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Posted: March 25, 2007, 11:40 pm - IP Logged

This thread has been going on all day.
She/he specified what he/she was looking at. Got us guessing what the whole thing is about here with his/her last post. Going to come back later with more detail I reckon.

Could just as well posted a description of what he/she is talking about to begin with.

I wish I knew why people start threads like this. It's ridiculous. First you got nay sayers that come onto a lottery forum saying "The lottery is impossible to win!!! You're wasting your money!!!". Then you got guys like this that claim they discovered one of the biggest mysteries of the universe but provide no information that backs it up. This thread is 8 pages long and this guy still hasn't given us any info about how or what this thing is. I wish they would just stop.

Gonna win.Big Smile

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    Posted: March 25, 2007, 11:53 pm - IP Logged

    " All that is required are the eyes, a number (the more the better) of previously-drawn genuinely-random digits in three or more columns and a brain (I wish I had one of those. Unhappy)"

    Well you specified what it was about.

    Have a nice day.

    It has been interesting.

    Any one have an emoticon of someone wanking a chain?

    no    will this do??

     

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      I wish I knew why people start threads like this. It's ridiculous. First you got nay sayers that come onto a lottery forum saying "The lottery is impossible to win!!! You're wasting your money!!!". Then you got guys like this that claim they discovered one of the biggest mysteries of the universe but provide no information that backs it up. This thread is 8 pages long and this guy still hasn't given us any info about how or what this thing is. I wish they would just stop.

      Maybe this is a prelude to the another introduction of some software that synchronizes with randomness to pick lottery numbers.  I remember a similar discussion three years ago that a lot of members thought made sense.

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        RJ, we are wasting our time, we have clowns seemingly every 10 days or so posting claims they can't back up, just as we have clowns posting about every week stating 'the lottery is impossible to win', so I have NO idea how 'anyone' wins it if it is impossible to win..

        However, I think it's entirely possible to keep some stats and point yourself in a direction to make some pretty decent choices, but still, you must have LUCK in picking those right combinations...

        The kicker now is we have a clown posting on one thread that the lottery is impossible to win, but yet the same guy asks on another forum asking for more background on number selection... LOL 

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          Posted: March 26, 2007, 12:42 am - IP Logged

          My $0.02:

          "Genuinely Random" is just what it sounds like. You can't predict that. There's no such thing in my opinion. Most our systems are based on that physical events on a naked-eye level are NOT totally random. RNGs that some drawings use are possibly based on White Noise as is the RNG in the Lottery Terminal used for QP. A sample of the volume (or whatever) of the noise is taken at the instant a button is pressed and a microscopic deviation in that timing will mean a very different number. Even if the white noise is not completely random the timing deviation would make it extremely close. For this very reason, if the person in front of you in line wins Powerball on a QP, in all likelihood if he/she were not there the agent would have hit the button at a very slightly difference in timing and your QP would not be anywhere close. It is for one reason that RNG are so close to perfect random that players who use systems don't like it (the other reaon that RNG could be more easily FIXED or MALFUNCTION!)

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            Maybe this is a prelude to the another introduction of some software that synchronizes with randomness to pick lottery numbers.  I remember a similar discussion three years ago that a lot of members thought made sense.

            Yes, that has been a waste of money and time, that principle is more or less sound, but perhaps not in that particular way as is used by that program, but it is hard to tell, as it has been applied to jackpot kind of games and hardly anything can work right for them.

            Something like that has a much better chance of working for pick 3 and 4 games.

            But I guess that that person never thought about that.

            Not that there is nothing at all that can be done for or about jackpot games prediction, but few people would know how and fewer yet could implement what they knew, as very few people can program. 

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              Posted: March 26, 2007, 2:29 am - IP Logged

              Sorry, but I have to make a very educated "Prediction":

              I predict that nobody will be able to prove that they themselves can predict lottery winning numbers down to 1 winning number, for a particular set draw and game all of the time, that is every single time without ever failing.

              And I am of course not talking about all state predictions and or making a prediction that will be good for the next few days or week(s) and or months or even years.

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              But for one state, one particular daily draw and one set date and time.

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              Somebody please prove me wrong about that prediction and the sooner the better.

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                Posted: March 26, 2007, 4:17 am - IP Logged

                Lantern, Lary, I agree with both of ya.

                All we can do is make educated guesses based on past history and hope our guesses are extremely lucky.

                That said, if the winning numbers are 3-4-25-40-50 PB 12, we can have 3-4-26-41-51 PB 10, and we are still losers, 'close' don't matter... all we can do is try to put ourselves in a better position to possibly win... 

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                  RJ, we are wasting our time, we have clowns seemingly every 10 days or so posting claims they can't back up, just as we have clowns posting about every week stating 'the lottery is impossible to win', so I have NO idea how 'anyone' wins it if it is impossible to win..

                  However, I think it's entirely possible to keep some stats and point yourself in a direction to make some pretty decent choices, but still, you must have LUCK in picking those right combinations...

                  The kicker now is we have a clown posting on one thread that the lottery is impossible to win, but yet the same guy asks on another forum asking for more background on number selection... LOL 

                  Once everything that makes sense has been posted, what is left to get people interest?  Judging from the number of responses in such a short period of time this thread certainly did get a lot of interest. 

                  I think there will always be someone starting a similar thread challenging anyone to come forward and prove they actually won a lottery jackpot or came close several times and explain their strategy thus saving them the time and work of developing one themselves.

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                    Posted: March 26, 2007, 2:28 pm - IP Logged

                    "Judging from the number of responses in such a short period of time this thread certainly did get a lot of interest. "

                    I agree. I think grumble may deserve some kind of award for the best troll I can remember ever seeing here. 

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                      I once, like 6 years ago, i won twice the Virginia's Cash5, but on paper (meaning theoretically)...I didn't play the numbers because i didn't live in Va...Those days, I would say to myself "this is what's going to play" and i will wait the next day for the results (i was using Lottery Director back then, the free one)...And i matched it twice i think it was on the same week...I don't know how i did it, i didn't replicated it again but i think i could have if i wanted, for i created a very smart wheel but the problem was that it took a lot of combinations and it was only for Va's Cash5 (But you couldn't construct that wheel again because Lottery Director is not the same software it used to be)....And almost 1 and 1/2 years later i was experimenting with Fla's pick3 & Keno...Up to this day i question myself how i did it....With Fla's pick3 i would take the difference between the previous draws and what would play and the difference will give me what will play next...And EVERYTIME I did this experiment, i WILL sucessfully predict what was going to play STRAIGHT and not boxed...Not only will i take the difference between the previous number and what play, but i will subtract in a "T" form and a "L" form and i WILL get the numbers correct "STRAIGHT" and not box...i was able to do this for like 2 weeks, and i later abandoned the experiment...This experiments will make me crazy, they will speed my mind and make me extremely paranoid and i was going crazy (the movie "A beautiful mind") is a good example of what was happening to me....And then like 3 months later i did experiments with keno...back then i didn't know how to play keno...I thought you had to match 20 numbers....I don't know what i did, I think i took the previous draw and subtracted the numbers as if it was from right to left and not left to right...The thing was that i predicted one time 17 numbers of the 20 numbers that play for Keno...And you only needed 10....I don't know what keno it was....But after that strained period i went crazy...And i really mean i went crazy, for i check in on a psychiatric institution and they diagnos me with a condition....Up to this day i question how i did what i did....It was during that time that i was able to contemplate the most beautiful woman i've seen in my life and perhaps this world, named "Laura Simpson".....

                       

                       

                      "Laura Simpson from Great Lakes, Illinois deserves to be rich...."          "She is so rare...."

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                        I once, like 6 years ago, i won twice the Virginia's Cash5, but on paper (meaning theoretically)...I didn't play the numbers because i didn't live in Va...Those days, I would say to myself "this is what's going to play" and i will wait the next day for the results (i was using Lottery Director back then, the free one)...And i matched it twice i think it was on the same week...I don't know how i did it, i didn't replicated it again but i think i could have if i wanted, for i created a very smart wheel but the problem was that it took a lot of combinations and it was only for Va's Cash5 (But you couldn't construct that wheel again because Lottery Director is not the same software it used to be)....And almost 1 and 1/2 years later i was experimenting with Fla's pick3 & Keno...Up to this day i question myself how i did it....With Fla's pick3 i would take the difference between the previous draws and what would play and the difference will give me what will play next...And EVERYTIME I did this experiment, i WILL sucessfully predict what was going to play STRAIGHT and not boxed...Not only will i take the difference between the previous number and what play, but i will subtract in a "T" form and a "L" form and i WILL get the numbers correct "STRAIGHT" and not box...i was able to do this for like 2 weeks, and i later abandoned the experiment...This experiments will make me crazy, they will speed my mind and make me extremely paranoid and i was going crazy (the movie "A beautiful mind") is a good example of what was happening to me....And then like 3 months later i did experiments with keno...back then i didn't know how to play keno...I thought you had to match 20 numbers....I don't know what i did, I think i took the previous draw and subtracted the numbers as if it was from right to left and not left to right...The thing was that i predicted one time 17 numbers of the 20 numbers that play for Keno...And you only needed 10....I don't know what keno it was....But after that strained period i went crazy...And i really mean i went crazy, for i check in on a psychiatric institution and they diagnos me with a condition....Up to this day i question how i did what i did....It was during that time that i was able to contemplate the most beautiful woman i've seen in my life and perhaps this world, named "Laura Simpson".....

                         

                         

                        "Laura Simpson from Great Lakes, Illinois deserves to be rich...."          "She is so rare...."

                        And during this time, like my ear would get so jittery (sort of ed) and i would i heard stuff i shouldn't hear and saw things i shouldn't see (nothing bad, but detrimental to me)....And i would ask myself "what are the odds".....A movie that resembles what i experience was the movie "the Event Horizon", where people will experience things so detrimental that they will go crazy....And i did went crazy...And like 2 months later after i checked in into the psychiatric evaluation (i was evaluated but wasn't taking medication until 1 month later), i was doing experiment with pick6 and i was looking at what i call "numbers foot print"....Where each number will be like a different foot print and the foot print will jump from draw to draw...And this experiment made me more crazy & paranoid...All this happened in the military, and i was later but in jail for 3 months for fighting with a guy (and that made me even more crazy...) (the paranoia drove me to fight with a guy)....Laura Simpson worked in the Navy Federal Credit Union in Great Lakes, Illinois And that's how i saw who she was.....

                        When i think about that stuff sometimes, i can sleep but i have trouble sleeping...

                         

                         

                        "Laura Simpson from Federal Credit Union in Great Lakes, Illinois deserves to be rich..."          "She is so rare...."

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                          "Judging from the number of responses in such a short period of time this thread certainly did get a lot of interest. "

                          I agree. I think grumble may deserve some kind of award for the best troll I can remember ever seeing here. 

                          Guru and myself thought this pages ago.

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                            Its a timing thing, My predictions are ahead of the draw, so if it comes out the day I predict it great.

                            But seldom, But they do come , its just when,

                            so my answer is

                            No.

                            But you can give it a good educated guess,

                            It's easy to assume that eventually any 3 digit number will come out and even after it fails 200 or 300 straight draws, it can still be profitable until the 500th draw. Most people don't want to wait that long and wouldn't give much credibility to a system that predicts that a number "should" come out within the next 300 draws. In Ohio, 023 hasn't been seen since January 7, 1984 (over 9500 draws) so the timing there would be when to begin playing it or when to stop.

                            The same can be said about a system that predicts a different 3 digit number every draw so timing is very important and the sooner the better.

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                              What are his options?

                              I am not an excell programmer.

                              If you are an excell programmer work at the programming formula until you get it right.

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