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SoundOff New Jersey Lottery is cheating in the Pick 3 and Pick 4 Games

Topic closed. 90 replies. Last post 3 years ago by chrissy16.

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Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:23 am - IP Logged

Thanks Dredd for your reply.

 

I read what you said and appreciate it.  I too think this can be the effects after being handed over to the private market.  Also, I said the same thing to myself but forgot to post earlier on, which is this phenomenon came into play after this new promo was implemented.  Probably trying to throw a curve ball in there.  I have a question, have you had the chance to look at any of the August drawings?

The red ball is not a brand new promotion. They have done it before. I watched a couple of the other drawings, in  the pick 5

and pick 6 drawings the balls came up normally. Although it was similar to the MM and PB machines in that the balls come

out in a tube at the bottom. If you google any state's lottery, you can go the state's lottery website and watch the drawings

as they are televised.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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    Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:24 am - IP Logged

    Thanks.  My thinking is that if we can rule out that this anomaly didn't occur in August and started coincidentally right when this promo came out we can maybe link it to this promo.  But I am bit more suspicious I will be looking back further than August.  Something is telling me this anomaly occurred in June.

         

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      Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:29 am - IP Logged

      The red ball is not a brand new promotion. They have done it before. I watched a couple of the other drawings, in  the pick 5

      and pick 6 drawings the balls came up normally. Although it was similar to the MM and PB machines in that the balls come

      out in a tube at the bottom. If you google any state's lottery, you can go the state's lottery website and watch the drawings

      as they are televised.

      I know the red ball isn't a brand new promotion.  I've read the news article here, this is the second year.  But last years promo is irrelevant to what it is now.  And we are only talking about the Pick 3 and Pick 4 being problematic.

           

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        Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:38 am - IP Logged

         Transparency- it cannot be beat.If you can see those balls dropping and doing what they supposed to do- you have no case.

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          Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:39 am - IP Logged

          Thanks.  My thinking is that if we can rule out that this anomaly didn't occur in August and started coincidentally right when this promo came out we can maybe link it to this promo.  But I am bit more suspicious I will be looking back further than August.  Something is telling me this anomaly occurred in June.

          Actually the way the red ball promo works is that the have 7 balls in a separate machine. After the drawings they bring up a

          ball in the red ball machine. If the red ball pops up they pay double on the winnings. If the red ball doesn't pop up they

          remove that white ball, so the next draw there is only 6 balls. They keep going untill a red ball pops up then they replace

          all the balls that were removed. But since NJ is a paramutual payout, paying double may not be that much.

          Maybe you could check when the last promo was and see if there was anything funny going on then.

          "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

          The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

          Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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            Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:47 am - IP Logged

             Transparency- it cannot be beat.If you can see those balls dropping and doing what they supposed to do- you have no case.

            Disagreed. Those balls are suppose to be drawn in correct sequence. I don't care what no one says. There's a lot of things to consider like the vacuum, etc. but those balls drawn exactly the same time. That's so unusual!

            So tomorrow evening for NJ, it'll happen again and the number that draws will be something bogus like 8877

            It's messing up analysis purposes in my opinion for daily trackers.

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              Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:49 am - IP Logged

               Transparency- it cannot be beat.If you can see those balls dropping and doing what they supposed to do- you have no case.

              It doesn't matter if you can see the balls or not.  The balls are all triggered at the same time.  Normal?  I think not.  But if this is all you have to add to the discussion, I concede your point.  Thank You

                   

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                Disagreed. Those balls are suppose to be drawn in correct sequence. I don't care what no one says. There's a lot of things to consider like the vacuum, etc. but those balls drawn exactly the same time. That's so unusual!

                So tomorrow evening for NJ, it'll happen again and the number that draws will be something bogus like 8877

                It's messing up analysis purposes in my opinion for daily trackers.

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                  Posted: September 6, 2013, 12:51 am - IP Logged

                  Actually the way the red ball promo works is that the have 7 balls in a separate machine. After the drawings they bring up a

                  ball in the red ball machine. If the red ball pops up they pay double on the winnings. If the red ball doesn't pop up they

                  remove that white ball, so the next draw there is only 6 balls. They keep going untill a red ball pops up then they replace

                  all the balls that were removed. But since NJ is a paramutual payout, paying double may not be that much.

                  Maybe you could check when the last promo was and see if there was anything funny going on then.

                  I don't think those videos are available.

                       

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                    Posted: September 6, 2013, 1:08 am - IP Logged

                    I don't think those videos are available.

                    I was just looking at the NJ website, they only go back to 5/13/13. Here in Md you can go way back.

                    "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                    The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

                    Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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                      Posted: September 6, 2013, 1:27 am - IP Logged

                      Almost looks like a test draw video. Anyone email them yet.

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                        No, I will be contacting them tomorrow.  They're not test draws, these are drawings for 4 separate drawings for different days.

                             

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                          Posted: September 6, 2013, 2:04 am - IP Logged

                          It doesn't matter if you can see the balls or not.  The balls are all triggered at the same time.  Normal?  I think not.  But if this is all you have to add to the discussion, I concede your point.  Thank You

                          Chrissy- Did you any chance miss what l posted?- Read again, on second thought l will repeat myself.
                          " If the balls are doing WHAT THEY SUPPOSED TO DO".. if you think they not, well goodluck with that
                          However you cannot disagree with me if the balls are doing what they were intended to do. Is your head spinning from that assessment- l hope not, cause its true.

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                            Posted: September 6, 2013, 2:06 am - IP Logged

                            hy folks,i'm a player also in NJ -i do it almost daily'the only thing strange i noticed is that lately there has been a huge increase in the appearance of doubles -i see doubles showing almost every other day starting with about 2 weeks ago.I DID NOT LOOK AT THE VIDEOS YET so i don't disagree with the topic;actually i will start saving all my loser tickets just in case there is a major fulk up on their part.Thank you.


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                              Posted: September 6, 2013, 3:54 am - IP Logged

                              Todd is from New Jersey. Maybe he can look into it.

                              I agree