Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 7, 2013, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

The Noon draw was an unusual draw in that it had 8 numbers in the Singles. Split 8-4 on the 12's. While has split wide like that before this is the FIRST time it has ever gone that heavy on the numbers in the Single digits. Had a 66 Alpha Split and staying true to the fact that most digits will replay before they get 5 or more games out. Had been 54 games since the last 6-6 appeared.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 8, 2013, 3:13 pm - IP Logged

Figureon draw would do a 4-8 split on the 12's and it did. I was leaning towards 3-4-6-9 and it went 3-4-8-10. From that point on though I would have gone the wrong way so good thing I didn't play as would have been a waste of money. I would have gone for 6 Teens and 2 20's and it was a split of 4-4 instead of 6-2. 5-7 split on the alpha.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 9, 2013, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on February 9, 2013

Haven't looked at the lottery but did well with the dogs

last night. I'm still in research mode but made 4 $2 bets

and hit one for $17.40.

On that same race I had a quinella bet-- which is picking

the 1st and 2nd dog in any order. Two dogs didn't run

so I'm down to 6 and have what look like the two best

dogs with only one dog between them and the rail.

That dog came in 2nd---stupid dog.

The difference between the dogs and the lottery is I

can see when certain dogs should run well and bet those

races.

If I could find a way to know when my 3 numbers had a

30% chance of hitting at the same time or when my top 5

had about a 50% chance I might be able to make a living

off of the pick 3.

It would take some discipline to just play certain times but

the payoff would be good.

Like I've said before.... if you know 1 digit that is going to play and what "position" it will be in you will have 1 in 100 Odds. You can take $50.00, play all 100 at 50 cents each and win $250.00. Do that twice a day and you make $500 per day. I could live on that.

Get you a bunch of game cards and pre-mark them in sets of 100. Would take you 20 slips per 100 set. Recycle your game cards.

Then work on figuring out that 1 digit that is going to play which most of the time will come from the game that just drew. Keep record of how the alpha is running...Odd/Even. If you think that "1 number" is going to be Odd and you are coming off an Even game (2 E/1 O) then you have that 1 Odd number to work with. If it is Even coming off an Even draw, you have a 50/50 chance of getting that 1 number. Visa versa the other direction. Then consider whether that number is going to be higher....or lower...then the last to repeat. Once again....a 50/50 decision.

I may try it a little just to get some "seed money" for playing the All or Nothing or if it works out $500 a day just do that. Would spend $100 a day but would get back $500 so would quadruple my money.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 9, 2013, 7:53 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on February 9, 2013

Like I've said before.... if you know 1 digit that is going to play and what "position" it will be in you will have 1 in 100 Odds. You can take $50.00, play all 100 at 50 cents each and win $250.00. Do that twice a day and you make $500 per day. I could live on that.

Get you a bunch of game cards and pre-mark them in sets of 100. Would take you 20 slips per 100 set. Recycle your game cards.

Then work on figuring out that 1 digit that is going to play which most of the time will come from the game that just drew. Keep record of how the alpha is running...Odd/Even. If you think that "1 number" is going to be Odd and you are coming off an Even game (2 E/1 O) then you have that 1 Odd number to work with. If it is Even coming off an Even draw, you have a 50/50 chance of getting that 1 number. Visa versa the other direction. Then consider whether that number is going to be higher....or lower...then the last to repeat. Once again....a 50/50 decision.

I may try it a little just to get some "seed money" for playing the All or Nothing or if it works out $500 a day just do that. Would spend $100 a day but would get back $500 so would quadruple my money.

Just looking at the last 35 day draws for Pick 3 and it appears it's in a cycle of not repeating much. Usually it does 60-62% of the time. Right now it is running less then 40%. When this happens though you can eliminate all digits in prior game from consideration. This causes a big reduction in your Odds. Especially if you can elminate 3 digits. Think Monday Day draw is going to have a Odd number in the 2nd position and Sum Total Odd with all 3 digits coming within the last 4 draws which means digit 2 and 9 are out.

If there is no repeat, it could be a PURE Odd draw. If 1 repeat the "0" will be involved with an Odd digit in the 2nd more then likely the "5".

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 9, 2013, 8:56 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on February 9, 2013

Just looking at the last 35 day draws for Pick 3 and it appears it's in a cycle of not repeating much. Usually it does 60-62% of the time. Right now it is running less then 40%. When this happens though you can eliminate all digits in prior game from consideration. This causes a big reduction in your Odds. Especially if you can elminate 3 digits. Think Monday Day draw is going to have a Odd number in the 2nd position and Sum Total Odd with all 3 digits coming within the last 4 draws which means digit 2 and 9 are out.

If there is no repeat, it could be a PURE Odd draw. If 1 repeat the "0" will be involved with an Odd digit in the 2nd more then likely the "5".

Another possibility is a two digit repeat...4-6, 6-8 or 4-8 with an odd in the 2nd. I have come up with 17 possible combinatios but not the EXACT.

450-513-713-650-461 -850-481-463-681-483-465-683-485-467-685-487-687. If could come up with 1 more decision that could be cut to 12.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 9, 2013, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on February 9, 2013

Haven't looked at the lottery but did well with the dogs

last night. I'm still in research mode but made 4 $2 bets

and hit one for $17.40.

On that same race I had a quinella bet-- which is picking

the 1st and 2nd dog in any order. Two dogs didn't run

so I'm down to 6 and have what look like the two best

dogs with only one dog between them and the rail.

That dog came in 2nd---stupid dog.

The difference between the dogs and the lottery is I

can see when certain dogs should run well and bet those

races.

If I could find a way to know when my 3 numbers had a

30% chance of hitting at the same time or when my top 5

had about a 50% chance I might be able to make a living

off of the pick 3.

It would take some discipline to just play certain times but

the payoff would be good.

Oso, If you are going to play the Pick 3 and more in particular the Day game, be advised that there is a high incidence of doubles appearing right now. Usually doubles don't appear but about every 8 to 10 draws, In the last 35 draws there have been 12 doubles. On the plus side it would be a good time to get that 1 digit as you have a 50/50 chance of getting the 1 digit coming off a double. Then just figure out what position it will be in...or....play number sets that have 1 of the digits in any order. You can get a chart that gives you all the possible 3 digit combinations with a specific digit in each of them.

That's 36 sets of numbers and there should be 36 in each set with one specific digit.

Something else you might be interested in is that most of the time the 3 digits that are drawn will have a Sum Total of 11 through 19. With that in mind you could eliminate 20 of the abovve 36 sets.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 10, 2013, 5:41 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on February 10, 2013

I took a look at the past winning numbers and

I'm just not seeing anything. I did see that many

times 2 numbers repeat as in 141 and 412, 074 044

348 389, 334 743, 187 189, 537 737.

All of those happened since the 23rd of Jan in both draws.

I am not very good at guessing correctly. You give me a 50/50

chance--like should I turn right or left and I will miss it an above

average amount of times---it's just a gift I guess.

So I would have to spend more time but doesn't look like I will

anytime soon.

As previously mentioned, there is a higher then normal average of doubles appearing what usually happens. Not surprised you are seeing a lot of double digit repeats. When fewer doubles are appearing you would see more and more single digit repeat from game to game instead of the double digit repeats of the past 35 games in the Day draw. According to my database for the last 35 draws of the Day game there have been 17 No Digit Repeat, 12 1-digit repeat, 2 2-digit repeat and 3 3-digit repeat draws. If there weren't as many doubles appearing that 12 for single digit repeat would be much, much higher

The above is all combinations of 3 different digit possibilies. Each one of them can be written 6 different ways. Just as there are 100 EXacts for a specific number in any given position, there is also 100 of these "3 digit combinations:. The small number across the top is the Sum Total for the combinations below it,

Eliminate 1 digit and that 100 will reduce to 70. Eliminate a 2nd digit and the 100 reduces to 48. I think this is what is going to happen for tomorrows day draw if all 3 digits come from within the last 4 draws. The 2 and 9 are the only two digits 5+ games out since last drawn.

In order to know what to eliminate, you have to keep a written record to see how long it has been since a particular digit has played. When I started out tracking all I did was use pen and paper. I didn't have a computer much less a software program to maintain information. I used a 13 column accouting ledger. There are 5 rows per "box" in each column.

I start out on line 2 writing the 3 digits that just drew. Then the next draw I move one column over and if a number repeats it stays on that line in the net column and any digit that doesn't play moved down a row. This happens by recording the results in the 2nd column. As each new entry is registered progressively across the ledger, always with the number of the day on the top and all other digits progressively going lower and lower in the column, you will be able to see how many draws it has been since it last played. When a digit plays I circle it in red to identify the distance it went before drawing again and can see how long since it was last drawn. As you look across the ledger sheet you will start to see something. With the circled digits you will see that most of the numbers will redraw before they get 5 or more games out. There is a natural division line on the ledger between every 5 rows.

I firmly believe that to get anything out of something you have to put some effort in. If you don't, you are operating purely by "guess". What I do is still a "guess" but it is an "educated guess". By studying and knowing the makeup of the numbers, however many combinations there are, how long it's been since a number was drawn you can take a whole lot of "guessing" out.

It's not a large payout but I could take $24.00 tomorrow, play all 48 combinations in a 50 cent any order bet and triple+ money spent.

Even if you don't know what numbers to eliminate but know the number drawn will be 3 different digits, you can spend $50 on 50 cent any order on the 100 sets and get back $80. Again, this is not a big payback but at least you get your money back plus some

PS: That 100 can be reduced to 68 numbers most of the time without even eliminating a digit. How? Eliminate all combinations that Sum Total 0 thru 10 and 20-24. Right now on the Day draw using the last 35 numbers that is running 50/50 that the Sum Total will be 11 thru 19. There have been 18 draws that Sum Total 11-19. 12 have Sum Total 0-10 with the remaining 5 20-24.

Why is it safe to eliminate Doubles and Pures most of the time? Because 75% of all the 1000 EXACT combinations are 3 different digits.

houston texas United States Member #130267 July 10, 2012 6300 Posts Offline

Posted: February 11, 2013, 8:21 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Oso Grande on February 10, 2013

I took a look at the past winning numbers and

I'm just not seeing anything. I did see that many

times 2 numbers repeat as in 141 and 412, 074 044

348 389, 334 743, 187 189, 537 737.

All of those happened since the 23rd of Jan in both draws.

I am not very good at guessing correctly. You give me a 50/50

chance--like should I turn right or left and I will miss it an above

average amount of times---it's just a gift I guess.

So I would have to spend more time but doesn't look like I will

anytime soon.

Let me drop you guys some insight on the p3. The numbers drawn come from the pre-draw numbers from the daily 4 numbers. When I look for my p3 numbers, I go back the day before and check out the d4 pre-draw numbers. You can go back and look. The other day, the p3 number came from the d4 pre-draw numbers from the same draw time. I hope this helps ya in figuring out what to play.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 11, 2013, 12:43 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by dannyboyhouston on February 11, 2013

Let me drop you guys some insight on the p3. The numbers drawn come from the pre-draw numbers from the daily 4 numbers. When I look for my p3 numbers, I go back the day before and check out the d4 pre-draw numbers. You can go back and look. The other day, the p3 number came from the d4 pre-draw numbers from the same draw time. I hope this helps ya in figuring out what to play.

I don't even bother with the pre-draw numbers of any games. Been tracking numbers for 20 years. Started out on the Lotto until they came in with the Pick 3 and found it a lot easier to track. Was able to apply some of my techniques in the Lotto to the Pick 3 and after working the Pick 3 I found things to use on the Lotto tracking.

Some insight on the Lotto: I believe there are now 54 numbers but when it started they had 50. The game card had the numbers displayed in rows of 5 numbers each for a total of 10 rows. If you look at the rows you will also see "columns". The numbers in those columns have something in common. Column 1 all the numbers end in either 1 or 6; Column 2 - 2 or 7; Column 3- 3 or 8; Column 4 - 4 or 9; and Column 5 - 5 or 0. There are 6 Denominations: Singles, Teens, 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's.

WhaI learned was most of the time numbers came from only 5 of the 10 rows. You draw only 6 numbers so at least 4 rows will not have numbers used to begin with. Most of the time all numbers in one column would not appear. Most of the time only 4 Denominations would appear.

If you can eliminate 5 rows, 2 denominations and one entire column you can reduce your numbers to wheel down to 18 or less. AND...most of the time the numbers split in Alpha just like they do with All or Nothing, Two Step, etc leaning more in one direction then the other. For Lotto it would be a 2-4 or a 4-2 split.

If I could ever figure out the final step in my system I could get the EXACT Pick 3 99.9% of the time. The first two years I played Pick 3 I won over $5,000. This week was the first time I even looked at it in over 2 years. If I had that figured out the software would generate no more then 8 or 10 EXACT combinations to play and often times only 4. Just haven't had the time to spend trying to figure how to get over that last hurdle. I just need to time to work on it without having to worry about every day needs.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 11, 2013, 4:13 pm - IP Logged

What with all the doubles showing up lately I should have seen it coming on the Day draw. Just not use to them showing up as often. Figured would be at least a 1 digit repeat out of the 468 and it was. The "4" repeated. Knew the 2 and 9 would not be involved and the Sum Total of the Levels the digits were on would be low which pretty much knocked out the 1-3 and 7. Left only digits 4-6-8-5 and 0. I played 450, 650 and 850 which is about par for me. Usually get 2 of the 3 digits every time they draw :(

houston texas United States Member #130267 July 10, 2012 6300 Posts Offline

Posted: February 11, 2013, 6:02 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on February 11, 2013

What with all the doubles showing up lately I should have seen it coming on the Day draw. Just not use to them showing up as often. Figured would be at least a 1 digit repeat out of the 468 and it was. The "4" repeated. Knew the 2 and 9 would not be involved and the Sum Total of the Levels the digits were on would be low which pretty much knocked out the 1-3 and 7. Left only digits 4-6-8-5 and 0. I played 450, 650 and 850 which is about par for me. Usually get 2 of the 3 digits every time they draw :(

If you would have mirrored the 5 in the 450, you would have won.

Texas United States Member #1477 May 7, 2003 2311 Posts Offline

Posted: February 11, 2013, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by dannyboyhouston on February 11, 2013

If you would have mirrored the 5 in the 450, you would have won.

First I have to know what you m ean by "mirrored". I don't wheel numbers at all as my system is designed to get the EXACT. Was looking at the Night draws and while doubles are higher then normal there they aren't quite as frequent as the day draw. Even the Repeat rate is running lower then it normally does and even slightly lower then the Daily draw which is at a 50/50 right now.

Not clear on whether there will be a repeat out of 118 (last night draw) but charts indicate no double. Look for the 0-3 or 7 to play but not together in the same combination. If they don't appear look for either the 9 or 5. There is a conflict in data indicating whether all digits will come within last 4 or 1 from 5+ out which would be the 0, 3, 7. Right now have it narrowed down to 26 3 digit combinations but don't have an EXACT order on any of them. If I didnt dislike driving at night I would go to town and get some any order tickets. Think I shall wait and see what tomorrows data shows and if I get some Day tickets I can get my Night at the same time.