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Posted: June 4, 2006, 3:43 am - IP Logged

Rip Snorter

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"The case of a guy named Alonzo comes to mind. He announced he'd beaten the lottery code, as he dubbed it. He was vilified for days by the users of the systems forum, many of whom are still here.

So he answered their challenge. Several hours before the MM draw he posted 17 numbers which would include all the balls that would hit that night on MM. And a red ball. Four of the whites and the red hit"


Well Alonzo Had A system, And He Proved It. Beyond A shadow Of Doubt.


Any guess why he choose not to share his system???????

Where Is This Alonzo Now?? He is A multi-Millionaire enjoying the good life, Laughing at You Punks, here at Lottery Post.


Can any one get in contact with him?

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    Let me tell you people something.

    Alonzo had a winning system, it was not a fluke.

    How many Fruit Cakes here have a system, that can be proven the way Alonzo Proved His??????????????????????


    Why he did not share this?? If He Did, He Would Have Made All You Fruit Cakes in to Millionaires, and maybe shut the lottery down.


    Who was Alonzo?? What was his profile?? is it still in the data base at lottery post?

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      If I was Around then.

      I would have wheeled and played his 17 numbers.


      Why did you people Harrassed this Guy?

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        If I was Around then.

        I would have wheeled and played his 17 numbers.


        Why did you people Harrassed this Guy?

         Let me tell you people something.

        Alonzo had a winning system, it was not a fluke.

        How many Fruit Cakes here have a system, that can be proven the way Alonzo Proved His??????????????????????

         

        Winner 1313:

        Alonzo probably did have a system that worked.  I don't agree it's certain, but I think the evidence weighs in his favor.

        When he began posting about it, my impression was (and continues to be) that he intended to share it.  He came onto the systems forum looking for some help and guidance in making it easier insofar as computers.  He evidently was doing it by hand.

        I think the reason he didn't share it was based on the way he was treated by the folks on the systems forum.

        How many Fruit Cakes here have a system, that can be proven the way Alonzo Proved His??????????????????????

        There's no way of knowing how many have a system as good as Alonzos.  I suspect several are working in the direction of developing one.

        Where Is This Alonzo Now?? He is A multi-Millionaire enjoying the good life, Laughing at You Punks, here at Lottery Post.

         He might be a millionaire.  Or he mightn't.  I hope he is.  But Alonzo was a nice guy.  He came across as having a tender nature and a good heart.  I suspect he's not enough of an idiot to sit around thinking about people at lottery post.  He's certainly not enough of one to call them fruitcakes.

        They laughed at him and ridiculed him.  But he's gone and they're still here.  He was probably right, and they were certainly wrong, whether he was or not.

        So who the hell are you to say anything at all about it if you weren't here? 

        Jack

         

         

         

        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

        It's about number behavior.

        Egos don't count.

         

        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

         

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          Posted: June 4, 2006, 7:16 am - IP Logged

          Let me tell you people something.

          Alonzo had a winning system, it was not a fluke.

          How many Fruit Cakes here have a system, that can be proven the way Alonzo Proved His??????????????????????


          Why he did not share this?? If He Did, He Would Have Made All You Fruit Cakes in to Millionaires, and maybe shut the lottery down.


          Who was Alonzo?? What was his profile?? is it still in the data base at lottery post?

          If you'd like to change that 'you fruitcakes' to 'we fruitcakes' (you are here on Lottery Post) I probably wouldn't take exception to it.

          I don't think there are any others on LP, but you and I both qualify.

          You're a member.  Search the database and get some answers on your own.  Nothing to keep you from using your head for something besides a muscle.

          I hope you're right about Alonzo being a multi-millionaire.  I believe he had a system and that it worked.  By demonstrating it to the extent he did, his accomplishment has been a source of strength for me in my own searches, an affirmation that it can probably be done.

          Alonzo called himself Big Looser.  He was a winner.  You call yourself Winner.....  Wonder why people pick nicknames to describe the opposite of what they actually are.  Strange folks, us humans.

          Jack

           

          Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

          It's about number behavior.

          Egos don't count.

           

          Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

           

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            A code begins with a message, a formula, something that is converted into the code to be deciphered by someone who holds the key at the other end.

            To crack a code, to obtain the key, there has to be an original message or it can't be cracked because there is nothing to be found in the cracking of it. 

            The lottery is random or semi-random number generation.  It isn't like the lottery is sending us hidden messages.  Not that they aren't to be found, the million monkeys banging away at typewriters thing will eventually produce something that reads like a message.  Like the word randomizer some spammers use to make spam look like it includes a message.

            Anyway, trying to determine a seed for the random number generation would be more possible then looking for hidden messages.  Like I said, patterns exist, they aren't messages, but in cracking a code one looks for repeating patterns to test keys against.

            I don't just parrot stuff someone told me, I've given it thought or I don't offer an opinion.  BobP

            Anyway, trying to determine a seed for the random number generation would be more possible then looking for hidden messages.  Like I said, patterns exist, they aren't messages, but in cracking a code one looks for repeating patterns to test keys against.

            I don't just parrot stuff someone told me, I've given it thought or I don't offer an opinion.  BobP

            Bob:

            I think you've read more into some of my posts in the past than I should have put there. 

            I don't discount the possibility the number behaviors carry a message.  Occasionally I think they might, other times I believe one particular sequence that appears to carry a message is mere repeated coincidence.

            I do, however, believe there's sufficient body of hard evidence to be found in the draw histories to support the premise that random number behavior is more nearly a 'fixed' phenomenon than can be accounted for in your analogy about occurance being merely a set of repeated random patterns showing up on pingpong balls with numbers painted on them.

            Today I've posted two sets of predictions for Washington Keno and Quebec Banco.  Each involves fewer than 50 lines.

            The Washington Keno set was derived from a bare-bones assumption of a direct relationship between lunar phases and historical (and future) man-made attempts to force numbers to behave randomly.  The method used is a new one (for me) and completely untried.

            I have no idea how it will fall out.  If it's a bust, I doubt I'll resign myself to believing there's not relationship between the two. 

            The Quebec Banco set was derived using the same basic methods as the Washington set, but with times of sunrise, sunset, moonrise and moonset thrown into the mix.

            I've never tried this one before, either.

            The data, information and methods used are all available to premium LP members, with the exception of moonrise/moonset/sunrise/sunset data, which can be found elsewhere in the web.  The same methods with a bit of tweaking would be easily adaptable to pick 5 and pick 6.

            Each of these sets of numbers use data available months and years ago.... the two 50 lines sets for June 3, 2006, could have as easily been compiled December, 2005, as any time since. 

            If these methods as manifested in this +-100 lines of numbers fail to demonstrate any relationship between random number behavior and the external, apparently unrelated phenomena, it's just another bug on the windshield of exploration for me.

            However, should outcomes of the draws on those two keno games rhyme measurably with the predictions, maybe the paint on those numbers they put on pingpong balls hasn't dried too much to allow you to give it some more thought.

            Jack


            The Lunar-phase/numbers history test:

            Those Washington Keno predictions yesterday hit 5 out of a pool of 14 number picks on a 20 number draw. Not enough to rattle any belief systems, but enough to re-affirm to me it's worth some more work to get a clearer answer. It's a 20/80 game. You math folks can probably compute some odds on that if you feel moved.

            The Quebec Banco picks, compiled by the same method, but with sunrise/sunset/moonrise/moonset times mixed in, got no hits, as a person would expect.

            Jack

            Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

            It's about number behavior.

            Egos don't count.

             

            Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

             


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              As long as they pre-test and rotate the tubes, successful forecasting or breaking anything resembling a code will prove futile.

              I've said this over and over here at the LP. I'm nowhere close to being a math wiz, but I can guarantee you that if they left those damn machines alone, I'd win much more often. Period.

              The reason that most of the time, an overdue number doesn't come out when it should, is because of the above statements. I could do wonders if the overdue numbers (In the p-3) came out when they should.

              A great example would be of a book I purchased a while back. The author's last name is Koycerin. I'm still having problems understanding his method, but it's a very interesting read about Random Number Displacement, and how to take advantage of it, by recognizing when RND occurs. He claims he and many people use it everyday at the casinos to make a very nice living.

              Since I can't fully understand it, I might just take the time to type out the whole thing here so someone can decipher his explanation. Or, I could go out and by a scanner and make my life easier.....LOL

              I've been all over the internet trying to find more info on this guy, but that attempt also seems to be futile.

              The book is called "The Koycerin Method".

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                O.K then.....I guess alonzo was incredible....I wasn't here so i can't say...

                Pacathack05 men, you nailed it, you took the words out of my mouth..."if they only left those damn machines/pre-tests alone, people would win more often"....Someone ought to sue the state for that..you are going to tell me that they are going to do pre-test for until the numbers fall in the random guidelines...that's cheating..Only because the state collects 50% (or whatever digit) do they have to do that i say...

                Men!! I keep hearing about cold numbers, hot numbers and overdue numbers

                Pacathack i am very interest in your system. think you could email it to me? I'll appreciate it..see if i could understand it..

                 

                 

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                  As long as they pre-test and rotate the tubes, successful forecasting or breaking anything resembling a code will prove futile.

                  I've said this over and over here at the LP. I'm nowhere close to being a math wiz, but I can guarantee you that if they left those damn machines alone, I'd win much more often. Period.

                  The reason that most of the time, an overdue number doesn't come out when it should, is because of the above statements. I could do wonders if the overdue numbers (In the p-3) came out when they should.

                  A great example would be of a book I purchased a while back. The author's last name is Koycerin. I'm still having problems understanding his method, but it's a very interesting read about Random Number Displacement, and how to take advantage of it, by recognizing when RND occurs. He claims he and many people use it everyday at the casinos to make a very nice living.

                  Since I can't fully understand it, I might just take the time to type out the whole thing here so someone can decipher his explanation. Or, I could go out and by a scanner and make my life easier.....LOL

                  I've been all over the internet trying to find more info on this guy, but that attempt also seems to be futile.

                  The book is called "The Koycerin Method".

                  As long as they pre-test and rotate the tubes, successful forecasting or breaking anything resembling a code will prove futile.

                  Heck, Pac,

                  I'm sorry to see you say that.  You saying it one more time that way might just be enough to kick it over the edge and make it fact, instead of merely opinion with a heavy vote-count.

                  However, you're a smart puppy and don't always echo the party line.  I hope you'll think about this a moment and give me a straight answer.

                  What sort of evidence would it take to convince you this particular opinion you hold is full of holes?  I'd be interested in reading an answer from you on that because I sense you have a brain.

                  J

                  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                  It's about number behavior.

                  Egos don't count.

                   

                  Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                   

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                    Right now i am talking to a guy who said he invented a system that doesn't promises to win the jackpot but can come close. I am still having problems understanding him though...He says that all you have to do is to pick your number and he will arrange it for you. The way he arranges the numbers is a secret...
                        What i am interested in is hot and cold numbers and how the behave in the lottery even if is only in Rng simulations...
                        If i was millionaire i would try and bribe governments....


                    "keno is "el diablo cazador de hombres"..........you can't see it........and it skins them...."          from movie "Predator.."

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                      Right now i am talking to a guy who said he invented a system that doesn't promises to win the jackpot but can come close. I am still having problems understanding him though...He says that all you have to do is to pick your number and he will arrange it for you. The way he arranges the numbers is a secret...
                          What i am interested in is hot and cold numbers and how the behave in the lottery even if is only in Rng simulations...
                          If i was millionaire i would try and bribe governments....


                      "keno is "el diablo cazador de hombres"..........you can't see it........and it skins them...."          from movie "Predator.."

                      Probably the guy can't think of any numbers, so he needs some help with it.

                      17, 19, 22, 43, 47 -36

                      Next Powerball draw.

                      Remember where you heard it.  Tell him I'll give him 10 percent of the winnings..... no, 5 percent.

                      Glad to be of assistance.

                      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                      It's about number behavior.

                      Egos don't count.

                       

                      Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                       


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                        As long as they pre-test and rotate the tubes, successful forecasting or breaking anything resembling a code will prove futile.

                        I've said this over and over here at the LP. I'm nowhere close to being a math wiz, but I can guarantee you that if they left those damn machines alone, I'd win much more often. Period.

                        The reason that most of the time, an overdue number doesn't come out when it should, is because of the above statements. I could do wonders if the overdue numbers (In the p-3) came out when they should.

                        A great example would be of a book I purchased a while back. The author's last name is Koycerin. I'm still having problems understanding his method, but it's a very interesting read about Random Number Displacement, and how to take advantage of it, by recognizing when RND occurs. He claims he and many people use it everyday at the casinos to make a very nice living.

                        Since I can't fully understand it, I might just take the time to type out the whole thing here so someone can decipher his explanation. Or, I could go out and by a scanner and make my life easier.....LOL

                        I've been all over the internet trying to find more info on this guy, but that attempt also seems to be futile.

                        The book is called "The Koycerin Method".

                        As long as they pre-test and rotate the tubes, successful forecasting or breaking anything resembling a code will prove futile.

                        Heck, Pac,

                        I'm sorry to see you say that.  You saying it one more time that way might just be enough to kick it over the edge and make it fact, instead of merely opinion with a heavy vote-count.

                        However, you're a smart puppy and don't always echo the party line.  I hope you'll think about this a moment and give me a straight answer.

                        What sort of evidence would it take to convince you this particular opinion you hold is full of holes?  I'd be interested in reading an answer from you on that because I sense you have a brain.

                        J

                        Hey Rip,

                        I don't think I understand your question.


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                          O.K then.....I guess alonzo was incredible....I wasn't here so i can't say...

                          Pacathack05 men, you nailed it, you took the words out of my mouth..."if they only left those damn machines/pre-tests alone, people would win more often"....Someone ought to sue the state for that..you are going to tell me that they are going to do pre-test for until the numbers fall in the random guidelines...that's cheating..Only because the state collects 50% (or whatever digit) do they have to do that i say...

                          Men!! I keep hearing about cold numbers, hot numbers and overdue numbers

                          Pacathack i am very interest in your system. think you could email it to me? I'll appreciate it..see if i could understand it..

                           

                           

                          Sorry, but the Type of PDF file he sent doesen't allow copy and paste. Not to mention that It's illegal to do so.

                          I'm having a couple of people working on a program that will update the numbers daily. I'll let everyone know the outcome.


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                            Rip......

                            I don't have any evidence because I've never been given an opportunity to test It, considering the lotteries rotate their tubes. There was a time, I believe, when New York revealed their rotation schedule, but at that time I was in the beginning stages of studying the numbers, and didn't really make that an objective consideration.

                            I firmly believe that old saying is true. "It's just a matter of time". More often than not, a tube full of balls ranging from 0 to 9 have to abide to the rules of chaos, however, those rules are limited by it's surrounding. I believe those limits allow a more even distribution of numbers from 0 to 9. If I knew the position for the next day's drawing, I could better decide what the outcome is.

                            I read an article in NY a few years ago, in which a confession was made by the lottery authorities claiming that the reason they rotate is because they wanted to make sure no patterns could develop.

                            I had so many debates with "college brainers" who were taught alot about chaos, and they all seemed to know the answers to the universe, including number behavior. Or so they thought. It was like talking to a brick wall. They were brain washed by the same "old school" beliefs that were crammed down their throats, by so called academia. They were taught that the numbers don't have a mind of their own, so they can't remember what the last winning numbers were, and therefore it's total chaos, and can't be predicted. I tried to tell them that yes, they are correct when talking about the long run, but there are short term patterns and trends. When that didn't fly, I finally showed the article I read about the officials confessing as to why they rotate, and of course the discussion ended right there. But like most humans, saving face was more important to them than admitting that something is definitely going on. Oh well....No converts there.

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                              Let me tell you people something.

                              Alonzo had a winning system, it was not a fluke.

                              How many Fruit Cakes here have a system, that can be proven the way Alonzo Proved His??????????????????????


                              Why he did not share this?? If He Did, He Would Have Made All You Fruit Cakes in to Millionaires, and maybe shut the lottery down.


                              Who was Alonzo?? What was his profile?? is it still in the data base at lottery post?



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                              (and it got, complicated & hard 2-explain, as I......................RECALL)

                              He gave all a good run with Mega-Mill,,,,,,,,but he lived in the state of

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                              he could have bought tickets on line ..........had otherssss buy for him

                              or traveled a lol as, I think...............he did????????????????????????

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