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Posted: September 27, 2012, 10:54 am - IP Logged

I would never play more lines than it took to play every powerball once 'cause I'm not into wheeling.  I haven't  picked my lines yet but I usually play ten and I may use the $4 win from Saturday to play 2 extra ones.

Im not sure why  RJOh?

The 4 if 4 of 28 wheel has already produced a 5+1 prediction win after reducing 98,280 down to 4931 lines. 

Stack showed us how to reduce the full 28 number wheel by almost 95% and still hit 5 of 5.


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    Ronnie

    Just running a test as these numbers have hit 5of5 35 times in the last 736 draws.  I want to see how many

    times they will hit in the next 30 draws.  Nothing special about them with the exception of the past hit rate.

    I was able to find another group that has hit 37 5of5's and may post it also.  Not competing here just a good

    place to keep a count.  Have you posted your methods of selecting your numbers and is it something that is

    consistent draw to draw or do you just study the data and make your best choices, either way I still say it's

    exceptional.  You will need to hit the BB to make a profit but once is enough to put you over the top for a long

    time.  Keep it up

    RL

    RL,

    I'm a little confused because you are saying the "randomly generated numbers"..........

    "have hit 5of5 35 times in the last 736 draws".............

    These two quotes, from two different post seem to be in contradiction with each other........

     

    Did you generate random numbers and then find out their history, or are you selecting a groups based on their performance history??

    Just asking for clarification purposes. Thanks.


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      Before this becomes another QP vs Self pick debate, I'm going to clarify; Ronnie has a 40 times better chance of matching five numbers than a player buying 41 QPs when five of his 28 numbers are drawn. It should be no mystery when less than five numbers are drawn, he has zero chance. A 2 if 2 basically becomes a 3 if 5 wheel when five numbers are drawn because he has at least ten chances to match ten of the three number matches.

      When five of Ronnie's 28 numbers are drawn, the odds of having a five number match are 98,280 to 41 or 2397 to 1. The odds of 41 QPs having a five number match are 3,819,816 to 41 or 93,166 to 1. I don't know what you're trying to compare because there should always be one group of 41 QPs having a five number match for every 3.9 million QPs sold.

      Excellent point Stack, 

      I hate reducing 98.280 lines down to 41, but it is 40 times BETTER ODDS than playing 41 QPs.

      Im still very interested in testing, and eventually playing the 4 if 4 of 28 wheel.

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        Im not sure why  RJOh?

        The 4 if 4 of 28 wheel has already produced a 5+1 prediction win after reducing 98,280 down to 4931 lines. 

        Stack showed us how to reduce the full 28 number wheel by almost 95% and still hit 5 of 5.

        If you're not sure why then why do you accept it as a fact?  Has Stack actually reduced a 28 numbers wheel by 95% and matched 5 of 5?

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: September 27, 2012, 12:37 pm - IP Logged

          I had the same as you for using recent past results so Im going try it also.......

          I will eliminate the fist line and 5 RNG numbers and duplicates till I have 28. I will list them in order so we can check how the first 18 did. RNG, 01 15 19 03 54

           

          Tuesday, August 07, 201230 · 32 · 33 · 42 · 48    + 074$21 Million
          Friday, August 03, 201202 · 10 · 13 · 38 · 46    + 023$13 Million
          Tuesday, July 31, 201205 · 18 · 21 · 29 · 41    + 373$12 Million
          Friday, July 27, 201202 · 03 · 04 · 08 · 43    + 263$52 Million
          Tuesday, July 24, 201205 · 09 · 38 · 46 · 51    + 054$45 Million
          Friday, July 20, 201202 · 44 · 48 · 50 · 52    + 033$37 Million
          Tuesday, July 17, 201201 · 13 · 21 · 49 · 55    + 174$28 Million
          Friday, July 13, 201206 · 07 · 13 · 24 · 46    + 342$21 Million
          Tuesday, July 10, 201203 · 11 · 19 · 23 · 36    + 214$14 Million
          Friday, July 06, 201220 · 23 · 28 · 35 · 39    + 213$12 Million
          Tuesday, July 03, 201203 · 04 · 24 · 36 · 52    + 454$86 Million
          Friday, June 29, 201228 · 34 · 39 · 45 · 53    + 34

           

          02 10 13 38 05 18 21 29 41 04 08 43 09 51 44 50 52 13 49 55 06 07 24 11 23 36 20 28

          Bonus ball 8 

          Do you think we could dream this stuff up   RJOh

          Above is the actual post where I predicted the 5+1 win using 28 numbers, posted in order of appearance.

          Stack reduced the total lines from 98,280 to 4931 by putting the numbers in a 4 if 4 of 28 wheel.

          The 5+1 winning match was on line 1115 of the wheel.


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            eliminations for MM Fri. Sept. 28, 2012

            22 41 48 53 54

            13 39 43 45 50

            04 20 28 36 53

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              Do you think we could dream this stuff up   RJOh

              Above is the actual post where I predicted the 5+1 win using 28 numbers, posted in order of appearance.

              Stack reduced the total lines from 98,280 to 4931 by putting the numbers in a 4 if 4 of 28 wheel.

              The 5+1 winning match was on line 1115 of the wheel.

              I'm not the one who said "I'm not sure why".  My response was to that statement.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: September 27, 2012, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

                I'm not the one who said "I'm not sure why".  My response was to that statement.

                Oh. ok no problem.... I think I figured it out. Thanks.


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                  Posted: September 27, 2012, 3:26 pm - IP Logged

                  Prediction for MM Fri. Sept. 28, 2012

                  03 04 05 07 08 09 11 14 15 16 17 20 21 23 25 31 32 33 36 38 40 42 46 47 49 50 51 55

                  bonus ball  03


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                    Posted: September 27, 2012, 4:05 pm - IP Logged

                    Last 35 drawn numbers in order of appearance, minus 7 elimination numbers:

                    LP 2 if 2 of 28 wheel:

                    Input:  7, 8, 23, 50, 51, 3, 14, 46, 55, 5, 9, 36, 49, 16, 17, 21, 40, 11, 20, 33, 15, 32, 38, 42, 31, 47, 4, 25

                    1. 07-08-42-50-55
                    2. 07-20-23-33-40
                    3. 04-05-07-17-51
                    4. 03-07-11-14-25
                    5. 07-09-16-17-46
                    6. 07-15-31-36-38
                    7. 07-21-32-47-49
                    8. 08-14-23-36-46
                    9. 03-08-31-49-51
                    10. 05-08-16-32-40
                    11. 08-09-11-21-33
                    12. 08-17-20-38-47
                    13. 04-08-15-21-25
                    14. 04-09-23-42-50
                    15. 11-23-32-38-51
                    16. 03-17-21-23-42
                    17. 15-16-23-49-55
                    18. 05-23-25-31-47
                    19. 21-36-40-50-51
                    20. 03-16-33-38-50
                    21. 14-15-17-32-50
                    22. 11-20-46-49-50
                    23. 05-09-11-25-50
                    24. 04-09-31-47-50
                    25. 14-33-47-51-55
                    26. 04-16-25-46-51
                    27. 09-15-20-42-51
                    28. 03-15-40-46-47
                    29. 03-09-32-36-55
                    30. 03-04-05-20-36
                    31. 05-09-14-42-49
                    32. 04-14-38-40-49
                    33. 14-16-20-21-31
                    34. 05-21-38-46-55
                    35. 31-32-33-42-46
                    36. 11-17-31-40-55
                    37. 04-20-25-32-55
                    38. 04-05-11-15-33
                    39. 09-25-38-40-42
                    40. 17-25-33-36-49
                    41. 11-16-36-42-47


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                      Posted: September 27, 2012, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

                      Ok, I think I got it right, and have settled on a method to follow the same way every single time.

                      The last 35 numbers drawn will be used, minus 7 elimination numbers.... Just that simple.

                      This should give me a 5 of 5 hit every 10 draws on average...... Minus the times my eliminations fail.


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                        This brings up a question for   RJOh,

                        Is it mathematically correct that any random 35 numbers would match 5 of 5 around 10% of the time??


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                          The only other idea I have for BETTER ODDS is to randomly re-order the 28 numbers. Giving the LP 2 if 2 of 28 wheel a second chance at hitting the 5 of 5 match within the limited 41 line window of opportunity.

                          Input:  49, 21, 46, 4, 3, 55, 32, 9, 15, 17, 25, 47, 38, 7, 50, 40, 11, 51, 33, 20, 42, 31, 14, 8, 5, 23, 36, 16

                          1. 04-08-15-21-49
                          2. 11-20-33-46-49
                          3. 03-17-36-49-50
                          4. 16-32-49-51-55
                          5. 07-09-25-49-50
                          6. 05-14-42-47-49
                          7. 23-31-38-40-49
                          8. 09-21-32-46-47
                          9. 03-05-21-38-55
                          10. 07-11-17-21-31
                          11. 20-21-25-40-51
                          12. 14-21-23-33-50
                          13. 16-21-36-40-42
                          14. 04-08-25-36-46
                          15. 03-14-31-46-51
                          16. 08-40-46-50-55
                          17. 07-15-38-42-46
                          18. 05-16-17-23-46
                          19. 03-04-11-40-47
                          20. 04-07-14-20-55
                          21. 04-31-32-42-50
                          22. 04-09-33-38-51
                          23. 04-16-17-25-51
                          24. 04-05-23-25-36
                          25. 03-15-20-23-32
                          26. 03-07-09-16-36
                          27. 03-08-25-33-42
                          28. 09-11-23-42-55
                          29. 15-25-31-47-55
                          30. 17-33-36-47-55
                          31. 08-17-25-32-38
                          32. 11-14-32-36-38
                          33. 05-07-32-33-40
                          34. 09-14-15-17-40
                          35. 05-08-09-20-31
                          36. 05-11-15-50-51
                          37. 15-16-31-33-36
                          38. 17-20-36-42-51
                          39. 08-11-14-16-25
                          40. 16-20-38-47-50
                          41. 07-08-23-47-51

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                            Ronnie316

                            I had a little time today so I coded your method, This is for my 5-39 but I started on line 13 of the database and then used

                            the next 800 lines picking the best 34 numbers and then randomly removing 6 to get me to the 28 numbers and then the

                            program check these against the last 12 draws.  Here are the results.  I was hoping I could use this to help me select my

                            groups but I could still wheel the 28 and set the TG filter to control the groups.   I still think more can be done to this.

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                              Posted: September 27, 2012, 8:15 pm - IP Logged

                              Awesome RL,

                              Thank for putting some time into it. I hope it leads to some big wins for you.

                                 
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