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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Don't you really mean "You have no strategy for playing the bonus number"?

I use a combination of repeat frequencies and avoidance of numbers that followed the last bonus number in previous drawings to improve my odds.  The list below have the top 15 bonus numbers with the most likely to be drawn at the top which I will include with lines I'm playing tonight.  I will also try and only use them with combinations with numbers that have appeared a total of only 5-8 times with them in the previous 750 drawings.

34
05
08
03
32
21
11
24
31
30
26
04
22
06
19

A better strategy would be to use all 46 numbers but that's not in my budget.

Thank you RJOh for these MM bonus numbers. This is extremely helpful.

Do you have any over on the PB side?? I just realized that the 8 ball is 47 games out and may be due for a hit. I'm going to grab some PB QPs for tonight based on this idea. (all number 8 bonus balls, of course)

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Have you abandoned you strategy of wheeling a select group of numbers in favor of quick picks instead?

In the 5/56 game I don't think there are any strategies for picking winning numbers until you get above 2000 lines or so. For playing a handful of live tickets, QP or self pick have an equal chance of winning.

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Thanks Stack47, excellent point, I have not generated a 4 if 4 of 28 yet but when I do I will check it for the 4-5 consecutive number combos.

If you put 4-5 consecutive numbers in your wheel and it's trying to cover every possible combination of 4's then it's unavoidable, it's going to include those numbers in one of its combination of fours.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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In the 5/56 game I don't think there are any strategies for picking winning numbers until you get above 2000 lines or so. For playing a handful of live tickets, QP or self pick have an equal chance of winning.

You can't avoid what you think, so go with it.  I'm sure you've hear others say something similar.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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You can't avoid what you think, so go with it.  I'm sure you've hear others say something similar.

I will likely prove myself wrong at some point, as I do believe that winning numbers can be intuitively chosen. Its just that right now nothing is flowing for me except MAYBE the 8 ball again, this time PB bonus.

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I will likely prove myself wrong at some point, as I do believe that winning numbers can be intuitively chosen. Its just that right now nothing is flowing for me except MAYBE the 8 ball again, this time PB bonus.

What you need is a good siphoning from the P.E.F. cow.  (MOO GOO).

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Ronnie, you could always insert the playslips yourself through the machines- right above where the machines take your money. At least that's what I do since I don't like dealing with the cashiers.

Though you do run the risk of the machine not accepting the slip (sometimes they are closed for whatever reason)

Just a friendly suggestion

Excellent suggestion mcginnin56, I'm going to see if I can nurture a supply from the recently discovered siphoning source that I located at my local gas station, conveniently displayed above with siphoning device circled to avoid any possible confusion.

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Excellent suggestion mcginnin56, I'm going to see if I can nurture a supply from the recently discovered siphoning source that I located at my local gas station, conveniently displayed above with siphoning device circled to avoid any possible confusion.

Simply brilliant grasshopper!

Your resourcefulness, creativity and ingenuity never fail to amaze me.

Happy siphoning.

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Simply brilliant grasshopper!

Your resourcefulness, creativity and ingenuity never fail to amaze me.

Happy siphoning.

Here is a sweet sample of the P.E.F. goo-eee udder goodness.

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I will likely prove myself wrong at some point, as I do believe that winning numbers can be intuitively chosen. Its just that right now nothing is flowing for me except MAYBE the 8 ball again, this time PB bonus.

At what point will you have proven yourself wrong?  For those who have done it, it's a once in a life time experience.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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At what point will you have proven yourself wrong?  For those who have done it, it's a once in a life time experience.

As soon as I hit 5 of 5 using only 10 numbers.

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I got zero on the live QP PB tickets........

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Using elimination     06 11 15 29 56

08 13 36 39 54

PB numbers in play for Wed. Sept. 5, 2012

01 03 04 07 14 16 19 20 21 22 25 26 27 28 30 31 41 44 46 47 48 49 51 53 54 55 58 59

bonus ball 3

Its easy to see how I got 4+0 on PB. The "42" was stuck 38 draws deep.

 Wednesday, September 05, 2012 04 · 19 · 26 · 42 · 51    + 29 \$90 Million Saturday, September 01, 2012 08 · 11 · 21 · 44 · 49    + 22 \$80 Million Wednesday, August 29, 2012 25 · 28 · 49 · 54 · 56    + 28 \$70 Million Saturday, August 25, 2012 01 · 06 · 07 · 20 · 49    + 23 \$60 Million Wednesday, August 22, 2012 22 · 29 · 31 · 47 · 55    + 19 \$50 Million Saturday, August 18, 2012 14 · 26 · 41 · 55 · 59    + 01 \$40 Million Wednesday, August 15, 2012 06 · 27 · 46 · 51 · 56    + 21 \$337 Million Saturday, August 11, 2012 04 · 13 · 39 · 46 · 51    + 01 \$253 Million Wednesday, August 08, 2012 03 · 07 · 11 · 15 · 28    + 12 \$212 Million Saturday, August 04, 2012 19 · 30 · 48 · 53 · 55    + 18 \$181 Million Wednesday, August 01, 2012 03 · 16 · 48 · 56 · 58    + 04
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 Posted: September 6, 2012, 10:39 am - IP Logged

I dont have \$4931. per draw in my budget, but that doesn't prevent me from working on a strategy.

Not many people have that high of a lottery budget where they could even make the attempt. But if they could and if they matched five numbers once out of every 15 drawings, they should show a small profit. It shows how difficult the game really is to win when a player has to risk almost \$300 grand over 30 weeks chasing the jackpot just to show a tiny profit.

That doesn't change the potential of a 28 number group getting a 1:15 ratio and taking advantage of it on a much smaller budget. A 2 if 2 wheel with about 50 combos using one, five, 10 or all the bonus numbers reduces the cost of play. It doesn't have the 4 if 4 guarantee, but there is the possibility of getting three or four numbers matches every time the group matches three or four numbers or all five once in 15 drawings. Conservatively the out of pocket expense should be around \$25 a drawing and probably much less.

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Not many people have that high of a lottery budget where they could even make the attempt. But if they could and if they matched five numbers once out of every 15 drawings, they should show a small profit. It shows how difficult the game really is to win when a player has to risk almost \$300 grand over 30 weeks chasing the jackpot just to show a tiny profit.

That doesn't change the potential of a 28 number group getting a 1:15 ratio and taking advantage of it on a much smaller budget. A 2 if 2 wheel with about 50 combos using one, five, 10 or all the bonus numbers reduces the cost of play. It doesn't have the 4 if 4 guarantee, but there is the possibility of getting three or four numbers matches every time the group matches three or four numbers or all five once in 15 drawings. Conservatively the out of pocket expense should be around \$25 a drawing and probably much less.

I like the idea Stack, the LP 2 if 2 of 28 wheel makes 41 combinations.

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