IQs in excess of that which you believe you possess.  Interestingly, in all those years, I can truthfully say that not one of them ever felt a need to announce to the rest of us what their IQ was.  Not one.