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Posted: August 11, 2015, 10:34 am - IP Logged

I am a Christian and i think that God has nothing to do with this...HE gave us FREE WILL...we do whatever we want ! and no, gambling is not a sin, if it is, therefore we are doomed, cause every minute we sin in our doings, sayings or thinking !

Besides, we are all gods !

No man is a god, but all men are parcels of "GOD"

We are all children of "GOD"

If only man (and woman) could remember that every waking second.

Then we might have heaven on earth. (not to mention winning a lot more JP!)

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    Posted: August 11, 2015, 11:12 am - IP Logged

    garyo1954,

    "Start by explaining fully human/fully god.

    Never said the Christian doctrine said that, but being born of a human and fathered by a god, what would you call that? Same as the Greeks demi-gods, no?"


    If it has to be explained you don't get it. Ask a priest or a pastor.

    As for the same as a Greek demi-god not even close.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      I believe -- because several times when I r-e-a-l-l-y needed some extra cash, I have won.  And I always give thanks immediately.  One time about 2 yrs ago, I bought a $20 ticket at grocery store, the lady said, you should have been here 20 minutes earlier,  the last ticket before yours won $10,000.  While my heart sank "just a tad", I immediately thought of the times I "needed" extra money and won something special, whether it was $100 or $500.  So I said that lady needed a blessing more than I today.  God bless her!

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        Posted: August 11, 2015, 12:08 pm - IP Logged

        I believe, God has everything to do with it. I invite him in to all part of my life. Including when I play the lottery, I asks for him to guide me. I tithe from whatever I won. I give thanks for even before I receive it, Then thanks again when I receive. Then when I use the money, I say a prayer for the people who are about to receive it , for everybody that come in contact with the money, that they maybe blessed also.

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          Posted: August 11, 2015, 1:18 pm - IP Logged

          God (insert yours here) does not care at all who wins any Game.  That should have ended this conversation instead of drifting into a discussions about the basis or merits of the religions thrown into this mix (mess).   

          From the "God Created everything" point of view, Random was his creation.  To control Random would be a contradiction.  I think God may the only true Random Source in the Universe.  It explains why both favor and hardship are faced by all beliefs.  Most discussions about favor or hardship begin with WHY and evolve into a Religious debate.  Beliefs are the Systems used to cope with the event(s).  It looks to me like God lets Random be itself and is there for Believers after the fact. 

          WOW, I just got sucked into the mix(mess).

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            Posted: August 11, 2015, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

            he  who  seeks lottery  winnings and  pray  for  materialistic  things   weep

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              Posted: August 11, 2015, 1:40 pm - IP Logged

              spirit  is  within  u,  your  the  god  and control  your  destiny only  u  no  thing  or  no  one  else,

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                Posted: August 11, 2015, 3:09 pm - IP Logged

                if any gods are involved with me, its the mischeivious  greek style, you know the ones that will hacve my winning numbers, the day i dont play em. or 1 number off of ea. winning number. or a  gust of wind  snatches the winning ticket from my hand outside the lotto office, and i run under a bus chasing it. that sort of god

                You probably thinking of Loki huh SG?

                People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                  Posted: August 11, 2015, 3:16 pm - IP Logged

                  I think that it has to do with one's internal and external forces. One's belief and one's timing is the main driver of whether you hit or not. People who believe in God hit the jackpot and so do Atheists, rapist, murderers, child abusers, homeless people, cheaters, etc. I think most of the time it has to do with being at the right time and the right place.

                  Being at the right place & time is a fair assessment. You mentioned " One's belief & one's timing" which raises another question: Let's say you prayed fervently last night to win tonight, after the balls settle down,  you find out that you are the Sole winner of the MM jackpot, did your god answer your prayers Jack?

                  People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                    Posted: August 11, 2015, 3:21 pm - IP Logged

                    Fair enough.

                    However if you want to consider the Hindu Pantheon, I think you will stir up a lot of controversy considering that some Hindus may pray to Krishna, for a lottery win,

                    while other pray to Vishnu, for a lottery, win, others might pray to Ganesh for a lottery win. 

                    So which Hindu god has the "higher power"?

                    Me personally?  Of course I think God has something to do with it.  I cant judge others, muderers, pedophiles etc. right to win.  All I can do is pray that they use the 

                    money and power wisely, for good and not evil.

                    When it comes to God, I dont think you can "think" there is a higher power.  You have to "know" there is a higher power.  God helps those who pray knowingly, more 

                    so then those who pray thinkingly.

                    Yes you are right.  I suppose my question could be considered moot.  I will take my tin kitty toys and go sit in the corner. 

                    Is there a "Higher Power" with me in that corner?

                    Personally,  l don't think it's such a big deal with Hindus,  if you claim one answered your prayers,  you claiming all the others as well . It's a very" related" religion since they have millions of gods.

                    People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                      Posted: August 11, 2015, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

                      Has anyone ever heard of the subconscious mind ? you'd be surprised the things that you can do when you get in touch with it. It doesn't care if you are black,white, poor, rich, good or bad, you simply need to know how to use it. Again, we are little gods, but our little minds refuse to accept it ! i have a good knowledge of hypnosis and dreams and won many times using this and it works, a couple of days ago i won with 5679 in Ontario, this is after  i did my morning meditation. God gave us this great tool but no one wants to learn how to use it properly, or they don't believe. BTW, did you know that you can program dreams, and get answers to them fast ? google this subject, it works...i know a thing or two in this, believe me !

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                        Has anyone ever heard of the subconscious mind ? you'd be surprised the things that you can do when you get in touch with it. It doesn't care if you are black,white, poor, rich, good or bad, you simply need to know how to use it. Again, we are little gods, but our little minds refuse to accept it ! i have a good knowledge of hypnosis and dreams and won many times using this and it works, a couple of days ago i won with 5679 in Ontario, this is after  i did my morning meditation. God gave us this great tool but no one wants to learn how to use it properly, or they don't believe. BTW, did you know that you can program dreams, and get answers to them fast ? google this subject, it works...i know a thing or two in this, believe me !

                        Your hypnosis and dreams would pale in comparison to.....

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                        People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                          Posted: August 12, 2015, 12:54 am - IP Logged

                           Ha! Atheists come out of the woodwork after Ridge is gone!

                           Oh well...

                           Can I come out too? XD

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                            Feel free to continue. I've have the unfortunate problem of never seeing that in the Bible. So if you have the book, chapter and verse, I'd appreciate it.

                            Spent a lot of time with pastors, a few priests. Used to go sit with a Southern Baptist minister, on his porch, and talk about God and life and the bible for hours. Even at 85 he couldn't explain half the inconsistencies in had found in his lifetime. Maybe you have. Or maybe you only know what you were told by the they.

                            But as the OP admitted this belongs in a Christian forum since no everybody here is Christian and accepts the idea of his god.

                            I don't put restrictions on my god. He blesses good people of every culture, creed, race, religion, or what have you.

                            My greatest accomplishment is teaching cats about Vienna Sausage. When I need a friend, all I need do is walk outside, pop open a can, and every little critter in the neighborhood drops by to say "Hi!"

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                              Posted: August 12, 2015, 3:15 am - IP Logged

                              As an atheist I can say: It's nothing but pure luck. No karma is controlling who will win.

                              If there really was a god or karma involved in controlling who would win, would it let criminals and pedophiles win?

                              "would it let criminals and pedophiles win?"

                              Perhaps you've heard the expression that "god works in mysterious ways"? If you pay attention to many of the things attributed to various gods by their believers it should be obvious that many gods are apparently psychopaths. Letting pedophiles win the lottery is the least of the mysteries.

                                 
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