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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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The 41 combo LP wheel out performed the 48 combo wheel I found; the LP wheel had 2 three number matches and the other had 1. There were no five numbers matches by placing your numbers into a 4 if 4 and a 4 if 5 wheel using the same order. I tried other types of wheels and the most successful was a 3 if 5 wheel that had one four number match and some threes.

The results using a 2 if 2 wheel could be much better, but you still had 41 chances out of 98,280 to match all five numbers at a cost of \$27. If in the next drawing you match only four numbers, you can still get a four number match and then play the 2 if 2 wheel on "their money".

You are also right about the BETTER odds. As long as I get all 5 numbers in the 28 more than 1 in 39 times I'm getting BETTER odds. Right now I'm still averaging 1 in every 5-6 draws. 6.5 times BETTER odds.

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Oh yeah and thank you for checking all those wheels for me...... I'm close to getting access to all the wheels myself, just a little slow going for me with tech stuff, or anything administrative really.

I felt it was a huge acomplishment getting a .79 cent pencil sharpener and actually sharpening the pencils.

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I reduced my PB live play down to 2 if 2 of 20 in order to keep my cost at \$42.

Input:  4, 19, 42, 51, 21, 44, 49, 54, 6, 7, 20, 22, 47, 14, 39, 46, 15, 53, 16, 48

1. 04-14-16-19-22
2. 04-42-44-51-54
3. 04-06-07-21-46
4. 04-20-48-49-53
5. 04-15-39-47-54
6. 07-19-39-42-49
7. 06-15-19-48-51
8. 19-21-47-53-54
9. 19-20-44-46-54
10. 16-19-39-46-48
11. 21-22-42-48-54
12. 06-16-20-42-47
13. 14-15-42-46-53
14. 14-20-21-39-51
15. 22-46-47-49-51
16. 07-16-51-53-54
17. 15-16-21-44-49
18. 06-22-39-44-53
19. 07-14-44-47-48
20. 06-14-39-49-54
21. 07-15-20-22-54

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Help Stack.....  using all my available elimination numbers I was able to pare down the field to 23, but was still unable to find a wheel that contained to winning 5 of 5. Any ideas??

Input:  16, 32, 39, 47, 4, 45, 50, 25, 46, 5, 13, 20, 23, 8, 24, 56, 15, 55, 10, 18, 38, 44, 42

Didn't find any five number matches but a 28 combo 2 if 2 matched four numbers. There really isn't much anyone can do to place the 23 numbers in this example or the 28 into the correct order that matches five before the drawing. It's easy after the drawing; just look for a four number match and change the order by exchanging the missing number for the correct number.

The odds against using the correct order to match five numbers is the same whether the order is numerical, random, or a defined. You may have to chalk this one up the to slightly less than 4:1 odds a 4 if 4 wheel has of matching five numbers.

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Didn't find any five number matches but a 28 combo 2 if 2 matched four numbers. There really isn't much anyone can do to place the 23 numbers in this example or the 28 into the correct order that matches five before the drawing. It's easy after the drawing; just look for a four number match and change the order by exchanging the missing number for the correct number.

The odds against using the correct order to match five numbers is the same whether the order is numerical, random, or a defined. You may have to chalk this one up the to slightly less than 4:1 odds a 4 if 4 wheel has of matching five numbers.

Thanks again Stack, I liked your idea of chasing the pick 5 and Im working on the AZ 5/41. I would love to win \$100k and use it on MM. With 4931 lines per draw I could play at least 20 draws.

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PB numbers in play for Sat. Sept. 8, 2012

04 06 07 08 11 14 15 16 19 20 21 22 26 29 31 39 42 44 46 47 48 49 51 53 54 56 58 59

bonus ball 8

Hit 4+0 again on PB.

 Sat, Sep 8, 2012 06-20-34-44-48, Powerball: 29

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Once again its easy to see how I hit 4+0 on PB. The "34" was MIA 21 draws away.

This 4+0 is 34 numbers deep.

 Saturday, September 08, 2012 06 · 20 · 34 · 44 · 48    + 29 \$100 Million Wednesday, September 05, 2012 04 · 19 · 26 · 42 · 51    + 29 \$90 Million Saturday, September 01, 2012 08 · 11 · 21 · 44 · 49    + 22 \$80 Million Wednesday, August 29, 2012 25 · 28 · 49 · 54 · 56    + 28 \$70 Million Saturday, August 25, 2012 01 · 06 · 07 · 20 · 49    + 23 \$60 Million Wednesday, August 22, 2012 22 · 29 · 31 · 47 · 55    + 19 \$50 Million Saturday, August 18, 2012 14 · 26 · 41 · 55 · 59    + 01 \$40 Million Wednesday, August 15, 2012 06 · 27 · 46 · 51 · 56    + 21 \$337 Million Saturday, August 11, 2012 04 · 13 · 39 · 46 · 51    + 01 \$253 Million Wednesday, August 08, 2012 03 · 07 · 11 · 15 · 28    + 12 \$212 Million Saturday, August 04, 2012 19 · 30 · 48 · 53 · 55    + 18 \$181 Million Wednesday, August 01, 2012 03 · 16 · 48 · 56 · 58    + 04

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I now believe I can hit 5 of 5 using 9 numbers.

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Thanks again Stack, I liked your idea of chasing the pick 5 and Im working on the AZ 5/41. I would love to win \$100k and use it on MM. With 4931 lines per draw I could play at least 20 draws.

KY has a 4/33 + 1/31 game that has a 50 cent bet option to win \$100,000, \$1000 for matching four numbers, and \$25 for matching three and the game is drawn six nights a week. A 20 number 2 if 2 has 36 combos and by using 66% of the numbers, it's not unrealistic to expect to match four numbers one out of three drawings and three in the majority of the drawings. There is a 46% chance of matching three numbers when the wheel matches all four numbers.

I'll probably use nine bonus balls four times each so even if my ability to pick 20 numbers is a bust, I could play for two weeks for less than \$100.

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KY has a 4/33 + 1/31 game that has a 50 cent bet option to win \$100,000, \$1000 for matching four numbers, and \$25 for matching three and the game is drawn six nights a week. A 20 number 2 if 2 has 36 combos and by using 66% of the numbers, it's not unrealistic to expect to match four numbers one out of three drawings and three in the majority of the drawings. There is a 46% chance of matching three numbers when the wheel matches all four numbers.

I'll probably use nine bonus balls four times each so even if my ability to pick 20 numbers is a bust, I could play for two weeks for less than \$100.

Sounds like a good plan as long as you have some winning numbers in the set. I did well on AZ fantasy 5 with all 5 numbers in my set of 20. The 2 if 2 of 20 hit 3 of 5 several times with the 21 lines.

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Im now picking 3 sets using my method. The first with 9 numbers, the second with 12. and the third with 28.

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eliminations for MM Tue. Sept. 11, 2012

11 24 26 45 46

06 30 40 45 50

12 34 45 48 50

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eliminations for MM Tue. Sept. 11, 2012 (adding 2 more lines for elimination)

11 24 26 45 46

06 30 40 45 50

12 34 45 48 50

06 38 39 46 55

13 20 28 40 57

15 23 24 41 42

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Numbers in play for MM Tue. Sept. 11, 2012.

Set of 9

04 09 16 25 31 32 47 49 53

Set of 12

04 09 16 25 31 32 34 42 47 48 49 53

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Numbers in play for MM Tue. Sept. 11, 2012.

Set of 20

04 05 09 13 15 16 20 23 25 31 32 34 38 39 41 42 47 48 49 53

Set of 28

04 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 18 20 23 24 25 31 32 34 35 36 38 39 41 42 47 48 49 53 55 56

Bonus ball 3 .....(on all lines)

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