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Posted: September 4, 2012, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

Taking the numbers in order of appearance produces this (BETTER ODDS) LP generated wheel........

Input:  41, 9, 13, 8, 24, 35, 10, 38, 44, 51

1. 08-09-10-13-41
2. 09-13-24-35-41
3. 09-10-13-38-41
4. 09-13-41-44-51
5. 08-09-24-35-41
6. 08-09-10-41-51
7. 08-09-38-41-44
8. 09-10-24-41-44
9. 09-24-38-41-51
10. 09-10-35-41-51
11. 09-35-38-41-44
12. 08-13-24-41-44
13. 08-13-35-38-41
14. 08-13-35-41-51
15. 10-13-24-41-51
16. 13-24-38-41-44
17. 10-13-35-41-44
18. 13-35-38-41-51
19. 08-10-24-38-41
20. 08-24-41-44-51
21. 08-10-35-41-44
22. 08-35-38-41-51
23. 10-24-35-38-41
24. 24-35-41-44-51
25. 10-38-41-44-51
26. 08-09-13-24-38
27. 08-09-13-24-51
28. 08-09-13-35-44
29. 09-10-13-24-44
30. 09-10-13-35-51
31. 09-13-35-38-44
32. 09-13-38-44-51
33. 08-09-10-24-44
34. 08-09-10-35-38
35. 08-09-35-44-51
36. 08-09-10-38-51
37. 09-10-24-35-44
38. 09-24-35-38-51
39. 09-10-24-38-44
40. 09-10-24-44-51
41. 09-35-38-44-51
42. 08-10-13-24-35
43. 08-10-13-38-44
44. 08-10-13-38-51
45. 08-10-13-44-51
46. 10-13-24-35-38
47. 13-24-35-44-51
48. 10-13-24-38-51
49. 08-10-24-35-51
50. 08-24-35-38-44
51. 08-24-38-44-51
52. 10-35-38-44-51

When playing 28 numbers there is a possibility of having 5 or 6 consecutive numbers and/or 5 or 6 numbers in the same decade and when playing a large combo 4 if 4 wheel, several lines may have 4 or 5 of those numbers when the numbers are entered by numerical order. The object is to increase your odds so you don't want an extra amount of very low percentage combos.

There is a 46 combo 2 if 5 of 56 number wheel on LP that's probably hardly used, but it reduces the odds of matching five numbers to about 85,000 to 1 and that ain't bad for a $46 bet. You can use all the bonus numbers reducing the cost to $44. When using any size wheel when five of the numbers are drawn there, the order of how the numbers are entered into the wheel is the difference between matching five numbers on one line or getting the wheel's minimum guarantee.


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    Posted: September 4, 2012, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

    When playing 28 numbers there is a possibility of having 5 or 6 consecutive numbers and/or 5 or 6 numbers in the same decade and when playing a large combo 4 if 4 wheel, several lines may have 4 or 5 of those numbers when the numbers are entered by numerical order. The object is to increase your odds so you don't want an extra amount of very low percentage combos.

    There is a 46 combo 2 if 5 of 56 number wheel on LP that's probably hardly used, but it reduces the odds of matching five numbers to about 85,000 to 1 and that ain't bad for a $46 bet. You can use all the bonus numbers reducing the cost to $44. When using any size wheel when five of the numbers are drawn there, the order of how the numbers are entered into the wheel is the difference between matching five numbers on one line or getting the wheel's minimum guarantee.

    Thanks Stack, I have been using "mixed" order input for that very reason.


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      Posted: September 4, 2012, 6:30 pm - IP Logged

      Eliminations for Tue. Sept, 4, 2012

      15 18 29 50 52

      04 15 40 42 47

      22 29 30 32 48

      11 20 21 29 30

      02 18 25 34 48

      05 33 47 51 54

      15 17 39 44 54


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        Posted: September 4, 2012, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

        Numbers in play for Tue. Aug. 4, 2012

        02 03 05 08 09 10 13 20 21 23 24 25 33 34 35 36 38 39 41 43 44 45 46 48 49 51 55 56

        bonus ball 3


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          Posted: September 4, 2012, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

          Sure I buy lottery tickets but only after I've thought about it.

          When ever I play 10-20 lines they are picked using a RNG that cycles 1000-5000 times or more and produce more than 200-500 lines within the parameters I chose of which I picked 10-20 to play but save them all to check after the drawing.

          The 10-20 lines I play usually do as well as any in the group I saved and usually the first 10 lines do the best in the group of 20.

          With those kinds of results so far, I question the value of playing more than 10 lines but usually play 20 to give myself some extra chances at winning.

          It's not so much that more than 30 lines isn't in my budget as I don't have a reason to play more lines.

          Obviously you've come to a different conclusion and I say good luck to you and I hope you win a jackpot.

          I would not say our conclusions are so different RJOh, I often don't play any lines at all after thinking about it. The odds difference between 10 lines and even the 230 lines that I played last draw are so minuscule that there truly is almost no reason whatsoever to play the extra lines.

          A 1 in 39 chance that is easily cut to 1 in 15 is a different story though.

          Thats like betting a winner in a field of 15 horses.


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            Posted: September 4, 2012, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

            An example of a strategy with BETTER odds would be using 10 numbers from 12 previous draws.

            Such as: 08 09 10 13 24 35 38 41 44 51 

            Friday, August 31, 201231 · 40 · 41 · 47 · 48    + 453$83 Million
            Tuesday, August 28, 201204 · 09 · 40 · 45 · 50    + 394$73 Million
            Friday, August 24, 201225 · 34 · 45 · 46 · 49    + 342$65 Million
            Tuesday, August 21, 201205 · 13 · 20 · 23 · 33    + 302$55 Million
            Friday, August 17, 201208 · 20 · 24 · 35 · 56    + 243$45 Million
            Tuesday, August 14, 201215 · 23 · 34 · 39 · 55    + 324$36 Million
            Friday, August 10, 201210 · 18 · 36 · 38 · 44    + 084$29 Million
            Tuesday, August 07, 201230 · 32 · 33 · 42 · 48    + 074$21 Million
            Friday, August 03, 201202 · 10 · 13 · 38 · 46    + 023$13 Million
            Tuesday, July 31, 201205 · 18 · 21 · 29 · 41    + 373$12 Million
            Friday, July 27, 201202 · 03 · 04 · 08 · 43    + 263$52 Million
            Tuesday, July 24, 201205 · 09 · 38 · 46 · 51    + 054$45 Million
            Friday, July 20, 201202 · 44 · 48 · 50 · 52    + 03

            These would be my numbers if I were playing 4 if 4 of 10 tonight. I was going to play this for 10 draws until I realized that I would be stuck with the same bonus number for 10 draws, which I may not want.


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              Posted: September 4, 2012, 11:26 pm - IP Logged

              This is where the winning numbers were hidden....

              Tuesday, September 04, 201216 · 32 · 39 · 41 · 53    + 163$93 Million
              Friday, August 31, 201231 · 40 · 41 · 47 · 48    + 453$83 Million
              Tuesday, August 28, 201204 · 09 · 40 · 45 · 50    + 394$73 Million
              Friday, August 24, 201225 · 34 · 45 · 46 · 49    + 342$65 Million
              Tuesday, August 21, 201205 · 13 · 20 · 23 · 33    + 302$55 Million
              Friday, August 17, 201208 · 20 · 24 · 35 · 56    + 243$45 Million
              Tuesday, August 14, 201215 · 23 · 34 · 39 · 55    + 324$36 Million
              Friday, August 10, 201210 · 18 · 36 · 38 · 44    + 084$29 Million
              Tuesday, August 07, 201230 · 32 · 33 · 42 · 48    + 074$21 Million
              Friday, August 03, 201202 · 10 · 13 · 38 · 46    + 023$13 Million
              Tuesday, July 31, 201205 · 18 · 21 · 29 · 41    + 373$12 Million
              Friday, July 27, 201202 · 03 · 04 · 08 · 43    + 263$52 Million
              Tuesday, July 24, 201205 · 09 · 38 · 46 · 51    + 054$45 Million
              Friday, July 20, 201202 · 44 · 48 · 50 · 52    + 033$37 Million
              Tuesday, July 17, 201201 · 13 · 21 · 49 · 55    + 174$28 Million
              Friday, July 13, 201206 · 07 · 13 · 24 · 46    + 342$21 Million
              Tuesday, July 10, 201203 · 11 · 19 · 23 · 36    + 214$14 Million
              Friday, July 06, 201220 · 23 · 28 · 35 · 39    + 213$12 Million
              Tuesday, July 03, 201203 · 04 · 24 · 36 · 52    + 454$86 Million
              Friday, June 29, 201228 · 34 · 39 · 45 · 53    + 344$75 Million
              Tuesday, June 26, 201203 · 16 · 23 · 35 · 36    + 20

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                Posted: September 4, 2012, 11:40 pm - IP Logged

                No one did better than 3+0 on this draw.


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                  Posted: September 4, 2012, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

                  The winning numbers were 48 numbers deep in the previous results.


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                    Posted: September 5, 2012, 10:42 am - IP Logged

                    Take a look at PB and see how deep the winners were on Sat,....  56 numbers deep.

                    Saturday, September 01, 201208 · 11 · 21 · 44 · 49    + 22$80 Million
                    Wednesday, August 29, 201225 · 28 · 49 · 54 · 56    + 28$70 Million
                    Saturday, August 25, 201201 · 06 · 07 · 20 · 49    + 23$60 Million
                    Wednesday, August 22, 201222 · 29 · 31 · 47 · 55    + 19$50 Million
                    Saturday, August 18, 201214 · 26 · 41 · 55 · 59    + 01$40 Million
                    Wednesday, August 15, 201206 · 27 · 46 · 51 · 56    + 21$337 Million
                    Saturday, August 11, 201204 · 13 · 39 · 46 · 51    + 01$253 Million
                    Wednesday, August 08, 201203 · 07 · 11 · 15 · 28    + 12$212 Million
                    Saturday, August 04, 201219 · 30 · 48 · 53 · 55    + 18$181 Million
                    Wednesday, August 01, 201203 · 16 · 48 · 56 · 58    + 04$158 Million
                    Saturday, July 28, 201205 · 06 · 13 · 36 · 50    + 13$139 Million
                    Wednesday, July 25, 201203 · 14 · 35 · 38 · 46    + 16$121 Million
                    Saturday, July 21, 201209 · 31 · 38 · 54 · 56    + 20$110 Million
                    Wednesday, July 18, 201202 · 05 · 20 · 23 · 57    + 03$100 Million
                    Saturday, July 14, 201204 · 16 · 32 · 37 · 46    + 13$90 Million
                    Wednesday, July 11, 201205 · 22 · 36 · 49 · 55    + 23$80 Million
                    Saturday, July 07, 201203 · 05 · 29 · 39 · 59    + 29$70 Million
                    Wednesday, July 04, 201214 · 19 · 35 · 39 · 56    + 33$60 Million
                    Saturday, June 30, 201207 · 15 · 20 · 41 · 44    + 22$50 Million
                    Wednesday, June 27, 201206 · 34 · 40 · 46 · 58    + 06$40 Million
                    Saturday, June 23, 201201 · 03 · 41 · 44 · 53    + 30$60 Million
                    Wednesday, June 20, 201211 · 17 · 29 · 56 · 57    + 14$50 Million
                    Saturday, June 16, 201208 · 14 · 15 · 16 · 27    + 26$40 Million
                    Wednesday, June 13, 201207 · 10 · 14 · 33 · 57    + 18$240 Million
                    Saturday, June 09, 201218 · 22 · 45 · 56 · 57    + 27$205 Million
                    Wednesday, June 06, 201219 · 30 · 33 · 48 · 59    + 27
                    Saturday, June 02, 201209 · 10 · 17 · 29 · 45    + 33$164 Million
                    Wednesday, May 30, 201209 · 10 · 24 · 52 · 56    + 14$146 Million
                    Saturday, May 26, 201213 · 14 · 41 · 49 · 59    + 14$128 Million
                    Wednesday, May 23, 201204 · 07 · 26 · 53 · 59    + 32$110 Million
                    Saturday, May 19, 201208 · 13 · 35 · 46 · 51    + 30$100 Million
                    Wednesday, May 16, 201203 · 07 · 21 · 28 · 43    + 02

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                      Posted: September 5, 2012, 11:08 am - IP Logged

                      Using elimination     06 11 15 29 56

                                                   08 13 36 39 54

                      PB numbers in play for Wed. Sept. 5, 2012

                      01 03 04 07 14 16 19 20 21 22 25 26 27 28 30 31 41 44 46 47 48 49 51 53 54 55 58 59

                      bonus ball 3


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                        Posted: September 5, 2012, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

                        These would be my numbers if I were playing 4 if 4 of 10 tonight. I was going to play this for 10 draws until I realized that I would be stuck with the same bonus number for 10 draws, which I may not want.

                        Once again my 10, 12 and even 20 number groups are not hitting.


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                          Posted: September 5, 2012, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

                          When playing 28 numbers there is a possibility of having 5 or 6 consecutive numbers and/or 5 or 6 numbers in the same decade and when playing a large combo 4 if 4 wheel, several lines may have 4 or 5 of those numbers when the numbers are entered by numerical order. The object is to increase your odds so you don't want an extra amount of very low percentage combos.

                          There is a 46 combo 2 if 5 of 56 number wheel on LP that's probably hardly used, but it reduces the odds of matching five numbers to about 85,000 to 1 and that ain't bad for a $46 bet. You can use all the bonus numbers reducing the cost to $44. When using any size wheel when five of the numbers are drawn there, the order of how the numbers are entered into the wheel is the difference between matching five numbers on one line or getting the wheel's minimum guarantee.

                          I have seen 3 and 4 consecutive numbers in the winning draws, so I don't mind playing a few of them.

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                            Posted: September 5, 2012, 2:47 pm - IP Logged

                            I have seen 3 and 4 consecutive numbers in the winning draws, so I don't mind playing a few of them.

                            You should see 4 or 5 consecutive numbers about once out of every 1444 drawings because only 2704 combos have 4 to 5 consecutive numbers. The probability of 3 or more consecutive numbers in the history of the game is 13 and maybe RJ has the actual number. I'd keep the combinations with 3 or less consecutive numbers, but since the total of combos was reduced by 95%, I wouldn't want very many other combos having only a 0.07% chance of being drawn.


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                              You should see 4 or 5 consecutive numbers about once out of every 1444 drawings because only 2704 combos have 4 to 5 consecutive numbers. The probability of 3 or more consecutive numbers in the history of the game is 13 and maybe RJ has the actual number. I'd keep the combinations with 3 or less consecutive numbers, but since the total of combos was reduced by 95%, I wouldn't want very many other combos having only a 0.07% chance of being drawn.

                              Thanks Stack47, excellent point, I have not generated a 4 if 4 of 28 yet but when I do I will check it for the 4-5 consecutive number combos.

                                 
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