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SoundOff New Jersey Lottery is cheating in the Pick 3 and Pick 4 Games

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Posted: September 5, 2013, 11:30 pm - IP Logged

SOP is Standard Operating Procedure. Are there any Jersey players here today that might shed some light on this situation?

The only players that I know of here that play the NJ Lottery is Calabs and Easymoney.  They are usually only on during the mornings.

     

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    Standard Operating Procedures.  They need the guy/gal IN the picture for transparency.

    Well there have never been a guy/gal since I have been watching the drawings.  What does it signify by having them present

         

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      Posted: September 5, 2013, 11:32 pm - IP Logged

      The only players that I know of here that play the NJ Lottery is Calabs and Easymoney.  They are usually only on during the mornings.

      Todd and Haymaker are from NJ also.

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        Posted: September 5, 2013, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

        Well there have never been a guy/gal since I have been watching the drawings.  What does it signify by having them present

        Well i suppose that is a matter of perception.  Take in NY today, the guy was stuttering and stammering,( he probably was not supposed to do that) but it kind of puts a layer of realism in it i guess.    I have never seen a NJ live draw, but I would like to think that the audio is not potentially dubbed over any results shown.  Perhaps having them present gives a face to the witness of the draws?   If its too sterile and perfect then perhaps it could be viewed as contrived and dubious.  Its all conjecture I suppose.

        Nevermind me.  Maybe it signifies nothing.Blue Thinking

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          Well i suppose that is a matter of perception.  Take in NY today, the guy was stuttering and stammering,( he probably was not supposed to do that) but it kind of puts a layer of realism in it i guess.    I have never seen a NJ live draw, but I would like to think that the audio is not potentially dubbed over any results shown.  Perhaps having them present gives a face to the witness of the draws?   If its too sterile and perfect then perhaps it could be viewed as contrived and dubious.  Its all conjecture I suppose.

          Nevermind me.  Maybe it signifies nothing.Blue Thinking

          KY streams and archives their drawings and some of them look similar. I'm just guessing because I don't want to interrupt a good conspiracy theory, but only the pick-3 and pick-4 drawings were shown so I'm wondering if some creative editing was done to speed it up.

          And something else to think about, NJ is pari mutual so who are they cheating?

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            KY streams and archives their drawings and some of them look similar. I'm just guessing because I don't want to interrupt a good conspiracy theory, but only the pick-3 and pick-4 drawings were shown so I'm wondering if some creative editing was done to speed it up.

            And something else to think about, NJ is pari mutual so who are they cheating?

            Would you be kind enough to post the links to the drawings that you say are similar.  I hope you aren't suggesting that I conspiring against the lottery?  The Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawings are drawn at the same time but I am generally interested in the Pick 4 but since the same thing was happening in the Pick 3 as it was happening in the Pick 4, I've included it as well.  I wouldn't waste my time and everyone else's by fabricating what I saw.  The only reason why I didn't post the original links to the draws were because I get access to them via Facebook and I didn't want non Facebook users  here to not be able to access these links.  But if you want to see the original drawings from where these were taken, I have no problem of posting them.

                 


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              KY streams and archives their drawings and some of them look similar. I'm just guessing because I don't want to interrupt a good conspiracy theory, but only the pick-3 and pick-4 drawings were shown so I'm wondering if some creative editing was done to speed it up.

              And something else to think about, NJ is pari mutual so who are they cheating?

              I never said they were cheating per se.

              I dont know.  Sometimes those type of sociopaths just cheat for the sake of cheating, to just "outsmart" everyone perhaps.  If the draw integrity is at question, then they dont have to cheat anyone, they just have to turn the tide in the favor of their bet.   All drawings and videos of drawings should be standard for the sake of integrity. 

              Maybe it has no bearing at all on the random process, but a little piece of mind goes a long way.  As for conspiracy theories, 9-11 is just around the corner.

              Time to go pattern hunting.Type

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                Posted: September 5, 2013, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

                Texas has drawn out of order before too. It has nothing to do with what they are doing, but rather because it is driven by air mix/vacuum. But for Pick 3/4 it does not affect winning combinations because each position has its own pool. One pool cannot the affect the other even if it wanted to. So basically, the order the numbers are selected do not matter unless of course you are superstitious/observe voodoo.

                If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
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                  Posted: September 5, 2013, 11:59 pm - IP Logged

                  Here's the link https://www.facebook.com/NewJerseyLottery/app_413804315309609

                   

                  Sept 2, 3, 4, and 5 Evening drawings

                       

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                    Hello LP.

                    I've been following this site for a while now.   I've always enjoyed playing with numbers and discovering patterns.  So this place feels like a second home to me.   But after reading about and watching this anomaly with my own two eyes.  I had to say something.   I live in New Jersey and play the pick 3 and pick 4.   So this matters to me. 

                    I watched the video in question and  some of the earlier ones that went into August.   I noticed the procedure for drawing the balls in both games followed a one by one approach.  But from 9/02/2013-9/05/2013 the balls were drawn almost exactly the same time.  Note this only happened on the evening drawings. Just like chrissy16 said.   Another thing I noticed was the announcer's voice was the same each and every time this occured.  And yet another thing I noticed, this anomaly started immediately at the intruduction of the Red Ball promotion.  All these strange coincidences could mean a few things.   They may have hired a new person to run their machines and this is their incompetence showing.  Or this could be the result of selling the state lottery to private business.  Or it could be totally intentional as some suspect.   I'm keeping an even closer eye on their drawings now.  Thank you for posting this.

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                      That's pretty cool, i HOPE our lottery is drawn that fast then i won't have to wait forever on the numbers Big Grin

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                        Hello LP.

                        I've been following this site for a while now.   I've always enjoyed playing with numbers and discovering patterns.  So this place feels like a second home to me.   But after reading about and watching this anomaly with my own two eyes.  I had to say something.   I live in New Jersey and play the pick 3 and pick 4.   So this matters to me. 

                        I watched the video in question and  some of the earlier ones that went into August.   I noticed the procedure for drawing the balls in both games followed a one by one approach.  But from 9/02/2013-9/05/2013 the balls were drawn almost exactly the same time.  Note this only happened on the evening drawings. Just like chrissy16 said.   Another thing I noticed was the announcer's voice was the same each and every time this occured.  And yet another thing I noticed, this anomaly started immediately at the intruduction of the Red Ball promotion.  All these strange coincidences could mean a few things.   They may have hired a new person to run their machines and this is their incompetence showing.  Or this could be the result of selling the state lottery to private business.  Or it could be totally intentional as some suspect.   I'm keeping an even closer eye on their drawings now.  Thank you for posting this.

                        Thanks Dredd for your reply.

                         

                        I read what you said and appreciate it.  I too think this can be the effects after being handed over to the private market.  Also, I said the same thing to myself but forgot to post earlier on, which is this phenomenon came into play after this new promo was implemented.  Probably trying to throw a curve ball in there.  I have a question, have you had the chance to look at any of the August drawings?

                             

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                          That's pretty cool, i HOPE our lottery is drawn that fast then i won't have to wait forever on the numbers Big Grin

                          Helpmewin, I know how you get down, please don't mess up this thread by being silly.  This is really serious to me.  In fact there is nothing cool about it.  With all due respect.

                               

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                            Helpmewin, I know how you get down, please don't mess up this thread by being silly.  This is really serious to me.  In fact there is nothing cool about it.  With all due respect.

                            I agree with this. I dislike when serious threads get filled with irrelevant posts and a bung of spam smileys. No offense to helpmewin, just keeping it real.

                            I wish spam was more enforced on lottery post. Spam is truly a disaster here on this whole board.

                            On topic: Dredd, good post! All in all, I hope Todd can put some useful insight. I would hate for something like this to happen in New York.

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                              Thanks Dredd for your reply.

                               

                              I read what you said and appreciate it.  I too think this can be the effects after being handed over to the private market.  Also, I said the same thing to myself but forgot to post earlier on, which is this phenomenon came into play after this new promo was implemented.  Probably trying to throw a curve ball in there.  I have a question, have you had the chance to look at any of the August drawings?

                              Yes.

                              I've looked at a few days worth of August's drawings.  I'm still searching through them.  But so far I haven't see this anomaly occur in that month.