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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: September 22, 2012, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

I have 48 as the 10th number since it was drawn on 09/15/12.  I must list the numbers different than you do.

Thanks for noticing  RJOh, If I had left the 48 out, the 53 would have been added.

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    Posted: September 22, 2012, 11:44 pm - IP Logged

    The only thing I see is the results board and count off each number, Sometimes I miss a number (or even add a number, dont know how I can add one thats not even there, lol) But on THIS board I started with "48" and ended with"30"......  You are correct, I used the 48 inadvertently and should have started with the "4"


    Wednesday, September 19, 2012
    01 · 05 · 08 · 39 · 50    23$149 Million
    Saturday, September 15, 201203 · 20 · 26 · 43 · 48    01$125 Million
    Wednesday, September 12, 201224 · 33 · 36 · 48 · 56    06$110 Million
    Saturday, September 08, 201206 · 20 · 34 · 44 · 48    29$100 Million
    Wednesday, September 05, 201204 · 19 · 26 · 42 · 51    29$90 Million
    Saturday, September 01, 201208 · 11 · 21 · 44 · 49    22$80 Million
    Wednesday, August 29, 201225 · 28 · 49 · 54 · 56    28$70 Million
    Saturday, August 25, 201201 · 06 · 07 · 20 · 49    23$60 Million
    Wednesday, August 22, 201222 · 29 · 31 · 47 · 55    19$50 Million
    Saturday, August 18, 201214 · 26 · 41 · 55 · 59    01$40 Million
    Wednesday, August 15, 201206 · 27 · 46 · 51 · 56    21$337 Million
    Saturday, August 11, 201204 · 13 · 39 · 46 · 51    01$253 Million
    Wednesday, August 08, 201203 · 07 · 11 · 15 · 28    12$212 Million
    Saturday, August 04, 201219 · 30 · 48 · 53 · 55    18

    Sounds like you're doing all your counting and figuring in your head.  I thought you would at least have a pencil and paper system if not software to make checking your figures easier.

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      Posted: September 23, 2012, 11:30 am - IP Logged

      This post by Stack also is from page 14............. Here he talks about "8 straight 5+0 hits"

      I took the logical approach in looking for groups that hit more than the 1 in 39 probability and found a group that had eight straight 5 + 0 hits. The same group had ten matches in 50 drawings. Groups of 25 or less numbers are guaranteed to always have five consecutive 5 + 0 matches and because numbers repeat, the last six drawings should have 28 or less numbers in about 75% of the drawings. Even though 40 numbers are drawn in eight consecutive drawings, you won't usually find 40 different numbers because of repeats and I happened to find where eight drawings used only 28 different numbers.

      The method I use for tracking is to place all the numbers into an order starting from the most recently drawn to the number that is the longest out; the first 20 numbers are the numbers drawn in the last four or five drawings. The probability of the first 28 numbers matching 5 + 0 is exactly the same as any group of 28 numbers and since I haven't used this method for tracking MM from the first drawing, I don't know if that group beats probability and if it does, by how much.

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        Posted: September 23, 2012, 1:11 pm - IP Logged

        I took the logical approach in looking for groups that hit more than the 1 in 39 probability and found a group that had eight straight 5 + 0 hits. The same group had ten matches in 50 drawings. Groups of 25 or less numbers are guaranteed to always have five consecutive 5 + 0 matches and because numbers repeat, the last six drawings should have 28 or less numbers in about 75% of the drawings. Even though 40 numbers are drawn in eight consecutive drawings, you won't usually find 40 different numbers because of repeats and I happened to find where eight drawings used only 28 different numbers.

        The method I use for tracking is to place all the numbers into an order starting from the most recently drawn to the number that is the longest out; the first 20 numbers are the numbers drawn in the last four or five drawings. The probability of the first 28 numbers matching 5 + 0 is exactly the same as any group of 28 numbers and since I haven't used this method for tracking MM from the first drawing, I don't know if that group beats probability and if it does, by how much.

        You have the information that Ronnie is looking for but gathering it the way you suggest would also show the 28 numbers: 03 05 09 11 13 14 15 16 17 20 21 22 31 32 33 36 38 39 40 41 42 46 47 48 49 51 53 55 covered the last seven MegaMillions drawings too.  This group has also matched 5 eighteen other times too.

        09/21/12 - 03 13 14 46 55 +34
        09/18/12 - 05 09 22 36 49 +36
        09/14/12 - 16 17 21 40 51 +20
        09/11/12 - 05 11 20 33 36 +11
        09/07/12 - 15 32 38 42 46 +31
        09/04/12 - 16 32 39 41 53 +16
        08/31/12 - 31 40 41 47 48 +45
        07/24/12 - 05 09 38 46 51 +05
        04/13/12 - 09 14 17 36 42 +33
        01/17/12 - 03 15 31 36 53 +27
        05/13/11 - 03 33 39 47 53 +09
        04/30/10 - 14 20 41 47 53 +40
        02/12/10 - 14 16 17 33 47 +23
        04/24/09 - 09 20 21 48 49 +07
        04/03/09 - 16 22 38 39 48 +42
        03/31/09 - 14 39 47 48 53 +29
        03/20/09 - 15 16 20 39 40 +26
        08/05/08 - 09 21 36 38 55 +13
        07/11/08 - 05 14 16 39 51 +34
        05/30/08 - 39 40 47 53 55 +32
        11/09/07 - 11 33 41 42 46 +21
        02/09/07 - 32 39 46 48 49 +41
        08/11/06 - 14 16 38 40 49 +29
        07/12/05 - 05 17 32 39 53 +36

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          Posted: September 23, 2012, 1:41 pm - IP Logged

          You have the information that Ronnie is looking for but gathering it the way you suggest would also show the 28 numbers: 03 05 09 11 13 14 15 16 17 20 21 22 31 32 33 36 38 39 40 41 42 46 47 48 49 51 53 55 covered the last seven MegaMillions drawings too.  This group has also matched 5 eighteen other times too.

          09/21/12 - 03 13 14 46 55 +34
          09/18/12 - 05 09 22 36 49 +36
          09/14/12 - 16 17 21 40 51 +20
          09/11/12 - 05 11 20 33 36 +11
          09/07/12 - 15 32 38 42 46 +31
          09/04/12 - 16 32 39 41 53 +16
          08/31/12 - 31 40 41 47 48 +45
          07/24/12 - 05 09 38 46 51 +05
          04/13/12 - 09 14 17 36 42 +33
          01/17/12 - 03 15 31 36 53 +27
          05/13/11 - 03 33 39 47 53 +09
          04/30/10 - 14 20 41 47 53 +40
          02/12/10 - 14 16 17 33 47 +23
          04/24/09 - 09 20 21 48 49 +07
          04/03/09 - 16 22 38 39 48 +42
          03/31/09 - 14 39 47 48 53 +29
          03/20/09 - 15 16 20 39 40 +26
          08/05/08 - 09 21 36 38 55 +13
          07/11/08 - 05 14 16 39 51 +34
          05/30/08 - 39 40 47 53 55 +32
          11/09/07 - 11 33 41 42 46 +21
          02/09/07 - 32 39 46 48 49 +41
          08/11/06 - 14 16 38 40 49 +29
          07/12/05 - 05 17 32 39 53 +36

          *Note: In all drawings since the last matrix change, 3.4% of them have five numbers that were among the previous 28 drawn numbers.

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            Posted: September 23, 2012, 5:36 pm - IP Logged

            *Note: In all drawings since the last matrix change, 3.4% of them have five numbers that were among the previous 28 drawn numbers.

            Very interesting  RJOh,

            If any random set of 28 has a 2.6 chance of hitting 5 of 5, and the previous 28 drawn numbers has a 3.4 chance of hitting 5 of 5.............. 

            I think you just made a case that:

            SOME NUMBER COMBINATIONS HAVE BETTER ODDS.

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              Posted: September 23, 2012, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

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                Posted: September 23, 2012, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

                Very interesting  RJOh,

                If any random set of 28 has a 2.6 chance of hitting 5 of 5, and the previous 28 drawn numbers has a 3.4 chance of hitting 5 of 5.............. 

                I think you just made a case that:

                SOME NUMBER COMBINATIONS HAVE BETTER ODDS.

                While that happened in MM 5/56 matrix for the last 757 drawings the same can't be said about PB 5/59 matrix for its last 388 drawings so that figure may be unique for only that period of time for MM only.

                The question is "Has anyone ever used that slight advantage to win big?".  With PB getting at $200M+, I'm looking for something similar about it.

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                  Posted: September 24, 2012, 10:26 am - IP Logged

                  While that happened in MM 5/56 matrix for the last 757 drawings the same can't be said about PB 5/59 matrix for its last 388 drawings so that figure may be unique for only that period of time for MM only.

                  The question is "Has anyone ever used that slight advantage to win big?".  With PB getting at $200M+, I'm looking for something similar about it.

                  Your speculating and dreaming again  RJOh.........

                  The PB game has 25% more combinations to cover, so if you want the same statistical advantage you will need to play a group of 35 numbers instead of a group of 28 numbers. 

                  Good luck on playing those.

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                    Your speculating and dreaming again  RJOh.........

                    The PB game has 25% more combinations to cover, so if you want the same statistical advantage you will need to play a group of 35 numbers instead of a group of 28 numbers. 

                    Good luck on playing those.

                    If 28 was picked because it was half of the MM number pool, why not pick 30 for half of PB number pool?

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                      Posted: September 24, 2012, 11:36 am - IP Logged

                      If 28 was picked because it was half of the MM number pool, why not pick 30 for half of PB number pool?

                      True, a 30 number set should more than cover the same 2.6 % of the combinations.


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                        Posted: September 24, 2012, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

                        Eliminations for MM Tue. Sept. 25, 2012

                        18 27 45 47 53

                        29 33 35 52 53

                        01 05 13 30 39


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                          Posted: September 24, 2012, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

                          Numbers in play for MM Tue. Sept. 25, 2012

                          03 04 09 11 14 15 16 17 20 21 22 23 25 31 32 34 36 38 40 41 42 45 46 48 49 50 51 55

                          bonus ball   03

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                            Posted: September 25, 2012, 9:30 am - IP Logged

                            True, a 30 number set should more than cover the same 2.6 % of the combinations.

                            How can you tell if your theory works or not if your methods aren't consistence?

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                              Posted: September 25, 2012, 10:00 am - IP Logged

                              How can you tell if your theory works or not if your methods aren't consistence?

                              When Ronnie316 hits the Jackpot this evening, then his theories and methods will be proven correct.   Yes Nod

                                 
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