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Don't cry Jammy. 

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    The last time I looked there were no pictures on lottery balls of horses, jockeys, or cars. Your last post demonstrates one thing well - your ability to construct a false narrative to distract readers from the real issue under discussion, whether lottery draws are predictable by looking back at previous draws.  Dream on.

    Jimmy,

    Explain exactly what you mean, when you say,"lottery draws are not predictable,using past draws". Look at this stat for Fla's cash 3 for all the single combos. Would you not agree that you have very good odds playing nothing but singles. There are other factors in making the right choice to play, because no dummy is going to play 720 combos to win $500. Now on-line would be different if they allowed you to play 720 combos to win $900.

     

     

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      Its funny how anytime a post is RELVELANT to the life of a LOTTERY PLAYER Jammy either crys like a baby, ignores the post all together, or goes offline like a scared puppy wetting himself and tucking tail.

      Jimmy gave another boring lecture about his Monte Hall Carlo simulation where he set conditions no real pick-3 player would play. Maybe his Old Uncle Craig would play, but I'll bet Old Uncle Craig gets and answers many phones calls and emails from Nigerians and Jamaicans too.

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        The last time I looked there were no pictures on lottery balls of horses, jockeys, or cars. Your last post demonstrates one thing well - your ability to construct a false narrative to distract readers from the real issue under discussion, whether lottery draws are predictable by looking back at previous draws.  Dream on.

        Speaking of constructing false narratives, there is no guarantee based on past performance the best horse in the race won't stubble out of the starting gate, the jockey will fall off, or if the horse rights itself, will be several length back behind several other horses. Past performance doesn't prevent the best car driver in the world from crashing into the fence on turn 4 in the first lap either.

        Many of those bettors and many lottery players use past performance and make conditional wagers based on it. In auto racing, horse racing, and in sports betting there are several possibilities that can prevent "the best bet" based on past performance from winning. Do you really believe there would be the term "long shot" if only "the best" based on past performance won every race or every sporting event?

        "the real issue under discussion, whether lottery draws are predictable by looking back at previous draws."

        The real discussion "is anyone making an income form lottery" and not the outcome of your Monte Hall Carlo simulation where you set the conditions where the house will always win exactly 50% of the play. Even with your outrageous restrictions, the results still showed it possible for a few players to make an income. Are you saying it's impossible for real lottery players playing without your restrictions to make an income using past lottery results?

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          "Can you give me one logical reason why any gambler or lottery player would make bet if they believed they would lose?"

          If by "believed they would lose" you mean "KNEW they would lose," then, obviously, there would be no reason to bet.  However, in games such as the lottery, which are based on random processes, there is no way for anyone to KNOW in advance whether they are going to win, or lose.  And that includes YOU!

          Your "conditions" are based on a belief in the Gamblers Fallacy.  Since I'm pretty sure you will never admit that I'm right, wouldn't it be best for you, at this point, to just declare, "No mas!"?

          If you want to lecture LP members on the Gamblers Fallacy, I found a thread where you can try to explain it to one of our top 25 posters.

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/222040/3019982

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            Posted: April 14, 2013, 5:13 pm - IP Logged

            is anyone gaining or making a steady income from playing the lottery.

            Is Richard Lustig making an annual profit from his regular purchase of lottery tickets?


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              If you want to lecture LP members on the Gamblers Fallacy, I found a thread where you can try to explain it to one of our top 25 posters.

              http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/222040/3019982

              We have Casino type stores In the part of Florida where I live, and you can get a card and loaded it. If you win, you get money in the form of some kind of debit card to spend. By paying their customers in that fashion, they bypass the legal measures placed by law makers to ensure no casino type gambling on land, unless the owners are American Indian. But I guess they found a loophole.

               We have those now like every 5 miles. I never been In one, but I have two friends who go there and win 50 bucks in a short time and leave. I've seen the 50 dollar card.

              I don't believe they serve coffee like the Internet cafes, but I could be wrong. I'm assuming they have some kind of refreshments.

              I'm surprised that they allow this considering the laws about casinos. The only legal way to get paid cash is to ride on one of those casino boats that leave twice a day out 10 miles from the shore for about 5 hours. I went once and it was fine, until I had a few drinks and I got sea sick. I couldn't wait to get back to shore. lol


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                Jimmy,

                Explain exactly what you mean, when you say,"lottery draws are not predictable,using past draws". Look at this stat for Fla's cash 3 for all the single combos. Would you not agree that you have very good odds playing nothing but singles. There are other factors in making the right choice to play, because no dummy is going to play 720 combos to win $500. Now on-line would be different if they allowed you to play 720 combos to win $900.

                 

                 

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                You asked, "Explain exactly what you mean, when you say,'lottery draws are not predictable,using past draws'."

                Lottery draws are not predictable using past draws.


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                  Speaking of constructing false narratives, there is no guarantee based on past performance the best horse in the race won't stubble out of the starting gate, the jockey will fall off, or if the horse rights itself, will be several length back behind several other horses. Past performance doesn't prevent the best car driver in the world from crashing into the fence on turn 4 in the first lap either.

                  Many of those bettors and many lottery players use past performance and make conditional wagers based on it. In auto racing, horse racing, and in sports betting there are several possibilities that can prevent "the best bet" based on past performance from winning. Do you really believe there would be the term "long shot" if only "the best" based on past performance won every race or every sporting event?

                  "the real issue under discussion, whether lottery draws are predictable by looking back at previous draws."

                  The real discussion "is anyone making an income form lottery" and not the outcome of your Monte Hall Carlo simulation where you set the conditions where the house will always win exactly 50% of the play. Even with your outrageous restrictions, the results still showed it possible for a few players to make an income. Are you saying it's impossible for real lottery players playing without your restrictions to make an income using past lottery results?

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                    Posted: April 14, 2013, 7:03 pm - IP Logged

                    You asked, "Explain exactly what you mean, when you say,'lottery draws are not predictable,using past draws'."

                    Lottery draws are not predictable using past draws.

                    "Lottery draws are not predictable using past draws".

                     

                    In the Pick-3, maybe not all the time, but the seasoned players know how to spot trends like pairs that repeat. The problem is not knowing exactly when they will show again. And It's not just pairs, but a whole slew of other factors that help the player decide which numbers to use.

                    Surely there's always going to be luck involved. But luck would never present itself, had the player chosen not to play in the first place. So there is some predictability somewhere, but you have to be physically involved.

                    Running simulations to show proof is not satisfactory in my opinion. Once I learned the fascinating subject of Quantum Mechanics years ago, It was clear to me that there's a physical change to the fabric of the universe when there's an observer involved. Many tests have been conducted with Electrons and how they behave when a camera is recording their every move. The Electrons behaved differently when they were not being observed.


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                      "Lottery draws are not predictable using past draws".

                       

                      In the Pick-3, maybe not all the time, but the seasoned players know how to spot trends like pairs that repeat. The problem is not knowing exactly when they will show again. And It's not just pairs, but a whole slew of other factors that help the player decide which numbers to use.

                      Surely there's always going to be luck involved. But luck would never present itself, had the player chosen not to play in the first place. So there is some predictability somewhere, but you have to be physically involved.

                      Running simulations to show proof is not satisfactory in my opinion. Once I learned the fascinating subject of Quantum Mechanics years ago, It was clear to me that there's a physical change to the fabric of the universe when there's an observer involved. Many tests have been conducted with Electrons and how they behave when a camera is recording their every move. The Electrons behaved differently when they were not being observed.

                      "Many tests have been conducted with Electrons and how they behave when a camera is recording their every move. The Electrons behaved differently when they were not being observed."

                      And how do you feel these tests relate to the behaviour of balls in lottery machines, which are always being watched by cameras at draw time?


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                        "Many tests have been conducted with Electrons and how they behave when a camera is recording their every move. The Electrons behaved differently when they were not being observed."

                        And how do you feel these tests relate to the behaviour of balls in lottery machines, which are always being watched by cameras at draw time?

                        Well, maybe If they didn't have a camera or host standing next to the machine to click the switch, the outcome may be different, but I believe you missed my point altogether.

                        You said you can't predict the lottery using past data, and I was trying to explain that you can, simply by observing the trends and patterns.

                        An observer needs to make predictions, not a simulation run by a computer program. A program doesn't have the Human touch, finesse, complex thought patterns possibly Influenced by Quantum sources, intuition, and a host of many many other attributes.

                        I'm a firm believer that the whole universe is interconnected in every way, shape, and dimension. Our puny brains needs to get bigger to fill in those missing gaps, and that's why we don't win more often.

                        Past, present and future exist simultaneously. I've seen future events many times, although I didn't always capitalize on them. The Human involvement makes all the difference. Once a brain gets smart enough, and after it gets it's fill on the mechanical side of things, taps into the Quantum side, things become eerie. Try it sometime, you'll amaze yourself.


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                          OnlyMoney,

                          "Well, maybe If they didn't have a camera or host standing next to the machine to click the switch, the outcome may be different..."

                          But they DO have a camera and host[s] next to the machines.

                          "You said you can't predict the lottery using past data, and I was trying to explain that you can, simply by observing the trends and patterns."

                          When you observe these trends and patterns, what do you suspect causes them?

                          "Past, present and future exist simultaneously. I've seen future events many times..."

                          I don't know how to advise you in this area.

                          --Jimmy4164


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                            OnlyMoney,

                            "Well, maybe If they didn't have a camera or host standing next to the machine to click the switch, the outcome may be different..."

                            But they DO have a camera and host[s] next to the machines.

                            "You said you can't predict the lottery using past data, and I was trying to explain that you can, simply by observing the trends and patterns."

                            When you observe these trends and patterns, what do you suspect causes them?

                            "Past, present and future exist simultaneously. I've seen future events many times..."

                            I don't know how to advise you in this area.

                            --Jimmy4164

                            I know they have cameras, but again, would the outcome be different if they weren't present?

                            As far as the trends question, what causes them may be a mix of natural events Influenced by Human Interaction Is all I'm saying.

                            For the last part, I believe you can't advise me about that subject, Past, present, and future because you may be too rigid. Flex a little. Based on your writings, it's obvious to me you are a smart Individual, but sometimes that can get you in trouble. lol 

                            Too many schematics, not enough creativity.


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                              I know they have cameras, but again, would the outcome be different if they weren't present?

                              As far as the trends question, what causes them may be a mix of natural events Influenced by Human Interaction Is all I'm saying.

                              For the last part, I believe you can't advise me about that subject, Past, present, and future because you may be too rigid. Flex a little. Based on your writings, it's obvious to me you are a smart Individual, but sometimes that can get you in trouble. lol 

                              Too many schematics, not enough creativity.

                              OnlyMoney,

                              Thanks for a reasonable exchange.  If you knew me you would find I am much more open to new ideas than would appear from my postings here.  If I seem rigid on the issue of the connection between past and future lottery drawings, it's because I'm aware of no convincing evidence that there is a connection, and a multitude of evidence that there is not.  In addition to the  compelling mathematical evidence is the simple observation that after many years of existence, lottery commissions and casinos continue to make profits in proportion to what probability predicts they will.  Those who want us to believe that well guarded secret "systems" exist that produce steady incomes for some are either gullible, misunderstanding the math, or selling software.  If you believe that a winning system would not have "gone viral" after all these years because its owner[s] guard it until they die, you have a much different understanding of human nature than I do. (This observation alone is sufficient to demolish Stack47's claim that system players with long term ROIs greater than 100% are gaining quietly at the expense of losers at the other end.)  As for your experiences not explained by Newton's contributions, I'm open to any possibility.  But if you believe there is a way to correctly predict a future lottery draw in 2013, unless [or until] you have evidence to support your belief, I will continue to "rigidly" disagree with you.  Smile And Ronnie316's anecdote of the "man in Arizona" who "knew" he was going to win, and won, is not sufficient evidence, IMO.

                              --Jimmy4164
                              p.s.  Stack47: Athletes, horses, cars, and poker players do not behave like ping pong balls.

                                 
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