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As a Lottery JP winner: Would you " help" your city out if they were on the verge of bankruptcy?

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Posted: February 18, 2014, 4:15 pm - IP Logged

Hey Sully- don't waste your time providing logic, facts and reality. These folks only listen to what the MSM and their Messiah informs them.

LOL where do you get your news? Also what does J.C have to do with politics, LOL Messiah

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    Posted: February 18, 2014, 5:18 pm - IP Logged

    Shelby, same for you, don't waste your time.

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      Kudos for your service...as I did as well with  an honorable discharge on a 6 year commitment.....Is it greedy to sell a product that costs pennies on the dollar and make a bunch ?? Thats called capitolism, its the way it is whether you like it or not..Try making that same product here in the USA and see how much it costs. If you think that they should only make a few pennies profit, well then perhaps you should look at the socialist countries and see how their people are doing, how well their healthcare is..Although I havent seen any of those countries as profitable and charitable as the USA. As far as mega profits are concerned, how much is given to non profit organizations from big business ?? ...That's the beauty of this country, you have an opportunity to make as much or as little as you want. Competition can create success and profits. You have a better idea and a way to make it cheaper and give more money to employess, then have at it....
      Deserve has got nothing to do with it. You deserve what you earn, you don't like it, go to a different & better employer. Redistibution of wealth is NOT what made this country great. Life isn't fair and it's your right to P&M all you want. But until you come up with something that everyone makes the same wages and nobody has any more than anyone else, ya have to take the good with the bad. Companies are in business to make money whether you or I like the amount they make or not. Don't like it ??? Then don't support them by purchasing their products or working for them.

      Best of luck  Patriot

      Back to the topic at hand

      No more bailouts for failed government activities

      Great post CdanaT!  However your logic will never win out over envy and theft in the hearts of man.  Society is based off self interest.  What people can't make they will vote to steal it.  Then direct democracy society moves from gold coins & silver coins as money to fiat paper money in order to steal through inflation. Then you have theft, debt, booms, busts, recessions, depressions, welfare, wars, death, rinse & repeat. 

      Dictatorships don't work for liberty but neither does the voters through direct democracy.  Maybe the corporations will take over once the nations of the world go bankrupt if we don't destroy the world first with nuclear weapons. 

      Anyways good luck tonight all in MegaMillions!

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        Yeah I get the capitalism part and they are free to make as much as they want to but at who's expense? Why wont they make it here where they sell the majority of it? Is it because they dont want to pay a decent living wage? Why? Because it cuts into profit that's why, Is it because they dont want to pay health insurance? Why Because it cuts into their profit that's why. Why as Americans who live here and were born here, why do we have to settle for less? They raise prices on everything but people's salaries, we as Americans dont deserve a wage we can live on? I say no more bailouts for corporations and banks

        They are free to make as much as they can by those who purchase their products. For example, I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. Those people who market those products don't make one stupid dime from me nor do they have my support. Just as I have told you before, don't by the product and it will suffer...(look at the defunct car divisions--Oldsmobile,Plymouth, etc etc)....
         
        Shelby Shelby Shelby......theres more to it than "a decent wage".....and heres the catch all...if you dont feel you  are getting a decent living wage THEN LEAVE, just friggin leave...Improve yourself and get a better paying job. You are not being held hostage, nobody sticks a gun to your head and says"you will work here and only make this much".... If I worked at McDonalds and I wasn't making a "decent living wage" , I have 3 options:
        (1) stay there and continue the status quo...(2) try improve my skills through school/alternative training and go up the corporate ladder..(3) Find another job that does pay a "decent living wage".

        Why is it the employers job to pay for your healthcare ??...Healthcare and 401K contributions are a  luxury, not a right.

        You are right, creating good paying MANUFACTURING jobs with benefits does cost SERIOUS $$$  in the USA..... wages are only a minor issue(see my above statement that your responded to)...Thats why jobs are shipped over seas....AND large profits are made....Would you pay extra for something that doesn't improve your product, after all, the product is what is in demand. Do you honesly care if a plastic bowl is made by a company that pays higher wages. I buy the product for the usage it's intended for and it's cost out of my pocket. Not if Jon Smith is "getting a decent living wage". But you can do that if it's important to you. Gotta love the freedom of choice in the USA.
        I don't by a product at my local grocery store that I can pay half the price at Walmart for the same identical product. I choose to live within my financial means. If I can't afford a $300K house cause I only make $41000/yr. OH WELLLL, I go without until I can save up enough to by that house in that range and live within my means.

        Settle for less ??....You need to check yourself and see what you have in your house vs a majority of the rest of the world. I bet you have excess things that you don't need or use. I know I do 

        You are entitled to everything you work for and can buy....not what "YOU THINK YOU DESERVE"..if you cant afford something because of your wage earning capability, you need to look in the mirror and ask "why do others have and I don't" ?
        Adopt their work ethic, get 2 jobs if you have to.
        I will never have what Bill Gates has, but I will never have his headaches either.

        I do agree with you on the bailouts....They are never too big to fail...

        Last but not least<drumroll please>..As you put it so elegantly.....

        "Now stop with the political crap, we are not going to see eye to eye on it, which really doesnt matter because this is a website about the lottery"

        Patriot

        The end,
        Respectfully submitted,
        CD

        Stay Positive, Believe and good things will come your way

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          Posted: February 18, 2014, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

          Great post CdanaT!  However your logic will never win out over envy and theft in the hearts of man.  Society is based off self interest.  What people can't make they will vote to steal it.  Then direct democracy society moves from gold coins & silver coins as money to fiat paper money in order to steal through inflation. Then you have theft, debt, booms, busts, recessions, depressions, welfare, wars, death, rinse & repeat. 

          Dictatorships don't work for liberty but neither does the voters through direct democracy.  Maybe the corporations will take over once the nations of the world go bankrupt if we don't destroy the world first with nuclear weapons. 

          Anyways good luck tonight all in MegaMillions!

          Thank you vegan.....I also which you much success in tonights drawing and future drawings( Just let me have one)
          Wink

          Stay Positive, Believe and good things will come your way

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            They are free to make as much as they can by those who purchase their products. For example, I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. Those people who market those products don't make one stupid dime from me nor do they have my support. Just as I have told you before, don't by the product and it will suffer...(look at the defunct car divisions--Oldsmobile,Plymouth, etc etc)....
             
            Shelby Shelby Shelby......theres more to it than "a decent wage".....and heres the catch all...if you dont feel you  are getting a decent living wage THEN LEAVE, just friggin leave...Improve yourself and get a better paying job. You are not being held hostage, nobody sticks a gun to your head and says"you will work here and only make this much".... If I worked at McDonalds and I wasn't making a "decent living wage" , I have 3 options:
            (1) stay there and continue the status quo...(2) try improve my skills through school/alternative training and go up the corporate ladder..(3) Find another job that does pay a "decent living wage".

            Why is it the employers job to pay for your healthcare ??...Healthcare and 401K contributions are a  luxury, not a right.

            You are right, creating good paying MANUFACTURING jobs with benefits does cost SERIOUS $$$  in the USA..... wages are only a minor issue(see my above statement that your responded to)...Thats why jobs are shipped over seas....AND large profits are made....Would you pay extra for something that doesn't improve your product, after all, the product is what is in demand. Do you honesly care if a plastic bowl is made by a company that pays higher wages. I buy the product for the usage it's intended for and it's cost out of my pocket. Not if Jon Smith is "getting a decent living wage". But you can do that if it's important to you. Gotta love the freedom of choice in the USA.
            I don't by a product at my local grocery store that I can pay half the price at Walmart for the same identical product. I choose to live within my financial means. If I can't afford a $300K house cause I only make $41000/yr. OH WELLLL, I go without until I can save up enough to by that house in that range and live within my means.

            Settle for less ??....You need to check yourself and see what you have in your house vs a majority of the rest of the world. I bet you have excess things that you don't need or use. I know I do 

            You are entitled to everything you work for and can buy....not what "YOU THINK YOU DESERVE"..if you cant afford something because of your wage earning capability, you need to look in the mirror and ask "why do others have and I don't" ?
            Adopt their work ethic, get 2 jobs if you have to.
            I will never have what Bill Gates has, but I will never have his headaches either.

            I do agree with you on the bailouts....They are never too big to fail...

            Last but not least<drumroll please>..As you put it so elegantly.....

            "Now stop with the political crap, we are not going to see eye to eye on it, which really doesnt matter because this is a website about the lottery"

            Patriot

            The end,
            Respectfully submitted,
            CD

            LOL Ok truce truce CT...We will agree to diagree. I should take my own advice as you quoted back to me let's stop this political crap on a lottery site. I do agree with some of you points as well as disagree with some. Thank you for your intelligent response sir

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              LOL Ok truce truce CT...We will agree to diagree. I should take my own advice as you quoted back to me let's stop this political crap on a lottery site. I do agree with some of you points as well as disagree with some. Thank you for your intelligent response sir

              You are most welcome and best of luck on the MM & PB drawings tonight and tomorrow.Smiley

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                b2b, we've known since you showed up day one!

                You've been biding your time, waiting to push your agenda.

                Who dat be?

                Dat be the B 2 B.

                lol

                J'aime La France.

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                  bigbear29, Shelby Mustang,

                  Let's try this. Years ago Nike was paying wokers in Oregon $8.00 an hour to make shoes.

                  They moved the whole operation out of the country and the $8.00 an hour wage was reduced to about $0.80 a day.

                  Now it gets interesting......they jacked the price of those shoes up when they were sent to the U.S. But who is the culprit here, Nike, or the consumers.....the kids that just had to have the shoes (granted the parents were probably paying for them).

                  Now let's look at cars. If an American buys an mport they pay an excise tax on it. If a wealthy Japanese buys an American car in Japan, they also pay a tax- 100%, the price of the car added to the deal as a tax. We let them do it to us but we don't do it to them, and that's government, not corporations.

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    bigbear29, Shelby Mustang,

                    Let's try this. Years ago Nike was paying wokers in Oregon $8.00 an hour to make shoes.

                    They moved the whole operation out of the country and the $8.00 an hour wage was reduced to about $0.80 a day.

                    Now it gets interesting......they jacked the price of those shoes up when they were sent to the U.S. But who is the culprit here, Nike, or the consumers.....the kids that just had to have the shoes (granted the parents were probably paying for them).

                    Now let's look at cars. If an American buys an mport they pay an excise tax on it. If a wealthy Japanese buys an American car in Japan, they also pay a tax- 100%, the price of the car added to the deal as a tax. We let them do it to us but we don't do it to them, and that's government, not corporations.

                    CT:

                    GOD bless the government if the government ble$$e$$$$$$$$$$$$>>>>>>>>US!!

                    NOTE:

                    printed on D mony>>>>IN GOD WE TRUST>>>> Jack-in-the-Box

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                      Who dat be?

                      Dat be the B 2 B.

                      lol

                      He doesn't want to talk politics, but there he is, pushing the liberal aganda,

                       HyperBe Happy.

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                        Man, this got really, really good,,,wish I had more time to chime!! But, I will. I clearly see where both sides are pushing agendas, and, one of 'em is always picking and choosing what they want out of the Bible to push theirs. No regard for Separation of Church and State (R). This, while the other side (D) uses the being deprived and 'everyone's equal' approach to evrything they introduce...when, in fact, most aren't interested and don't deserve anything.

                        When you become unafraid to expose your own party's corruptness, you are then a free person. Until, you're simply being programmed, every single day, to only fear and hate those that aren't just like you. Fact is, we all have more in common than not because we share the exact same daily issues. Now, let that marinate 'till I can get back.

                         

                        L.L.

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                        There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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                          Sadly, the only agenda i see are people resorting to name calling and insults due to a difference in political views and opinions as well as accusations being made as to the identity of a member and harassing them for it. It's really sad and unfortunate to see adults behaving this way. If one's political comments are gonna be accused of pushing a political agenda, is it not fair then to say everyone who made political comments in this thread was pushing their political agenda as well? There was no political conspiracy to push an agenda, just people having a discussion per the topic which does leave open a political aspect to the answers some may give. It's when others didn't agree with others answers that the true agenda went into full force which was to attack anyone who they disagreed with all because of their intolerance and lack of respect for others views and opinions.  I just don't understand how anyone can feel justified or good about treating people in such a way over the very reasons they are doing it. There is a difference between respectfully having a discussion and disagreeing opposed to being disrespectful because you don't see eye to eye.

                          It's just really sad and only drags this forum down to a level of drama and mentality you see in a preschool sandbox 

                          "Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip, conflict calms down.

                          Like adding charcoal to embers or wood to fire, quarrelsome people kindle strife."

                          Proverbs 26: 20-21

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                            Thank you vegan.....I also which you much success in tonights drawing and future drawings( Just let me have one)
                            Wink

                            This topic is deeper than just the "politics of guilt" that noise-gate brings up or the "bickering" that candlelight is talking.  Voting is the power of theft.  Two votes has the power to steal from the one vote.  Every election your out voted then who cares who is republican, democrat, conservative or liberal.  All you know is that you have been separated from some more of your wealth to pay for someone else against your will. 

                            Remember these two words:  Greed & Theft.   Its not greedy to want to keep what belongs to you.  It is theivery to force at the ballot box what belongs to someone else into your pocket. 

                            Back to the topic of "city bankruptcy".  If somone wanted a best strategy to win a Mayorship i can't think of a better campaign slogan than "SLASH PROPERTY TAXES NOW!".   

                            Keep up the inspiring posts Dana.

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