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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: January 4, 2013, 12:13 pm - IP Logged

I can Ronnie.  Although I dont really consider myself a GH'er, because I discovered my system independent from GH influence.  But I admire her tenacity in her goal to understand the lottery.  I just happend to buy the book, and the program after I was already winning, and I still believe it was a good investment.  If you want to do a simulation thats fine, but I would prefer an easier game.

 I cant speak for others.  True GH'ers dont really exist anymore, or rather they aren't being created like they used to because as I mentioned before GH is no longer on the circuit.  She used to do radio, tv, seminars.  Her knowledge is dying.  Although her book was a bestseller on Amazon, there is no way to ask her serious question.  If you want to find out then you are going to have to do it yourself, and many people aren't willing to do that.  Heck many people aren't even willing to find an interesting avatar.

I would be very curious to know what the standard deviation in the LFF is as a function of numbers within the matrix.

But as I said before that is a question for a more mathy person such as RJ, Stack or Serge, and maybe Todd.

Not for me and not for Boney.

Now thats something tangible that math could be used for.

"I would be very curious to know what the standard deviation in the LFF is as a function of numbers within the matrix."

"If you want to find out then you are going to have to do it yourself, and many people aren't willing to do that."

You should read what you're writing and take your own advice.

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    "Gail Howard Theory is vital to winning a jackpot because she gives good examples of what types of patterns a player needs to look for in order to "get better odds"

    Why is it when Ms. Howard says it's possible "to get better odds" because "she gives good examples" you say it's written in stone, but when I say because of a statistical fact thousands of groups of 28 will have five consecutive five number matches in every drawing, you call it a "silly argument"?

    "But her wealth is derived mainly in my opinion, in the marketing of wheels, and wheeling systems and wheeling programs."

    Until Robert Serotic published better wheels and helped to develop the first lottery PC program for Windows 3.1. I'm not knocking Gail or her logic of players wheeling their favorite numbers to get better payoffs when their number are drawn, but what Jimmy doesn't understand and you should, is her  methods, Serotic's, LP's, or anyone else's wheels are based on "better ways for players who are now playing the same game". It's obvious Howard's programs today are more sophisticated than "enter your favorite numbers left to right from most favored to least favored using her patented template", but majority of her market is still players that already are playing the game.

    Hopefully everyone knows 25 numbers is less than 28 numbers, but you want to debate the impossibility of using it to get better odds even though Gail Howard says the same thing. Are you saying we're silly because "she gives good examples"?

    Stack47,

    Why is it when Ms. Howard says it's possible "to get better odds" because "she gives good examples" you say it's written in stone, but when I say because of a  statistical fact thousands of groups of 28 will have five consecutive five number matches in every drawing, you call it a "silly argument"?

    It's silly because it neglects the additional facts that you must multiply your [higher] probability of winning based on a reduced field of 28 numbers TIMES the probability of selecting the CORRECT set of 28 and TIMES the reciprocal of the number of tickets you would purchase.

    --Jimmy4164

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      Stack47,

      Why is it when Ms. Howard says it's possible "to get better odds" because "she gives good examples" you say it's written in stone, but when I say because of a  statistical fact thousands of groups of 28 will have five consecutive five number matches in every drawing, you call it a "silly argument"?

      It's silly because it neglects the additional facts that you must multiply your [higher] probability of winning based on a reduced field of 28 numbers TIMES the probability of selecting the CORRECT set of 28 and TIMES the reciprocal of the number of tickets you would purchase.

      --Jimmy4164

      Hit the nail on the head.

       

      Just b/c you, Stack, are listing what I will assume is a true fact regarding grouping up numbers - does not mean that the fact you are listing is relevant in the pursuit of better odds.


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        Hit the nail on the head.

         

        Just b/c you, Stack, are listing what I will assume is a true fact regarding grouping up numbers - does not mean that the fact you are listing is relevant in the pursuit of better odds.

        This is stating to be bizarre Boney.

        If a person gets BETTER ODDS on a consistent basis does that count for anything with you??


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          Posted: January 4, 2013, 6:55 pm - IP Logged

          And you Jimmy, in a short term trial all players posted better than average wins (except Boney) does that mean anything at all to you.........?????????

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            I not only consider PB and MM big games but also Ohio's Classic Lotto which is a 6/49 game which has matched 1-3 of the numbers in the previous drawing 56% of its 932 drawings.

            The math says the probability of a number not repeating from the last draw for a 6/49 game is 44.74%.  So the probability of a number repeating from the previous draw is 100 - 44.74 or 55.26% which pretty much aligns up with your observed results of 56%.

            Its not apples to oranges using a 6/49 game because you have less total white balls and you have 6 numbers versus 5.  With less total white balls and more balls per draw then the odds of a number repeating from the previous draw go up.

            Jimmy

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              What he basically said, in overly complex terms is "if you pick lots of huge groups of numbers, some will go on streaks."  Is that really suprising?  That out of the huge amounts of possibile combinations of 28 numbers will appear to be on a streak?  That's not odd, that's expected.  And it means nothing in terms of your picks winning in the future.


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                To find better odds, you have to define what makes better odds. Why is one group of numbers better than another?

                You have to use empirical data to answer this question.  You have to find the ebb and flow within the data set to create a model.

                That which happens most often is more likely to happen again.

                Thus to find parameters that occurmore often will by default give you better odds.

                Stack is declaring a statement based on empirical data, but the more important question is why is this true and what are the more important variables to track and quantify that will lead this to be true and predictable trend in the long term.

                Ronnie has already stated he tracks Odd/Even occurrence. 

                And he has been quite successful.  So this whole debate is meaningless.

                What is important is building on what has already been proven to be true, and to try to find the inner workings of random.

                Not TEARING it DOWN.

                Granted all odd/even are not the meat and potatos of the bell curve distribution, but it doesn't mean it doesn't kick some serious ass.


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                  So is it ok with you to take advantage of a "streak" and win the lottery without regard for the future?


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                    "I would be very curious to know what the standard deviation in the LFF is as a function of numbers within the matrix."

                    "If you want to find out then you are going to have to do it yourself, and many people aren't willing to do that."

                    You should read what you're writing and take your own advice.

                    You should read what you're writing and take your own advice.

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                      Set of 12 eliminations for MM. Fri. Jan. 4, 2013.

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                        So is it ok with you to take advantage of a "streak" and win the lottery without regard for the future?

                        I am cool with hit but some people on this thread seem to Disapprove You would think these people work for MUSL.

                        And sometimes its not even  a streak.  Its just more akin to a one in 1 in a 100 chance at a haymaker blow.

                        Because the tails of the bell curve dont really streak per se, its more of pop goes the weasel kind of deal" Here I am!,hope you were paying attention! see you next year!"

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                          To find better odds, you have to define what makes better odds. Why is one group of numbers better than another?

                          You have to use empirical data to answer this question.  You have to find the ebb and flow within the data set to create a model.

                          That which happens most often is more likely to happen again.

                          Thus to find parameters that occurmore often will by default give you better odds.

                          Stack is declaring a statement based on empirical data, but the more important question is why is this true and what are the more important variables to track and quantify that will lead this to be true and predictable trend in the long term.

                          Ronnie has already stated he tracks Odd/Even occurrence. 

                          And he has been quite successful.  So this whole debate is meaningless.

                          What is important is building on what has already been proven to be true, and to try to find the inner workings of random.

                          Not TEARING it DOWN.

                          Granted all odd/even are not the meat and potatos of the bell curve distribution, but it doesn't mean it doesn't kick some serious ass.

                          LB ,

                              You're right its the Ebb and Flow you must Find . That why you Must use Wave Form Analysis and Regression Analysis to create the Right Data for Future game play .

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                            I am cool with hit but some people on this thread seem to Disapprove You would think these people work for MUSL.

                            And sometimes its not even  a streak.  Its just more akin to a one in 1 in a 100 chance at a haymaker blow.

                            Because the tails of the bell curve dont really streak per se, its more of pop goes the weasel kind of deal" Here I am!,hope you were paying attention! see you next year!"

                            Exactly, the whole point here is demonstating a winning selection of numbers.


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                              Set of 28 for MM. Fri. Jan. 4, 2013.

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