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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 4, 2007
"they play on paper and don't play for real money."
I can create a Pick-3 system by saying "had I played the first digit from "X" numbers of draws ago and the second and third digits from "X" numbers of draws" and predict the next drawing. Since I can't go back in time and buy tickets, I can only check the system's validity on paper. And if I have enough confidence in the system, I play the results in my state lottery.
I suppose I could have scanned all the $2, $3, $5, and $40 winners I had playing Ten-Oh, but if I wanted to prove the simple system I'm using is showing a profit, wouldn't it be reasonable to scan and show all the tickets I played?
"I have just sent Pete 2 .jpg files of scanned copies of the WINNING Lottery Tickets from last week's Pick 3 drawings that I have won."
I'll bet you didn't scan and make copies of all the tickets you bought; AKA LOSING lottery tickets.
I'm not saying you "didn't" win using Pete's system, I'm just suggesting that if you want to prove the system is profitable, why not post the numbers this system picks for a couple of weeks on the Predictions page so it can be evaluated equally with all other methods?
"Has this satisified your Q's?"
I guess you did if you're just looking for an "atta-boy" because cashed a lottery ticket.
Hi stack47,
Thanks for your additional comments."I'll bet you didn't scan and make copies of all the tickets you bought; AKA LOSING lottery tickets."
Yes, you are absolutely, without a doubt, 1000% correct.
No, I did NOT scan the LOSING tickets.
Why didn't *I* think of that?
Basically, scanning the WINNING Tickets does show that I
wasn't just 'playing on paper' and actually BET on the numbers.
"why not post the numbers this system picks for a couple of weeks on the Predictions page so it
can be evaluated equally with all other methods?"
As I've mentioned before, You can ASK Pete, this is HIS System.
My participation in this thread was to Defend Pete and also verifyMY Results and success with the system, thus far.
If You want it broken down, here it is:
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10 tickets per day @ $.50 per ticket = $5 per day.
10/19 to 11/03 = 15 days
Total Lottery Tickets Purchased = 150 tickets times $.50 per ticket = $75
Winning lottery ticket pay out per ticket = $40
Total winning lottery tickets = 3
Total in winnings (Gross) = $120
Net winnings = $120 - $75 = $45
******************************************************************On the same note, The LOSING tickets have a value of -.50
The WINNING Tickets have a value of + $40.
So, basically, all I would need is 1 win every 7 days to stay on top.
1 win every 8 days to stay even.
As for the LOSING Tickets:
If you want, I can snail-mail the LOSING tickets to you , if you'd like?
(just provide the postage and an address to mail them to, and they're YOURS!
Absolutely FREE + shipping and handling, of course.)
You can scan them if they mean so much to you.
"I guess you did if you're just looking for an "atta-boy" because cashed a lottery ticket."
Interesting. So do you think that I'm looking for a pat on the back 'cause I won 3 times?
nah... I think that Pete and BobP should get one, though...
Now, I've got $45 to play more Pick 3 games with and still be in the black.
Hope this has answered your questions.
Please don't hesitate to add more comments and questions as they arise.
I'm Happy to help!
Christopher
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Nov 4, 2007
"Actually, they're not MY predictions, they are the system's predictions."
If the predictions are the system's predictions and not yours then everyone who uses the system must get the same results. If you ever win big then everyone who's playing the same game using that system will share the prize with you.
Ooop!
I was thinking this system was for games with big jackpots so my statement wouldn't apply since pick3 and pick4 payouts are fixed amounts. However, if you ever got a straight hit then everyone who used this system in the same game would get one too and that would get some attention. That happened with PowerBall when a lot of players got their numbers from fortune cookies that had the same numbers but as far as I know it has never happened with a pick3 or pick4 game.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Nov 4, 2007
Ooop!
I was thinking this system was for games with big jackpots so my statement wouldn't apply since pick3 and pick4 payouts are fixed amounts. However, if you ever got a straight hit then everyone who used this system in the same game would get one too and that would get some attention. That happened with PowerBall when a lot of players got their numbers from fortune cookies that had the same numbers but as far as I know it has never happened with a pick3 or pick4 game.
Hi RJOh,
Thanks for clarifying.
"If the predictions are the system's predictions and not yours then everyone who uses the system must get the same results. If you ever win big then everyone who's playing the same game using that system will share the prize with you."
Didn't want to sound lost, but I really didn't understand where You were getting at with your post.
Yes, the Pick3 here in Florida are Fixed amounts, so it wouldn't be like having to share the prize with someone else. Technically...
One reason why I like Pete's System is that it really doesn't cost too much to test ($5 per day) and
You can still stay on top by winning only once per week.
Now, if there were any pick 4 systems like that,
(as consistant as Pete's [Pick 3] System without a HUGE Outlay of dough to play/test,)
I'd be quite the happy camper... :)
In My case (using Pete's System,) I won the very first night...
Probably won't happen with everyone, but it did with Me,
so that was cool.
Christopher
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It's unusual for any lottery system I've ever seen to pick the same group of combinations for everyone who uses it. Most pick a group of combinations within certain parameters for each drawing which are different for each user, that way one of its users in more likely to win something every day.
I'm not familiar with systems specifically designed for pick3 games since I usually play pick5 and jackpot style games but I have tried LottoPro, Lotto Buster and LottoMaster which can also be used for pick3 and pick4 games. The system I'm using now I designed myself and is for pick5 and pick6 games with or without a bonus number. It picks combinations within certain parameters and can avoid duplications down to one number depending on the number of combinations I want. Obvious if I want 10 combinations for a 6/49 game, some numbers will have to be used twice or more depending the size of the group of numbers I'm picking from.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Nov 4, 2007
BobP
Frustrating isn't it? There is no way to gain an edge in any lottery game. Whether the ticket costs 1 dollar or 1 penny it doesn't matter, THE ODDS DON'T CHANGE!! There is no system on earth short of being able to see into the future that is going to change the facts, and I am dealing in facts, not fantasy. A lottery system is nothing more than a pre-determined way of picking numbers, and placing bets. The best "systems" are free and not far from common sense. However, there is no system that can make you a longterm winner in small stakes lottery, and the only way to be a longterm winner in the bigger lottery games is to hit a jackpot.
Lottery is all about losing money as far as well over 99.9% of players are concerned. Buying lottery systems helps speed up the money losing process as there is no gain (less entertainment), for lottery players. Systems may also give the player a false sense of advantage and encourage them to spend more than they normally would of otherwise.
It's little wonder that people who believe that lottery can be beat with systems end up "banging their head against a wall" in frustration. Just learn what the odds mean, thats the first step in understanding what I am saying here. Learn what 1:167 means, the rest will fall into place.
Regards, Jack
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Lotta people posting in this thread, but where is Pete? Pete, can you please attempt to prove me wrong here in this thread. Can you prove that your system can beat the odds and make the customer a long term profit? Can you provide hard proof that you can turn the tables on odds like 1:167? If you can (as you claim) on average double lottery "investment" in a week, then that would mean most weeks out of the year you can make a decent profit playing pick three. Can you prove it? If you can prove all of this beyond a shadow of a doubt, then you will have been the first lottery system seller in the history of system sellers to have been able to make a longterm profit with your system. BTW, I have heard it said that the system you are selling is a much older system repacked under the name of your choosing. Is that true?
Please answer all of these question without ignoring any of these question, and also please provide proof beyond a shadow of a doubt for all of your evidence.
Regards, Jack.
PS: answers such as "If anyone here wants to know if it works or not, they can find out by sending me $27 today and start winning as soon as tomorrow!!!!" will not be excepted as proof beyond a shadow of a doubt, thanks.
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Jack,
#1 - I don't have to "prove" anything to anyone. I post predictions here, and you know where else. Just as it says on my website, sometimes you'll go a whole week with no wins. The next week you may have anywhere from 1-4 hits. You never know. That's why they call it gambling.
#2 - No, my way of picking the numbers does not have anything to do with any "older system that's been repacked". I started working on it in early spring, on my own, by myself, without looking at anyone elses work.
#3 - This whole thing started because I turned down your request to swap information with you. And, to quote your first contact with me "right now I couldn't afford to by (sic) your system for $27...."
If you can't afford it, how the heck did you plan to come up with the money to play the lottery?
#4 - I know of no other owner that feels they have to justify their system by "proving it" first. You buy it, or you don't. You like it, or you don't.
Tell ya what, Jack. When you graduate from med school and open up your practice I'll let you treat me for free. If I like your work, I'll consider paying for it next time. :)
Pete
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Quote: Originally posted by pegeler on Nov 5, 2007
Jack,
#1 - I don't have to "prove" anything to anyone. I post predictions here, and you know where else. Just as it says on my website, sometimes you'll go a whole week with no wins. The next week you may have anywhere from 1-4 hits. You never know. That's why they call it gambling.
#2 - No, my way of picking the numbers does not have anything to do with any "older system that's been repacked". I started working on it in early spring, on my own, by myself, without looking at anyone elses work.
#3 - This whole thing started because I turned down your request to swap information with you. And, to quote your first contact with me "right now I couldn't afford to by (sic) your system for $27...."
If you can't afford it, how the heck did you plan to come up with the money to play the lottery?
#4 - I know of no other owner that feels they have to justify their system by "proving it" first. You buy it, or you don't. You like it, or you don't.
Tell ya what, Jack. When you graduate from med school and open up your practice I'll let you treat me for free. If I like your work, I'll consider paying for it next time. :)
Pete
Pete,
You are right, you do not have to prove anything to anyone. If you are not comfortable proving that your system can do the things you say it can do then simply don't. It is much easier to avoid than to face head on, and even if you wanted to, chances are great that you couldn't anyway.
Having said that I will deal with this post according to what you have presented.
#1 - So the implication is that your system never goes longer than one week without winning.
This implication is one of your main selling points. Your not actually saying that it can't lose 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,7,8 weeks in a row, your just saying that sometimes it doesn't win for a whole week. But here in this thread you say that the next week you MAY have anywhere from 1-4 hits. The key word is MAY, your not saying it WILL.
In the same way that it MAY hit after a week of not hitting, isn't also true that it MAY not, or that MAYBE it won't hit for the next couple months because after all this is gambling, right?
#2 - ok, I guess different people are going to see that differently.
#3 - Pete I said I couldn't afford to buy it for $27, where are you getting the "can't" from???
I CAN more than afford to buy it, I do have money and all, I just couldn't see spending $27 on something that I can't profit from just to satisfy my curiosity. I figured instead I would share with you the best information I know, at the cost of free to you. I was gonna do you the biggest favor of your life. You know that now, but at the time I can't say what you were thinking. I guess you thought I was going to send you $27, I can't say.
#4 - Your right, in your line of business you just say whatever it takes to get the people to send the money, who needs to prove a thing to them, right? The money comes in and it's not your problem if they couldn't see through the implications, huh?
Tell ya what Pete, why don't you explain to your 'disabled wife' (sic) how you turned down multi-million dollar ROI investment information because you thought some guy was gonna send you another $27 for a net-loser lottery system, and how the guy went and found it posted on someones blog for free anyhow. :)
Jack
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Quote: Originally posted by Summertime on Nov 5, 2007
Pete,
You are right, you do not have to prove anything to anyone. If you are not comfortable proving that your system can do the things you say it can do then simply don't. It is much easier to avoid than to face head on, and even if you wanted to, chances are great that you couldn't anyway.
Having said that I will deal with this post according to what you have presented.
#1 - So the implication is that your system never goes longer than one week without winning.
This implication is one of your main selling points. Your not actually saying that it can't lose 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,7,8 weeks in a row, your just saying that sometimes it doesn't win for a whole week. But here in this thread you say that the next week you MAY have anywhere from 1-4 hits. The key word is MAY, your not saying it WILL.
In the same way that it MAY hit after a week of not hitting, isn't also true that it MAY not, or that MAYBE it won't hit for the next couple months because after all this is gambling, right?
#2 - ok, I guess different people are going to see that differently.
#3 - Pete I said I couldn't afford to buy it for $27, where are you getting the "can't" from???
I CAN more than afford to buy it, I do have money and all, I just couldn't see spending $27 on something that I can't profit from just to satisfy my curiosity. I figured instead I would share with you the best information I know, at the cost of free to you. I was gonna do you the biggest favor of your life. You know that now, but at the time I can't say what you were thinking. I guess you thought I was going to send you $27, I can't say.
#4 - Your right, in your line of business you just say whatever it takes to get the people to send the money, who needs to prove a thing to them, right? The money comes in and it's not your problem if they couldn't see through the implications, huh?
Tell ya what Pete, why don't you explain to your 'disabled wife' (sic) how you turned down multi-million dollar ROI investment information because you thought some guy was gonna send you another $27 for a net-loser lottery system, and how the guy went and found it posted on someones blog for free anyhow. :)
Jack
Hi "Jack,"
Thanks for continuing your discussion with Pete.
I have a Q for You;
IF Your so called "multi-million dolloar ROI investment" information is THAT Valuable,
then WHY give it away for a Lottery System that you deem "something that I can't profit from."
You can't tell Us that it was "just to satisfy my curiosity" can you and make Us actually BELIEVE you, can Ya?
I'll tell ya what, IF your information is SO VALUABLE, Why don't you PM Me and maybe WE can
trade info. I have a product that I have created that allows you to view Super Hidden Files on Your PC that you don't even know are there... (AND, I'll even throw in some info that will make it even EASIER to view these files not included in the current report that I sell... I will be updating the report within the next few weeks and YOU will have this info BEFORE ANYONE Else does.)
Hey, It's No Lottery System, but I'll send you the link to one of My websites and You'll see what it's all about.
Aside from that, Pete is NOT a bad guy. Really, He's Not.
Can't You two just kiss and make up already?
Christopher
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Quote: Originally posted by pegeler on Nov 5, 2007
Jack,
#1 - I don't have to "prove" anything to anyone. I post predictions here, and you know where else. Just as it says on my website, sometimes you'll go a whole week with no wins. The next week you may have anywhere from 1-4 hits. You never know. That's why they call it gambling.
#2 - No, my way of picking the numbers does not have anything to do with any "older system that's been repacked". I started working on it in early spring, on my own, by myself, without looking at anyone elses work.
#3 - This whole thing started because I turned down your request to swap information with you. And, to quote your first contact with me "right now I couldn't afford to by (sic) your system for $27...."
If you can't afford it, how the heck did you plan to come up with the money to play the lottery?
#4 - I know of no other owner that feels they have to justify their system by "proving it" first. You buy it, or you don't. You like it, or you don't.
Tell ya what, Jack. When you graduate from med school and open up your practice I'll let you treat me for free. If I like your work, I'll consider paying for it next time. :)
Pete
THANKsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssPete^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You need to tell sum of the yahwho's to put-up $27 or shut-up!!!
I have never heard of U til these JAWBONE's brought it to ALL & my
attention here on the Lottery Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LOL in this and FUTURE software development and a JACKPOT(maby)
PSYKOMO
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Quote: Originally posted by FirstBorn on Nov 5, 2007
Hi "Jack,"
Thanks for continuing your discussion with Pete.
I have a Q for You;
IF Your so called "multi-million dolloar ROI investment" information is THAT Valuable,
then WHY give it away for a Lottery System that you deem "something that I can't profit from."
You can't tell Us that it was "just to satisfy my curiosity" can you and make Us actually BELIEVE you, can Ya?
I'll tell ya what, IF your information is SO VALUABLE, Why don't you PM Me and maybe WE can
trade info. I have a product that I have created that allows you to view Super Hidden Files on Your PC that you don't even know are there... (AND, I'll even throw in some info that will make it even EASIER to view these files not included in the current report that I sell... I will be updating the report within the next few weeks and YOU will have this info BEFORE ANYONE Else does.)
Hey, It's No Lottery System, but I'll send you the link to one of My websites and You'll see what it's all about.
Aside from that, Pete is NOT a bad guy. Really, He's Not.
Can't You two just kiss and make up already?
Christopher
FB, My information IS that valuable. I am not selling what I know, nobody is. Mostly if the information is passed on it is to close friends and family, not strangers. Although people knowing doesn't change the outcome this way or that way. It is the the net result of multi-generational insite/wisdom/understanding/experience. Simply put it is something that happened in my Grandfather's (RIP) day. Something that he missed out on because he was not"in the know" until after the fact. He told me about it. He told me that if I ever got the chance, in other words if certain conditions arose again that I would be able to get rich (or at the very least well off) from what he knew. Well, after a years worth of research I found out that those condition have very well presented themself again, and much to my suprise I found (on the internet) a small pocket of people who not only
know of this, but conduct ongoing research on it for latest developments, etc. I am excited today because some new info has just surfaced today that supports the validity of our investment. Promising info to be sure. Infact everything is going well for this investment and those of us who got in early are already making money off of it because everything is/has been going the way we want (this proves to me that my grandfather knew what he was talking about with his family's future in mind). We are a small group of future millionaires. "Millionaires in the making" so to speak. There are a lot of fact to back this up. I know all of this may seem to fantastic to believe, but I am not asking you to believe me. I am not selling what I know, so any of you believing this matters not to me one way or the other. Anyway this thing has alomost run it's full course, and after it does there will be no way for anyone who finds out after the fact to reverse time, and go back and get in on it. The ironic thing is that it has to do with something that is familiar to us all, the amount you invest is up to you, and investing enough to become a multi-millionaire is withing the budget of the middle class working man. It has had me on cloud 9 for over a year now, and I do whatever I want. If I wanna use this info a bargaining chip to get something I will. Whatever, I am in a position to do that. The days of me having to be a slave to the system are numbered, and I know it.
BTW, I never said Pete was a "bad guy", I don't believe that he is. I think he is doing what he is doing for his own personal reasons to try to stay afloat in our troubled economic times, and while it may not be exactly ethical, I am not going to label him as a "bad" person. There are plenty of otherwise good people that would push someone under the water in an attempt to save themselve's from drowning. Are they "bad" people? Most likely not, thats just what they will do in troubled times.
Regards, Jack.
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Quote: Originally posted by Summertime on Nov 5, 2007
FB, My information IS that valuable. I am not selling what I know, nobody is. Mostly if the information is passed on it is to close friends and family, not strangers. Although people knowing doesn't change the outcome this way or that way. It is the the net result of multi-generational insite/wisdom/understanding/experience. Simply put it is something that happened in my Grandfather's (RIP) day. Something that he missed out on because he was not"in the know" until after the fact. He told me about it. He told me that if I ever got the chance, in other words if certain conditions arose again that I would be able to get rich (or at the very least well off) from what he knew. Well, after a years worth of research I found out that those condition have very well presented themself again, and much to my suprise I found (on the internet) a small pocket of people who not only
know of this, but conduct ongoing research on it for latest developments, etc. I am excited today because some new info has just surfaced today that supports the validity of our investment. Promising info to be sure. Infact everything is going well for this investment and those of us who got in early are already making money off of it because everything is/has been going the way we want (this proves to me that my grandfather knew what he was talking about with his family's future in mind). We are a small group of future millionaires. "Millionaires in the making" so to speak. There are a lot of fact to back this up. I know all of this may seem to fantastic to believe, but I am not asking you to believe me. I am not selling what I know, so any of you believing this matters not to me one way or the other. Anyway this thing has alomost run it's full course, and after it does there will be no way for anyone who finds out after the fact to reverse time, and go back and get in on it. The ironic thing is that it has to do with something that is familiar to us all, the amount you invest is up to you, and investing enough to become a multi-millionaire is withing the budget of the middle class working man. It has had me on cloud 9 for over a year now, and I do whatever I want. If I wanna use this info a bargaining chip to get something I will. Whatever, I am in a position to do that. The days of me having to be a slave to the system are numbered, and I know it.
BTW, I never said Pete was a "bad guy", I don't believe that he is. I think he is doing what he is doing for his own personal reasons to try to stay afloat in our troubled economic times, and while it may not be exactly ethical, I am not going to label him as a "bad" person. There are plenty of otherwise good people that would push someone under the water in an attempt to save themselve's from drowning. Are they "bad" people? Most likely not, thats just what they will do in troubled times.
Regards, Jack.
Hi Jack,
Re: Your money making idea.
OK, If You say so... Wish you the best of luck with it. ;)
Re: Pete;
Actually, I disagree with you about your Pete Slam and taking advantage of other people for his own gain.
As I've said already, I've just started with his program and have won 3 times already.
Pete isn't the type to take advantage of other people like how you're describing.
Seriously, man, you've got Pete all wrong.
It seems that you've got something against Pete 'cause He wasn't willing to trade info with you.
Would you agree with that?
Christopher
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Quote: Originally posted by FirstBorn on Nov 5, 2007
Hi Jack,
Re: Your money making idea.
OK, If You say so... Wish you the best of luck with it. ;)
Re: Pete;
Actually, I disagree with you about your Pete Slam and taking advantage of other people for his own gain.
As I've said already, I've just started with his program and have won 3 times already.
Pete isn't the type to take advantage of other people like how you're describing.
Seriously, man, you've got Pete all wrong.
It seems that you've got something against Pete 'cause He wasn't willing to trade info with you.
Would you agree with that?
Christopher
Chris, I know you wanna defend Pete and his system. Your intentions are genuine, but Pete can speak for himself. I have already explained that it was the principle of the thing and all that good stuff. If you really think that pete's system, or any other system whether you have to pay someone for it of not can overcome 1:167 odds, then I certainly do not expect you to understand the ethical aspects of peddling lottery sysems. I am glad that you are having some good luck playing the lottery, but lets let Pete speak for himself.
Regards, Jack.
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Quote: Originally posted by Summertime on Nov 6, 2007
Chris, I know you wanna defend Pete and his system. Your intentions are genuine, but Pete can speak for himself. I have already explained that it was the principle of the thing and all that good stuff. If you really think that pete's system, or any other system whether you have to pay someone for it of not can overcome 1:167 odds, then I certainly do not expect you to understand the ethical aspects of peddling lottery sysems. I am glad that you are having some good luck playing the lottery, but lets let Pete speak for himself.
Regards, Jack.
Where are you pulling these 1:167 odds from? The Pick-3 odds for Straight are 1:1000 and Box are 1:210 or 1:220 if you include the Triples (1-1-1, 2-2-2, etc.) There are odds for All Different and Doubles purely based on their representation in the total population.
There are also system odds like a 2if3in10digit8number wheel guarantees when all different digits are drawn at least one number will have 2 of the winning digits which leaves 8 remaining digits to occupy the third position making your odds 1:8 of winning.
BobP
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Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Nov 6, 2007
Where are you pulling these 1:167 odds from? The Pick-3 odds for Straight are 1:1000 and Box are 1:210 or 1:220 if you include the Triples (1-1-1, 2-2-2, etc.) There are odds for All Different and Doubles purely based on their representation in the total population.
There are also system odds like a 2if3in10digit8number wheel guarantees when all different digits are drawn at least one number will have 2 of the winning digits which leaves 8 remaining digits to occupy the third position making your odds 1:8 of winning.
BobP
Box wager (6-way) using 3 unique numbers for a pick 3 game. Odds = 1:167
Which means when you make this bet you will win on average this many times:
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This is a losing bet, it will ALWAYS be a longterm loser, and no system can ever change that fact.
It is also a very timid bet, being that while the odds of winning this bet are much better than most lottery games, but the payout is very small, and will never be of any meaningful consequence. To put it another way, winning this bet weighed against what it would take money wise to get the wins would only provide a fraction of what a minimum wage worker makes in one day on the job. Even those small wins mean nothing when you consider that the weeks that these bets doesn't win will wipe out and microscopic profits you happen to make win it did win. The odds dictate that there will be far more losing weeks that winning ones, so when you add the cost of a system on top of the losses (not to mention the wasted time to find all of this out the hard way), you would be better off recycling aluminum, and plastic containers on a very limited basis than wasting your time, energy, and money on trying to make a profit playing pick3 (system, or no system).
Look on the back of any pick3 playslip to confirm 1:167 for a 6-way box w/3 different (unique) numbers.
Regards, Jack