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Posted: March 26, 2007, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

Hello there everyone.

I was only going to check in long enough to tell all of you that I had not skipped town and that I was still working on the thing and was not finished with it.

But having come back here I have an uncomfortable feeling that you might be thinking that I am just stringing you along by making all of you wait and extra day or two.

I was wanting to do this up right and reveal as much to you in the way of details as I can comfortably afford to do. I also don't want to make any mistakes by rushing it. That seems only logical to me. I also wanted to describe the circumstances surrounding the moment of finding it and other things too.

I want all of you to know that I am absolutely not stringing any of you along. I also want the owner(s), webmaster, forum moderator(s), etc. to know that I have too much respect for this website to do any of that kind of thing.

Look, I don't think that I should have to feel any extra pressure from needing a couple of days to get my thoughts in order -- but at the same time I understand completely that the longer I go without posting it the worse I look.

So I'll post it by tomorrow night at the latest whether its finished or not.

Regards.


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    Blue Angel

    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/153503

     

    Has a system, looking for a good programer.  

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      Hi pumpi76.

      I don't use software or a computer. 

      This phenomenon can be perceived without software.

      All that is required are the eyes, a number (the more the better) of previously-drawn genuinely-random digits in three or more columns and a brain (I wish I had one of those. Unhappy)

      That's not to say that the phenomenon could not be integrated into a software but I cannot even formulate ideas about that -- but software is not needed.

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      I'm going to go out on a limb and tell you that I get the feeling that the really "big games" where the odds are just too stupendous to win can be predicted every time as well (based on what I am able to perceive with this phenomenon).

      CAUTION: I am not saying that it is so -- only that I get the feeling that those games might have the capacity to accomodate the same phenomenon.

      I disagree...I think you will need a software to go through all the combinations and calculate them, but when i mean all combinations i mean all...YOu might/may not need a software for pick3/4 but you will need a software for pick5/6...There are too many combinations...

       

       

       

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        if someone cann't do the following Supercomputers will be able to do them... 

        Example of footprint or what i call a random walk...Imagine that you enumerated/list the draws from 1 to 100...And let's take some sample draws; sucessive sample draws...You would notice for example that 1 (or any numbers, we are just using 1 for the sake of it) first appear in the draw number 1, then in draw number 7, then in draw number 22 and so on..Is not only 1 but all the numbers (the total range)...YOu are listing in which draws each number will appear and after taking note of each draw the numbers appear (or step), you will notice that each number sort of "walks"and if you can find the pattern in this number "walks" you can hit the game as often as you wish and with less combinations (you can even hit the game with 1 combination if you are a genius and find the pattern).....Who i predict will be able to do this with easy are supercomputers...They will be able to do this with easy...

        If let's say 3 plays in draw 3, draw 11, then draw 17, then draw 20, then draw 33, then the number 3 is making a random walk or footprint in the draws 3,11,17,20,33 etc...You just have to find where, in which draw the number 3 will LAND NEXT...You not only do it with 1 number but with all the numbers....What you are studying is the distances between each successive draw that the number 3 makes....This knowledge in conjunction with the knowledge that the lottery most of the time selects (pick5) 3coldnumbers & 2 hot numbers, or 4cold numbers & 1 hot number almost all the time and rarely selects 4hot numbers & 1 cold number, or 5hot numbers & 0 cold number or 5 cold numbers & 0 hot number or 3hot numbers & 2 cold numbers, then it can be spectacular (pick6's ratio are different but the same principle)...You could perhaps predict what's going to play with very few combinations, like with 20 combinations perhaps less...I don't have a credit card to be able to buy lotto software and test this theory, (even though i study the random walk/footprint years ago) and know for sure...But is a theory... In a couple of weeks i am suppose to get a pre-paid debit card that the banks says it will work like a credit card, I just hope it works...

         

         

        "Laura Simpson from Navy Federal Credit Union in Great Lakes, Illinois deserves to be rich..."          "She is so rare.."

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          Posted: March 28, 2007, 3:45 pm - IP Logged

          if someone cann't do the following Supercomputers will be able to do them... 

          Example of footprint or what i call a random walk...Imagine that you enumerated/list the draws from 1 to 100...And let's take some sample draws; sucessive sample draws...You would notice for example that 1 (or any numbers, we are just using 1 for the sake of it) first appear in the draw number 1, then in draw number 7, then in draw number 22 and so on..Is not only 1 but all the numbers (the total range)...YOu are listing in which draws each number will appear and after taking note of each draw the numbers appear (or step), you will notice that each number sort of "walks"and if you can find the pattern in this number "walks" you can hit the game as often as you wish and with less combinations (you can even hit the game with 1 combination if you are a genius and find the pattern).....Who i predict will be able to do this with easy are supercomputers...They will be able to do this with easy...

          If let's say 3 plays in draw 3, draw 11, then draw 17, then draw 20, then draw 33, then the number 3 is making a random walk or footprint in the draws 3,11,17,20,33 etc...You just have to find where, in which draw the number 3 will LAND NEXT...You not only do it with 1 number but with all the numbers....What you are studying is the distances between each successive draw that the number 3 makes....This knowledge in conjunction with the knowledge that the lottery most of the time selects (pick5) 3coldnumbers & 2 hot numbers, or 4cold numbers & 1 hot number almost all the time and rarely selects 4hot numbers & 1 cold number, or 5hot numbers & 0 cold number or 5 cold numbers & 0 hot number or 3hot numbers & 2 cold numbers, then it can be spectacular (pick6's ratio are different but the same principle)...You could perhaps predict what's going to play with very few combinations, like with 20 combinations perhaps less...I don't have a credit card to be able to buy lotto software and test this theory, (even though i study the random walk/footprint years ago) and know for sure...But is a theory... In a couple of weeks i am suppose to get a pre-paid debit card that the banks says it will work like a credit card, I just hope it works...

           

           

          "Laura Simpson from Navy Federal Credit Union in Great Lakes, Illinois deserves to be rich..."          "She is so rare.."

          "YOu are listing in which draws each number will appear and after taking note of each draw the numbers appear (or step), you will notice that each number sort of "walks"and if you can find the pattern in this number "walks"

          If you know the numbers are walking randomly, why do you expect them to walk in a predictable pattern?

          "If let's say 3 plays in draw 3, draw 11, then draw 17, then draw 20, then draw 33, then the number 3 is making a random walk or footprint in the draws 3,11,17,20,33 etc..You just have to find where, in which draw the number 3 will LAND NEXT..."

          It depends on how you analyze the data, but since 3 will be mixed up with 9 other balls in any given draw, whatever pattern you see just shows what happened when one of the other 9 balls were not drawn.

          "This knowledge in conjunction with the knowledge that the lottery most of the time selects (pick5) 3coldnumbers & 2 hot numbers, or 4cold numbers & 1 hot number almost all the time and rarely selects 4hot numbers & 1 cold number, or 5hot numbers & 0 cold number or 5 cold numbers & 0 hot number or 3hot numbers & 2 cold numbers, then it can be spectacular "

          I've never understood how to rank hot and cold numbers or how to use that knowledge. For instance after last Friday's draw in the Ohio Rolling Cash 5 (5/39), the number 13 was ranked 1st in the last 10 draws, 8th in the last 15, 17th in the last 20, 25th in the last 50, and 34th in the last 100 draws. For accurate statistical data, is 13 a hot or cold number?

          "You could perhaps predict what's going to play with very few combinations, like with 20 combinations perhaps less"

          You started out talking about a random number walk, gave an example of random footprints, wonder if the footprints formed something other than a random pattern and from that you concluded it's possible to predict which combination out of 575,757 will hit by using 20 or less combinations?

          "if someone cann't do the following Supercomputers will be able to do them..." 

          You don't need a supercomputer to tell you the drawing balls have no memory.

           

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            "YOu are listing in which draws each number will appear and after taking note of each draw the numbers appear (or step), you will notice that each number sort of "walks"and if you can find the pattern in this number "walks"

            If you know the numbers are walking randomly, why do you expect them to walk in a predictable pattern?

            "If let's say 3 plays in draw 3, draw 11, then draw 17, then draw 20, then draw 33, then the number 3 is making a random walk or footprint in the draws 3,11,17,20,33 etc..You just have to find where, in which draw the number 3 will LAND NEXT..."

            It depends on how you analyze the data, but since 3 will be mixed up with 9 other balls in any given draw, whatever pattern you see just shows what happened when one of the other 9 balls were not drawn.

            "This knowledge in conjunction with the knowledge that the lottery most of the time selects (pick5) 3coldnumbers & 2 hot numbers, or 4cold numbers & 1 hot number almost all the time and rarely selects 4hot numbers & 1 cold number, or 5hot numbers & 0 cold number or 5 cold numbers & 0 hot number or 3hot numbers & 2 cold numbers, then it can be spectacular "

            I've never understood how to rank hot and cold numbers or how to use that knowledge. For instance after last Friday's draw in the Ohio Rolling Cash 5 (5/39), the number 13 was ranked 1st in the last 10 draws, 8th in the last 15, 17th in the last 20, 25th in the last 50, and 34th in the last 100 draws. For accurate statistical data, is 13 a hot or cold number?

            "You could perhaps predict what's going to play with very few combinations, like with 20 combinations perhaps less"

            You started out talking about a random number walk, gave an example of random footprints, wonder if the footprints formed something other than a random pattern and from that you concluded it's possible to predict which combination out of 575,757 will hit by using 20 or less combinations?

            "if someone cann't do the following Supercomputers will be able to do them..." 

            You don't need a supercomputer to tell you the drawing balls have no memory.

             

            I Agree! 

             #DR  DATE      RC5  NUMBERS
              6  03/21/07  04 08 13 21 22
              8  03/19/07  13 14 24 29 37
              26  02/24/07  05 10 13 14 24
              50  01/27/07  03 11 13 30 39
              56  01/20/07  02 13 17 24 39
              65  01/10/07  02 05 13 20 31
              88  12/13/06  05 13 21 24 28
              93  12/07/06  13 18 24 26 38
             109  11/18/06  08 13 14 18 23
             110  11/17/06  13 14 31 33 35
             124  11/01/06  13 14 22 23 39
             130  10/25/06  12 13 18 29 30
             131  10/24/06  01 07 10 13 24
             137  10/17/06  11 13 28 35 38
             142  10/11/06  03 13 15 24 33
             144  10/09/06  05 07 13 21 25

            You don't need a super computer to know which drawing back a number last came up as I have done with the Rolling Cash5 history using regular software.  Having that information only tell me that the #13 hits on the average every 7 drawings and a median of every 6 drawings.  Since it has been 6 drawings since it last hit, I might think it's due to come in the next drawing or two if it acts as it has normally in the past.  Now if it had hit twice or more in the last seven drawings I would consider it a hot number and if it doesn't hit within the next two drawings or so I would consider it a cold number at that point.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              When i say hot & cold numbers i mean what numbers become hot and what numbers become cold from the inception of the game (you might take a 2year history for a pick5), perhaps longer for a pick6 (i don´t know that is how i do it)....You may also start from when there change the machine since they change machines all the time...And you have to look at the 3 most predominat ratios for pick6, and perhaps the 3/4 most predominat ratios for pick6...

              "If you know the numbers are walking randomly, why do you expect them to walk in a predictable pattern?"

              You are looking for what is not going to play, you are not looking for what should play...YOu look for what numbers or the odds a number will not play and you then go eliminating the numbers that are less likely to appear according to you...A good example of this is the following..."if number 11 play on draw 2 & on draw 10, is very unlikely to play on draw 11..Why? Because if you look at random samples/history, you will notice that number 2 rarely plays on draw 2, number 10 rarely plays on draw 10th, number 18 rarely plays on draw 18th, number 33 rarely plays on draw 33rd, is almost guaranteed they will not play in those draws...Basically you are eliminating where each number is likely to land...It can happened but almost certain it will not happened...You probably could do this with pencil/pen & paper, but i think a supercomputer will be able to sort through the spaces where each number hasn¨t landed on each step on previous history better than a human (that will be a thinking Supercomputer)....If you are really, really good like extremely good you could predict what´s going to play with 1-5 combination...You have to believe me!!!...I don´t know how to explain it another way...But you have to believe me!!!

              I just remember something...To get a better understand it and see it clearly and to make it better, it will be good if you list the draws from 1 to the range of the particular game, so if the game is a pick5/39, you need to list the draws from 1 to 39 and then draw 39th you start back at 1 again and so on sucessively until you get to 39 and you start back again and so on...And you take heed/notice where each number lands and you eliminate that landing draw number or the number and not the draw landing number from each list (Each list listing the draws from 1-39, then 1-39, then 1-39 and so on successively)....Little by little you will be narrowing the numbers or the draw landing number and eventually you will have few numbers like 5 or 6 numbers or the draw landing number where you know most numbers should not play....All this with the knowledge that the particular game will select the numbers a certain way (in a certain ratio),....You could win the game with 20 combinations or less....

              I will have to do more research into it, but it wouldn¨t be soon, but that is how you do it...

               

               

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