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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: August 22, 2012, 10:50 am - IP Logged

It is indeed a great honor to be among the super, superior, successful, selective, elite core group of 5+0 winners.  Patriot

That's one for real, and two using your LP member approved wheeling system! Thumbs Up

The P. E. F. is alive and well.

 


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    Posted: August 22, 2012, 11:07 am - IP Logged

    Winning 5+0 TWICE in 20 draws means you beat "the odds" by a 2 to 1 margin.

    This is good news for the LLs of this world and we stand united in P.E.F.

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      Posted: August 22, 2012, 1:47 pm - IP Logged

      Ohio Classic Lotto (6/49) had 44 of its numbers hit in the last 12 drawings, so I may try the same thing with 10 lines for its drawing tonight.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Ohio Classic Lotto (6/49) had 44 of its numbers hit in the last 12 drawings, so I may try the same thing with 10 lines for its drawing tonight.

        I like the way it works.

        I'm going back to using 12 eliminations.

        I'm going to stop using the previous draw as an elimination.


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          Posted: August 22, 2012, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

          For Fri. Aug. 24, 2012

          elimination: 54 21 15 26 25 34 53 55 03 47 20 44

                             03 15 20 21 25 26 34 44 47 53 54 55

          In play:

          05 13 23 33 08 24 35 56 39 10 18 36 38 30 32 42 48 02 46 29 41 04 43 09 51 50 52 01

          01 02 04 05 08 09 10 13 18 23 24 29 30 32 33 35 36 38 39 41 42 43 46 48 50 51 52 56

          bonus ball 3


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            Posted: August 22, 2012, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

            Here is a question...........

            I want to start playing a 12 number 4 if 5 LP wheel. (35 combinations)

            If I input the numbers 2 different ways do I get repeating combinations??

            05 13 23 08 24 10 18 30 32 02 29 04

            02 04 05 08 10 13 18 23 24 29 30 32


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              Posted: August 22, 2012, 11:49 pm - IP Logged

              Ok, so my objective is to get 5 of 5 playing 12 numbers.

              A full 5 if 5 wheel is $792. every draw so that is out.

              A 4 if 4 is $113. so that is a possibility.

              But a 4 if 5 is only $35. and I could play it 2 different input ways for $70. per draw.

              Which is best with a 5 if 5 objective??

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                Posted: August 23, 2012, 9:19 am - IP Logged

                Ok, so my objective is to get 5 of 5 playing 12 numbers.

                A full 5 if 5 wheel is $792. every draw so that is out.

                A 4 if 4 is $113. so that is a possibility.

                But a 4 if 5 is only $35. and I could play it 2 different input ways for $70. per draw.

                Which is best with a 5 if 5 objective??

                Matching 5 playing 12 numbers is what the participants in the Maddog challenge have been trying to do for years.

                I'll probably just pick 20 lines randomly using parameters that would have given me better results in the last drawing since the number distribution is similar to the last time.  Instead of using the last 13 drawings, I'll be using the last 14.

                Even thought the 10 lines I played in Ohio Classic Lotto didn't produce a winner, they had 5 of the winners matching 2 six times and matching 1 three times.  They had the potential to match 4, it just didn't happen with ten lines.

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                  Matching 5 playing 12 numbers is what the participants in the Maddog challenge have been trying to do for years.

                  I'll probably just pick 20 lines randomly using parameters that would have given me better results in the last drawing since the number distribution is similar to the last time.  Instead of using the last 13 drawings, I'll be using the last 14.

                  Even thought the 10 lines I played in Ohio Classic Lotto didn't produce a winner, they had 5 of the winners matching 2 six times and matching 1 three times.  They had the potential to match 4, it just didn't happen with ten lines.

                  Right, your group of 41 contained all 5 winning numbers. This gives you BETTER ODDS than choosing from a group of 56 numbers.

                  Following this line of thinking, a group of 28 numbers that contain all 5 winning numbers will be even BETTER ODDS than a group of 41,

                  I may not have all the winners in my group as often but when I do the likelihood of getting a group of 12 with all the winners will be greater.

                  For now a group of 12 is the only way I can see playing live.


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                    Posted: August 23, 2012, 10:23 am - IP Logged

                    So any suggestions.......

                    Do I play 4 if 4

                    or

                    4 if 5

                    ??


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                      Posted: August 23, 2012, 10:29 am - IP Logged

                      From now on I will be submitting my 12 numbers at Maddogs Mega Millions Challenge 8/21

                      Except on the day I hit 5+1 on the "JP Games Forum" I will also be holding a live winner.

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                        Posted: August 23, 2012, 11:04 am - IP Logged

                        So any suggestions.......

                        Do I play 4 if 4

                        or

                        4 if 5

                        ??

                        That depends on how much you want to spend. A 12 number 4 if 4 wheel has 113 combos, a 4 if 5 has 35 and 3 if 3 has 29. Thought I really like Maddog's Challenges, I don't play because of my phobia of matching 5 + 1,  but not playing.

                        A couple years ago a member tracked all the players by assuming each player used a full 12 number wheel with the four bonus numbers. The cost of play was $3168 in every drawing for every player. The results were predictable and showed the cumulative loss was substantial. I suggested for a more practical statistical result they use a 12 combo 3 if 4 wheel, they didn't because they wanted to prove even if a Challenge player matched 5 + 0 once a year they would play at a loss.

                        If I were to play the MM Challenge every week, I'd use the 12 combo 3 if 4 wheel so I could cover each of the four bonus numbers three times. $1248 a year might sound high to some players, but one 4 + 1 match would easily cover that. If I had an extra hundred and liked the chances of my 12 numbers in the next drawing, I'd use the 4 if 4 wheel. If I was in for the long run, I'd play the 3 if 4.


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                          Posted: August 23, 2012, 11:15 am - IP Logged

                          That depends on how much you want to spend. A 12 number 4 if 4 wheel has 113 combos, a 4 if 5 has 35 and 3 if 3 has 29. Thought I really like Maddog's Challenges, I don't play because of my phobia of matching 5 + 1,  but not playing.

                          A couple years ago a member tracked all the players by assuming each player used a full 12 number wheel with the four bonus numbers. The cost of play was $3168 in every drawing for every player. The results were predictable and showed the cumulative loss was substantial. I suggested for a more practical statistical result they use a 12 combo 3 if 4 wheel, they didn't because they wanted to prove even if a Challenge player matched 5 + 0 once a year they would play at a loss.

                          If I were to play the MM Challenge every week, I'd use the 12 combo 3 if 4 wheel so I could cover each of the four bonus numbers three times. $1248 a year might sound high to some players, but one 4 + 1 match would easily cover that. If I had an extra hundred and liked the chances of my 12 numbers in the next drawing, I'd use the 4 if 4 wheel. If I was in for the long run, I'd play the 3 if 4.

                          Well if playing to lose was their objective, I think they have certainly succeeded.

                          As far as the 4 if 4, do you think it give me a better chance at 5 of 5?

                          Suppose I used the 4 if 5 THREE different ways for 105 lines??


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                            Posted: August 23, 2012, 11:19 am - IP Logged

                            In other words, I'm willing to sacrifice all the 3 of 5 and 4 of 5 hits for the best chance of getting 5 of 5 on the day I actually have all 5 winning numbers in my group of 12.


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                              Posted: August 23, 2012, 11:36 am - IP Logged

                              That depends on how much you want to spend. A 12 number 4 if 4 wheel has 113 combos, a 4 if 5 has 35 and 3 if 3 has 29. Thought I really like Maddog's Challenges, I don't play because of my phobia of matching 5 + 1,  but not playing.

                              A couple years ago a member tracked all the players by assuming each player used a full 12 number wheel with the four bonus numbers. The cost of play was $3168 in every drawing for every player. The results were predictable and showed the cumulative loss was substantial. I suggested for a more practical statistical result they use a 12 combo 3 if 4 wheel, they didn't because they wanted to prove even if a Challenge player matched 5 + 0 once a year they would play at a loss.

                              If I were to play the MM Challenge every week, I'd use the 12 combo 3 if 4 wheel so I could cover each of the four bonus numbers three times. $1248 a year might sound high to some players, but one 4 + 1 match would easily cover that. If I had an extra hundred and liked the chances of my 12 numbers in the next drawing, I'd use the 4 if 4 wheel. If I was in for the long run, I'd play the 3 if 4.

                              Ok, your talking about playing 12 lines each draw and spreading the 4 bonus balls over those 12. Sounds like a good strategy but way too long on odds. I want to stick with what has already worked, which means focusing on getting the 5 of 5 and letting the bonus hit if it may.

                              When I post 4 bonus numbers in the Challenge I will only be playing one number for real.

                                 
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