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Numbers in play for MM Fri. Sept. 21, 2012

04 05 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 20 21 22 24 25 31 32 35 38 41 42 45 47 48 49 50 51 53 55

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    The 2 if 2 of 28 played in random order.

    Input:  13, 53, 8, 49, 35, 17, 50, 45, 11, 16, 20, 21, 5, 38, 25, 51, 15, 32, 42, 31, 41, 9, 47, 55, 24, 22, 4, 48

    1. 11-13-49-53-55
    2. 08-13-15-31-42
    3. 04-13-16-25-35
    4. 13-17-32-48-50
    5. 13-20-25-38-45
    6. 13-21-24-41-47
    7. 05-09-13-22-51
    8. 08-21-45-50-53
    9. 05-17-24-35-53
    10. 09-15-16-38-53
    11. 20-31-32-51-53
    12. 22-25-42-47-53
    13. 04-41-48-51-53
    14. 04-08-20-49-55
    15. 08-09-32-35-47
    16. 08-17-25-51-55
    17. 05-08-11-38-41
    18. 08-16-22-24-48
    19. 15-21-35-49-51
    20. 17-31-38-47-49
    21. 09-25-41-49-50
    22. 05-32-42-45-49
    23. 16-20-32-48-49
    24. 04-20-22-24-49
    25. 11-22-31-35-50
    26. 04-35-38-45-48
    27. 20-35-41-42-55
    28. 15-17-22-41-45
    29. 09-11-17-20-21
    30. 04-16-17-21-42
    31. 05-16-20-50-55
    32. 04-05-15-47-50
    33. 24-38-42-50-51
    34. 11-16-45-47-51
    35. 09-24-31-45-55
    36. 11-15-24-25-32
    37. 04-09-11-42-48
    38. 04-16-31-32-41
    39. 15-20-47-48-55
    40. 05-21-25-31-48
    41. 21-22-32-38-55

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      The only thing I have for PB tonight......

      Input:  55, 15, 51, 14, 46, 20, 28, 44, 36, 6, 11, 47

      1. 14-15-46-51-55
      2. 14-28-36-44-55
      3. 06-11-20-47-55
      4. 06-14-15-28-46
      5. 06-15-20-44-46
      6. 11-15-36-46-47
      7. 06-20-28-36-51
      8. 11-28-44-47-51
      9. 11-14-20-44-47

      I'm giving these 10 lines a try for PB tonight.  I posted them on the prediction board, that way I can just check it to see if I have a winner rather than scanning them at the store.Wink

      10 22 30 55 57 +28
      04 18 31 40 56 +04
      07 21 28 55 57 +29
      15 18 28 43 57 +03
      04 22 30 55 59 +26
      15 27 28 55 59 +06
      04 21 23 43 56 +13
      04 27 31 37 56 +01
      03 30 34 37 57 +21
      16 33 38 55 59 +07

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
         
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        I'm giving these 10 lines a try for PB tonight.  I posted them on the prediction board, that way I can just check it to see if I have a winner rather than scanning them at the store.Wink

        10 22 30 55 57 +28
        04 18 31 40 56 +04
        07 21 28 55 57 +29
        15 18 28 43 57 +03
        04 22 30 55 59 +26
        15 27 28 55 59 +06
        04 21 23 43 56 +13
        04 27 31 37 56 +01
        03 30 34 37 57 +21
        16 33 38 55 59 +07

        I checked the prediction board for the 19th and there were 10 PB winners who matched 0+1 or 1+1 and my name wasn't among them, so no need for me to get my tickets scanned tomorrow, I didn't win anything.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
           
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          This is why I dont play PB. On a good day the winning numbers are 15 draws deep or around 44 numbers.


          Wednesday, September 19, 2012
          01 · 05 · 08 · 39 · 50    23$149 Million
          Saturday, September 15, 201203 · 20 · 26 · 43 · 48    01$125 Million
          Wednesday, September 12, 201224 · 33 · 36 · 48 · 56    06$110 Million
          Saturday, September 08, 201206 · 20 · 34 · 44 · 48    29$100 Million
          Wednesday, September 05, 201204 · 19 · 26 · 42 · 51    29$90 Million
          Saturday, September 01, 201208 · 11 · 21 · 44 · 49    22$80 Million
          Wednesday, August 29, 201225 · 28 · 49 · 54 · 56    28$70 Million
          Saturday, August 25, 201201 · 06 · 07 · 20 · 49    23$60 Million
          Wednesday, August 22, 201222 · 29 · 31 · 47 · 55    19$50 Million
          Saturday, August 18, 201214 · 26 · 41 · 55 · 59    01$40 Million
          Wednesday, August 15, 201206 · 27 · 46 · 51 · 56    21$337 Million
          Saturday, August 11, 201204 · 13 · 39 · 46 · 51    01$253 Million
          Wednesday, August 08, 201203 · 07 · 11 · 15 · 28    12$212 Million
          Saturday, August 04, 201219 · 30 · 48 · 53 · 55    18$181 Million
          Wednesday, August 01, 201203 · 16 · 48 · 56 · 58    04$158 Million
          Saturday, July 28, 201205 · 06 · 13 · 36 · 50    13

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            I checked the prediction board for the 19th and there were 10 PB winners who matched 0+1 or 1+1 and my name wasn't among them, so no need for me to get my tickets scanned tomorrow, I didn't win anything.

            I had zero numbers playing a group of 12, so I wont be scanning mine either.

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              I had zero numbers playing a group of 12, so I wont be scanning mine either.

              Ronnie

              Below is a pic of an older version of DM, I take it that when you talk about how deep a the numbers are you

              are talking about how many past games hold the winning set for the next draw.  To get your 28 numbers do

              you just take them from so many of the last draws or do you kind of pick and choose based on some logic or

              other data.  I am very much interested.  What I do sometimes is put the numbers from the last 3  into the DM

              wheel and set the min/max to 1/2 numbers that can come from these 15 numbers in the next draw.  Works

              very well most games.

              RL

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                Congratulation on the win. Welcome to the 5+1 club.

                Hey ronnie, how about some enthusiasm!!!!

                Congratulations on the win!!!Hurray!

                 

                WELCOME TO THE 5+1 CLUB!!!  Smash Banana

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                  This is why I dont play PB. On a good day the winning numbers are 15 draws deep or around 44 numbers.


                  Wednesday, September 19, 2012
                  01 · 05 · 08 · 39 · 50    23$149 Million
                  Saturday, September 15, 201203 · 20 · 26 · 43 · 48    01$125 Million
                  Wednesday, September 12, 201224 · 33 · 36 · 48 · 56    06$110 Million
                  Saturday, September 08, 201206 · 20 · 34 · 44 · 48    29$100 Million
                  Wednesday, September 05, 201204 · 19 · 26 · 42 · 51    29$90 Million
                  Saturday, September 01, 201208 · 11 · 21 · 44 · 49    22$80 Million
                  Wednesday, August 29, 201225 · 28 · 49 · 54 · 56    28$70 Million
                  Saturday, August 25, 201201 · 06 · 07 · 20 · 49    23$60 Million
                  Wednesday, August 22, 201222 · 29 · 31 · 47 · 55    19$50 Million
                  Saturday, August 18, 201214 · 26 · 41 · 55 · 59    01$40 Million
                  Wednesday, August 15, 201206 · 27 · 46 · 51 · 56    21$337 Million
                  Saturday, August 11, 201204 · 13 · 39 · 46 · 51    01$253 Million
                  Wednesday, August 08, 201203 · 07 · 11 · 15 · 28    12$212 Million
                  Saturday, August 04, 201219 · 30 · 48 · 53 · 55    18$181 Million
                  Wednesday, August 01, 201203 · 16 · 48 · 56 · 58    04$158 Million
                  Saturday, July 28, 201205 · 06 · 13 · 36 · 50    13

                  PowerBall may go deep but it often starts deep, often you can skip the first 15 numbers and still cover all the winners.

                  09/19/12 1-17 2-24 3-37 4-43 5-44
                  09/15/12 1- 4 2- 7 3-12 4-36 5-58
                  09/12/12 1- 5 2-18 3-40 4-53 5-56
                  09/08/12 1- 9 2-16 3-18 4-34 5-49
                  09/05/12 1-20 2-25 3-26 4-31 5-59
                  09/01/12 1- 3 2-26 3-45 4-49 5-56
                  08/29/12 1- 5 2-18 3-25 4-38 5-58
                  08/25/12 1-10 2-19 3-37 4-42 5-46
                  08/22/12 1- 4 2-31 3-39 4-41 5-59
                  08/18/12 1-18 2-24 3-39 4-40 5-53
                  08/15/12 1- 4 2- 5 3-17 4-20 5-46
                  08/11/12 1-16 2-22 3-30 4-36 5-53
                  08/08/12 1- 6 2-34 3-35 4-41 5-54
                  08/04/12 1- 3 2-27 3-31 4-39 5-48
                  08/01/12 1- 6 2-14 3-20 4-36 5-48
                  07/28/12 1-11 2-20 3-31 4-49 5-56
                  07/25/12 1- 3 2-15 3-20 4-24 5-26
                  07/21/12 1-22 2-43 3-53 4-55 5-59
                  07/18/12 1- 6 2-21 3-32 4-56 5-59
                  07/14/12 1-22 2-30 3-42 4-57 5-58
                  07/11/12 1- 2 2-31 3-39 4-46 5-55
                  07/07/12 1- 4 2-17 3-21 4-33 5-54
                  07/04/12 1-17 2-20 3-28 4-39 5-49
                  06/30/12 1- 8 2- 9 3-18 4-21 5-45
                  06/27/12 1-34 2-39 3-47 4-49 5-50
                  06/23/12 1-25 2-29 3-33 4-38 5-42
                  06/20/12 1- 9 2-13 3-19 4-20 5-38
                  06/16/12 1- 3 2-25 3-49 4-50 5-58
                  06/13/12 1- 5 2- 8 3-12 4-18 5-22
                  06/09/12 1-10 2-13 3-42 4-47 5-59
                  06/06/12 1-13 2-33 3-47 4-51 5-59
                  06/02/12 1- 1 2- 2 3-38 4-49 5-51
                  05/30/12 1-18 2-19 3-24 4-25 5-55
                  05/26/12 1- 5 2- 7 3-39 4-40 5-54
                  05/23/12 1- 7 2-13 3-23 4-31 5-54
                  05/19/12 1- 8 2-20 3-34 4-36 5-45
                  05/16/12 1- 7 2-28 3-52 4-54 5-55
                  05/12/12 1-19 2-35 3-45 4-48 5-53
                  05/09/12 1- 6 2-38 3-42 4-47 5-48
                  05/05/12 1-17 2-29 3-47 4-48 5-58
                  05/02/12 1-12 2-32 3-37 4-48 5-52
                  04/28/12 1-12 2-32 3-49 4-53 5-55
                  04/25/12 1-29 2-34 3-41 4-49 5-52
                  04/21/12 1- 1 2-12 3-35 4-41 5-43
                  04/18/12 1-13 2-18 3-34 4-41 5-58
                  04/14/12 1- 1 2-12 3-16 4-23 5-48
                  04/11/12 1-16 2-22 3-34 4-37 5-48
                  04/07/12 1- 6 2-28 3-29 4-31 5-45
                  04/04/12 1-10 2-20 3-28 4-45 5-47
                  03/31/12 1- 5 2-16 3-22 4-33 5-48
                  03/28/12 1-11 2-14 3-24 4-33 5-37
                  03/24/12 1-10 2-19 3-21 4-38 5-41
                  03/21/12 1- 4 2-25 3-33 4-34 5-41
                  03/17/12 1- 7 2-16 3-18 4-55 5-58
                  03/14/12 1- 5 2- 9 3-14 4-30 5-39
                  03/10/12 1-20 2-38 3-40 4-50 5-53
                  03/07/12 1- 3 2- 4 3-24 4-45 5-46
                  03/03/12 1-28 2-36 3-37 4-40 5-51
                  02/29/12 1- 2 2-11 3-19 4-33 5-58
                  02/25/12 1-11 2-29 3-36 4-57 5-59
                  02/22/12 1-14 2-16 3-17 4-43 5-56
                  02/18/12 1- 5 2-11 3-16 4-22 5-34
                  02/15/12 1- 4 2-15 3-28 4-53 5-58
                  02/11/12 1-28 2-40 3-46 4-48 5-53
                  02/08/12 1- 8 2-17 3-28 4-31 5-39
                  02/04/12 1-17 2-19 3-31 4-39 5-43
                  02/01/12 1- 5 2-17 3-36 4-48 5-53
                  01/28/12 1-18 2-19 3-36 4-38 5-41
                  01/25/12 1- 7 2-16 3-17 4-25 5-40
                  01/21/12 1- 4 2-13 3-17 4-42 5-50
                  01/18/12 1- 8 2-17 3-40 4-41 5-56
                  01/14/12 1- 9 2-20 3-22 4-25 5-47
                  01/11/12 1- 8 2-10 3-18 4-33 5-59
                  01/07/12 1- 1 2-27 3-32 4-34 5-52
                  01/04/12 1- 7 2-24 3-36 4-37 5-53
                  12/31/11 1-15 2-28 3-29 4-42 5-49
                  12/28/11 1- 2 2-21 3-29 4-46 5-51
                  12/24/11 1- 8 2-13 3-20 4-34 5-37
                  12/21/11 1- 1 2-46 3-50 4-57 5-58
                  12/17/11 1-10 2-31 3-32 4-35 5-57
                  12/14/11 1-15 2-33 3-36 4-43 5-45
                  12/10/11 1- 8 2-18 3-21 4-48 5-55
                  12/07/11 1-11 2-13 3-30 4-32 5-37
                  12/03/11 1- 9 2-25 3-27 4-29 5-35
                  11/30/11 1- 8 2-23 3-29 4-43 5-52
                  11/26/11 1-13 2-31 3-42 4-43 5-45
                  11/23/11 1- 5 2-11 3-12 4-16 5-18
                  11/19/11 1-23 2-31 3-54 4-56 5-57
                  11/16/11 1- 4 2-12 3-47 4-52 5-53
                  11/12/11 1- 2 2-17 3-18 4-42 5-58
                  11/09/11 1-22 2-24 3-26 4-47 5-52
                  11/05/11 1- 4 2- 8 3-27 4-51 5-59
                  11/02/11 1- 9 2-24 3-31 4-57 5-58
                  10/29/11 1-11 2-31 3-52 4-54 5-57
                  10/26/11 1-24 2-32 3-39 4-52 5-55
                  10/22/11 1- 5 2-12 3-14 4-23 5-53
                  10/19/11 1-11 2-27 3-32 4-42 5-59
                  10/15/11 1- 1 2- 4 3-33 4-50 5-51
                  10/12/11 1- 8 2-12 3-13 4-21 5-58
                  10/08/11 1- 9 2-15 3-34 4-51 5-54

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
                     
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                    RJOh

                    Nice chart, as I see it if one filtered out the last 3 draws then they would have a much better chance

                    at a 5of5 most draws and even on the days it misses a 4of4 would still be in the mix, not always but

                    enough to make this worth doing.  This is something that the smaller games don't really follow. 

                    Very good information, thanks.

                     

                    RL

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                      Thanks RL. its very simplistic. I use ALL of the first 35 numbers in the previous results and then eliminate 7 of the numbers to come up with a group of 28.


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                        If you process the numbers in the past results below you will find a total of 35 numbers even though it contains 10 past draws........ (dont count Tue. because it wasnt there at the time of use)


                        Tuesday, September 18, 2012
                        05 · 09 · 22 · 36 · 49    363$15 Million
                        Friday, September 14, 201216 · 17 · 21 · 40 · 51    204$12 Million
                        Tuesday, September 11, 201205 · 11 · 20 · 33 · 36    113$120 Million
                        Friday, September 07, 201215 · 32 · 38 · 42 · 46    314$105 Million
                        Tuesday, September 04, 201216 · 32 · 39 · 41 · 53    163$93 Million
                        Friday, August 31, 201231 · 40 · 41 · 47 · 48    453$83 Million
                        Tuesday, August 28, 201204 · 09 · 40 · 45 · 50    394$73 Million
                        Friday, August 24, 201225 · 34 · 45 · 46 · 49    342$65 Million
                        Tuesday, August 21, 201205 · 13 · 20 · 23 · 33    302$55 Million
                        Friday, August 17, 201208 · 20 · 24 · 35 · 56    243$45 Million
                        Tuesday, August 14, 201215 · 23 · 34 · 39 · 55    32

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                           Once the winners are contained in 28 numbers.............. playing the 2 if 2 wheel produces a 1 in 2000 chance (41 lines) and playing the the 4 if 4 wheel (4931 lines) produces a mind blowing 1 in 4 chance.


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                            Using the past 10 draws, the 35 numbers (in order) would look like THIS...........

                            16 17 21 40 51 5 11 20 33 36 15 32 38 42 46 39 41 53 31 47 48 04 09 45 50 25 34 49 13 23 8 24 35 56 55

                             

                            Tuesday, September 18, 201205 · 09 · 22 · 36 · 49    363$15 Million
                            Friday, September 14, 201216 · 17 · 21 · 40 · 51    204$12 Million
                            Tuesday, September 11, 201205 · 11 · 20 · 33 · 36    113$120 Million
                            Friday, September 07, 201215 · 32 · 38 · 42 · 46    314$105 Million
                            Tuesday, September 04, 201216 · 32 · 39 · 41 · 53    163$93 Million
                            Friday, August 31, 201231 · 40 · 41 · 47 · 48    453$83 Million
                            Tuesday, August 28, 201204 · 09 · 40 · 45 · 50    394$73 Million
                            Friday, August 24, 201225 · 34 · 45 · 46 · 49    342$65 Million
                            Tuesday, August 21, 201205 · 13 · 20 · 23 · 33    302$55 Million
                            Friday, August 17, 201208 · 20 · 24 · 35 · 56    243$45 Million
                            Tuesday, August 14, 201215 · 23 · 34 · 39 · 55    32

                             

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                              ronnie

                              I will post a update for my DM program and in it is a old program called Multi-F.  This filter has 40 stages

                              and they work like this.  The first stage uses draws 1-2-3-4-5 then second stage uses 2-3-4-5-6 and the

                              third stage uses 3-4-5-6-7 and so on and on.  Each stage has a HI/Low range where you can adjust how

                              many numbers you want used from each stage.  If you first R-click the R-F-W ie "run full wheel" option then

                              it will generate all the combinations and place them in the temp file.  Next run the Multi-f program under

                              MENU-2 and it will reduce the sets.  If enough stages are set correctly then it is possible to reduce the total

                              down to 1 line but it does not take all that many to reach a playable amount.  The number of draws for each

                              stage can also be adjusted up to 9 so if set to 9 then the first stage would use last 9.  This is based on a

                              old filter I called last-X and winsum came up with the idea to do the same thing over and over again so it

                              was developed into the multi stage filter.  It's not the same as what you are using here but does about the

                              same thing in the end.   The sets in the temp file are used in the reduction process and this can be used to

                              reduce a regular setup.  I should have the updates in place sometime this afternoon.  I converted this code

                              from 16 bit so the interface is not that great but I will be building a new version sometime soon and will include

                              a full wheel so it can be used as a stand alone if needed.

                              RL

                              I I attached a pic that shows the multi-f filter.

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