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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: April 28, 2009, 2:29 pm - IP Logged

Yes you can print it out but you cant copy and paste it at least not from my browser they have some kind of feature that doesn't allow copy and paste.

Some people might have time to enter all the drawings into an excel file manually. But why should you if they will give you the file.

True if you are on the page that only show the results of one game.  But is you go to the "Winning Number" section you can get a text file by year or month with all the winning numbers together (like below).  Copy it to notepad.  To have all the same games together in the file, sort the lines(records) by the game names.  (You can use the DOS command "Sort" in the command window of XP if you don't have a sorting program)
 
04/27/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-7-0             
04/27/2009          Evening Pick 4      9-3-8-4           
04/27/2009          Little Lotto        13-19-32-34-36     
04/27/2009          Lotto               03-31-34-38-47-50 
04/27/2009          Midday Pick 3       8-8-2             
04/27/2009          Midday Pick 4       0-1-6-5           
04/26/2009          Evening Pick 3      5-4-8             
04/26/2009          Evening Pick 4      7-7-1-9           
04/26/2009          Little Lotto        04-17-22-29-35     
04/25/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-9-1             
04/25/2009          Evening Pick 4      8-8-5-5           
04/25/2009          Little Lotto        01-22-30-33-38     
04/25/2009          Lotto               21-26-27-33-41-50 
04/25/2009          Midday Pick 3       3-3-0             
04/25/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-4-0-4           
04/24/2009          Evening Pick 3      2-7-0             
04/24/2009          Evening Pick 4      4-9-3-8           
04/24/2009          Little Lotto        08-10-19-23-27     
04/24/2009          Mega Millions       09-20-21-48-49[07] 
04/24/2009          Midday Pick 3       2-8-6             
04/24/2009          Midday Pick 4       1-8-1-9           
04/23/2009          Evening Pick 3      3-5-4             
04/23/2009          Evening Pick 4      1-6-2-6           
04/23/2009          Little Lotto        17-19-27-28-39     
04/23/2009          Midday Pick 3       4-7-6             
04/23/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-1-7-2           

Sorted by game names will put all the same games together in the file like this.

04/27/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-7-0
04/26/2009          Evening Pick 3      5-4-8
04/25/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-9-1
04/24/2009          Evening Pick 3      2-7-0
04/23/2009          Evening Pick 3      3-5-4
04/27/2009          Evening Pick 4      9-3-8-4
04/26/2009          Evening Pick 4      7-7-1-9
04/25/2009          Evening Pick 4      8-8-5-5
04/24/2009          Evening Pick 4      4-9-3-8
04/23/2009          Evening Pick 4      1-6-2-6
04/27/2009          Little Lotto        13-19-32-34-36
04/26/2009          Little Lotto        04-17-22-29-35
04/25/2009          Little Lotto        01-22-30-33-38
04/24/2009          Little Lotto        08-10-19-23-27
04/23/2009          Little Lotto        17-19-27-28-39
04/27/2009          Lotto               03-31-34-38-47-50
04/25/2009          Lotto               21-26-27-33-41-50
04/24/2009          Mega Millions       09-20-21-48-49[07]
04/27/2009          Midday Pick 3       8-8-2
04/25/2009          Midday Pick 3       3-3-0
04/24/2009          Midday Pick 3       2-8-6
04/23/2009          Midday Pick 3       4-7-6
04/27/2009          Midday Pick 4       0-1-6-5
04/25/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-4-0-4
04/24/2009          Midday Pick 4       1-8-1-9
04/23/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-1-7-2

Now you can copy and paste Little Lotto to a different file of its own and edit out the name Little Lotto and eliminate some of the spaces with the find and replace function in notepad to get a text file like the one below which can be imported into most software.

04/27/2009   13-19-32-34-36
04/26/2009   04-17-22-29-35
04/25/2009   01-22-30-33-38
04/24/2009   08-10-19-23-27
04/23/2009   17-19-27-28-39

Good luck.

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    I would love to go back at least 6 months and look at Little Lotto line by line just to see what was happening. Then I would go back line by line and start taking notes. When pattern A and B fall together what happens in the next 5 lines.

    As a serious lottery player, I'm surprise you don't have a list of the previous drawings for the games you play.  I'm always wondering what happened back when so having a file with all the previous drawings is handy and beside I check my new picks against it since combinations of fours or more seldom repeat.  But then again if you play quick picks it doesn't matter.

    Hey RJOH,

    I was keeping charts on Little Lotto as well as Lotto and MM but I stopped around June of last year. I've just recently started tracking numbers again but this time only for Little lotto and they only go back a few months. I realized that in trying to find patterns within patterns I need to go back more than just a few months.

    As for previous drawings....I always go to the Illinois Lottery website and print out what I need. Keeping an ongoing file with the numbers is a good idea!

    Thanks for the tip about combos of four and NOOOOO I don't do quick picks. Since I haven't been tracking MM I just don't play...it doesn't matter how high the jackpot.

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      Posted: April 28, 2009, 7:55 pm - IP Logged

      Someone told me if you contact the Illinois lottery they will send you the Lil lotto files in excel format. If you do that don't go into a lot of details as to what you are going to do with the file just tell them it's for personal use.

      If you have excel you can make two files one for tracking and updating the new numbers as they fall everyday and another one to work with.

      Copy and paste all the little lotto drawings to a separate workbook and put in ascending order you can then see all the lines as they will automatically be displayed you can then search for the patterns.

      There are many ways to set up different workbooks to try and find possibility's for future plays.

      When I learned about odds and patterns and all that good stuff I didn't own a PC so I learned to do everything by hand.

      I have Excel but have never used it. I found a couple of tutorials to guide me thru the basics and as soon as I figure everything out I'm anxious to put as much lottery info into it as I can.

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        ca-dreamin,

        You're lucky Illinois lottery maintain records of all their drawing at the website, Ohio only keep the last six months or the length of time a ticket is still good.  If I didn't keep my own records, I would have no way of going back and building them up from information on their website.  At least if you ever decide go back and reconstruct records from a year or two back, the information is there.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          True if you are on the page that only show the results of one game.  But is you go to the "Winning Number" section you can get a text file by year or month with all the winning numbers together (like below).  Copy it to notepad.  To have all the same games together in the file, sort the lines(records) by the game names.  (You can use the DOS command "Sort" in the command window of XP if you don't have a sorting program)
           
          04/27/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-7-0             
          04/27/2009          Evening Pick 4      9-3-8-4           
          04/27/2009          Little Lotto        13-19-32-34-36     
          04/27/2009          Lotto               03-31-34-38-47-50 
          04/27/2009          Midday Pick 3       8-8-2             
          04/27/2009          Midday Pick 4       0-1-6-5           
          04/26/2009          Evening Pick 3      5-4-8             
          04/26/2009          Evening Pick 4      7-7-1-9           
          04/26/2009          Little Lotto        04-17-22-29-35     
          04/25/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-9-1             
          04/25/2009          Evening Pick 4      8-8-5-5           
          04/25/2009          Little Lotto        01-22-30-33-38     
          04/25/2009          Lotto               21-26-27-33-41-50 
          04/25/2009          Midday Pick 3       3-3-0             
          04/25/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-4-0-4           
          04/24/2009          Evening Pick 3      2-7-0             
          04/24/2009          Evening Pick 4      4-9-3-8           
          04/24/2009          Little Lotto        08-10-19-23-27     
          04/24/2009          Mega Millions       09-20-21-48-49[07] 
          04/24/2009          Midday Pick 3       2-8-6             
          04/24/2009          Midday Pick 4       1-8-1-9           
          04/23/2009          Evening Pick 3      3-5-4             
          04/23/2009          Evening Pick 4      1-6-2-6           
          04/23/2009          Little Lotto        17-19-27-28-39     
          04/23/2009          Midday Pick 3       4-7-6             
          04/23/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-1-7-2           

          Sorted by game names will put all the same games together in the file like this.

          04/27/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-7-0
          04/26/2009          Evening Pick 3      5-4-8
          04/25/2009          Evening Pick 3      4-9-1
          04/24/2009          Evening Pick 3      2-7-0
          04/23/2009          Evening Pick 3      3-5-4
          04/27/2009          Evening Pick 4      9-3-8-4
          04/26/2009          Evening Pick 4      7-7-1-9
          04/25/2009          Evening Pick 4      8-8-5-5
          04/24/2009          Evening Pick 4      4-9-3-8
          04/23/2009          Evening Pick 4      1-6-2-6
          04/27/2009          Little Lotto        13-19-32-34-36
          04/26/2009          Little Lotto        04-17-22-29-35
          04/25/2009          Little Lotto        01-22-30-33-38
          04/24/2009          Little Lotto        08-10-19-23-27
          04/23/2009          Little Lotto        17-19-27-28-39
          04/27/2009          Lotto               03-31-34-38-47-50
          04/25/2009          Lotto               21-26-27-33-41-50
          04/24/2009          Mega Millions       09-20-21-48-49[07]
          04/27/2009          Midday Pick 3       8-8-2
          04/25/2009          Midday Pick 3       3-3-0
          04/24/2009          Midday Pick 3       2-8-6
          04/23/2009          Midday Pick 3       4-7-6
          04/27/2009          Midday Pick 4       0-1-6-5
          04/25/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-4-0-4
          04/24/2009          Midday Pick 4       1-8-1-9
          04/23/2009          Midday Pick 4       3-1-7-2

          Now you can copy and paste Little Lotto to a different file of its own and edit out the name Little Lotto and eliminate some of the spaces with the find and replace function in notepad to get a text file like the one below which can be imported into most software.

          04/27/2009   13-19-32-34-36
          04/26/2009   04-17-22-29-35
          04/25/2009   01-22-30-33-38
          04/24/2009   08-10-19-23-27
          04/23/2009   17-19-27-28-39

          Good luck.

          Thanks for that info i checked that out a few months ago.

          I was charting Little lotto until they stopped allowing copy and paste from the Lil lotto menu history of numbers. Since i don't live in IL it's not worth my trouble to dissect the numbers anymore.

          Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

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            Thanks for that info i checked that out a few months ago.

            I was charting Little lotto until they stopped allowing copy and paste from the Lil lotto menu history of numbers. Since i don't live in IL it's not worth my trouble to dissect the numbers anymore.

            You're welcome, I know the feeling. 

            I use to track more games when I had an active Lotto Pro membership and could download updates everyday but now that I maintain my files myself, I only track the games I play or might play when I travel to an adjacent state.

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              ca-dreamin,

              You're lucky Illinois lottery maintain records of all their drawing at the website, Ohio only keep the last six months or the length of time a ticket is still good.  If I didn't keep my own records, I would have no way of going back and building them up from information on their website.  At least if you ever decide go back and reconstruct records from a year or two back, the information is there.

              LOL one of the few good things about Illinois.

              I do like your idea of keeping records of the past draws in a file. As I continue to get ideas I have more of a need to search farther back into the game.  As far as picking numbers to play I'm only interested in the last 15-20 games.

              I can understand with a game like Mega wanting to have as much past history as possible LOL that's a whole different ball game : )

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                ca-dreamin,

                You're lucky Illinois lottery maintain records of all their drawing at the website, Ohio only keep the last six months or the length of time a ticket is still good.  If I didn't keep my own records, I would have no way of going back and building them up from information on their website.  At least if you ever decide go back and reconstruct records from a year or two back, the information is there.

                At the top of the Ohio Lottery home page click on "number search" then scroll down to "archives". They have results of every game drawn since 1979.

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                  At the top of the Ohio Lottery home page click on "number search" then scroll down to "archives". They have results of every game drawn since 1979.

                  Thanks for the head-up.  Now I will work on an easy way to separate the information in a PDF file as I've done with text files.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Ok, I'll tell ya'll what I've been doing, with not much success I might add, and maybe someone there smarter than me can suggest a better use for my excel files. Since 2005, I have kept track of each number's position. For example, in MM, the number "2" has played 42 times in the 1st position, and 2 times in the 2nd position. Obviously, a total of 44 times. This is over a total of 444 drawings. So, for each number, I know how many times it's played in each position, and total number of times played. I also use this info to determine which "decade" plays most often in which position. In other words the "singles" play most in the 1st position, the "teens" most in the 2nd position, "20's" in the 3rd, "40's" in the 4th, and "50's" in the 5th. The three very best numbers in terms of most times drawn (again over 444 draws) is 14, 25, and 46. So I usually make it a point to play those three. I have tried playing combinations strictly by position, for ex, the number "14" has played 26 times in the 1st position, which is the best for any number that is not a "single", that is "1 - 9". This is useful if I decide a single going to skip a drawing. I used to play only the most frequently drawn numbers, but it dawned on me that the winning combinations are never made up of only numbers that play the most often. Of course I hoped to hit smaller prizes at least. Finally, what I am going to do next week is cut certain decades. For ex, in MM I'm not playing any singles or "50's". Reducing the field of numbers dramatically reduces the odds, but only if the drawing cooperates, of course, LOL.

                    Anyway, I do this for Texas Cash 5, Texas 2 Step, Tx Lotto, and MM. Actually even the daily numbers games although I rarely play those games anymore. I feel like I am not using the info I keep to its fullest extent, but I have run out of ideas.

                    Are there any nuggets of wisdom out there?

                    By the way, I don't play 20 lines each drawing. Just way too much $. I understand the chances are better with more lines, but with a kid in college who happens to be high maintenance that just ain't in the cards. S I try to do with 1 or 2 lines.

                    Your issue could be perfectly sloved by digital wheels.Using all 32 numbers for 6/49 lotteries,and guanarate a 5 match in 64 lines with 7 numbers.

                    I have so far kept the wheel secretly and see if there is a chance to be put on LP some time after some better arrangement for selecting numbers.

                    Investment is still a problem though.

                    Hans

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                      Ok, I'll tell ya'll what I've been doing, with not much success I might add, and maybe someone there smarter than me can suggest a better use for my excel files. Since 2005, I have kept track of each number's position. For example, in MM, the number "2" has played 42 times in the 1st position, and 2 times in the 2nd position. Obviously, a total of 44 times. This is over a total of 444 drawings. So, for each number, I know how many times it's played in each position, and total number of times played. I also use this info to determine which "decade" plays most often in which position. In other words the "singles" play most in the 1st position, the "teens" most in the 2nd position, "20's" in the 3rd, "40's" in the 4th, and "50's" in the 5th. The three very best numbers in terms of most times drawn (again over 444 draws) is 14, 25, and 46. So I usually make it a point to play those three. I have tried playing combinations strictly by position, for ex, the number "14" has played 26 times in the 1st position, which is the best for any number that is not a "single", that is "1 - 9". This is useful if I decide a single going to skip a drawing. I used to play only the most frequently drawn numbers, but it dawned on me that the winning combinations are never made up of only numbers that play the most often. Of course I hoped to hit smaller prizes at least. Finally, what I am going to do next week is cut certain decades. For ex, in MM I'm not playing any singles or "50's". Reducing the field of numbers dramatically reduces the odds, but only if the drawing cooperates, of course, LOL.

                      Anyway, I do this for Texas Cash 5, Texas 2 Step, Tx Lotto, and MM. Actually even the daily numbers games although I rarely play those games anymore. I feel like I am not using the info I keep to its fullest extent, but I have run out of ideas.

                      Are there any nuggets of wisdom out there?

                      By the way, I don't play 20 lines each drawing. Just way too much $. I understand the chances are better with more lines, but with a kid in college who happens to be high maintenance that just ain't in the cards. S I try to do with 1 or 2 lines.

                      For MegaMillions, I would refine my search just back to 06/24/2005 when the matrix was last changed.  The number "2" and other numbers lower than "53" came up more frequent before the last four numbers were added. 

                      I also checked my MM file stats against LP statistics and mine were different due to some errors in my file.  I've since checked other website MM files and corrected mine.  When you are dealing with history, you want everything to be as correct as possible and try to remove any variables that aren't the same as present day drawings.

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                        Your issue could be perfectly sloved by digital wheels.Using all 32 numbers for 6/49 lotteries,and guanarate a 5 match in 64 lines with 7 numbers.

                        I have so far kept the wheel secretly and see if there is a chance to be put on LP some time after some better arrangement for selecting numbers.

                        Investment is still a problem though.

                        Hans

                        Tx does not have a 6/49 lotto. It is 6/54. Not sure what you mean by "all 32 numbers for a 6/49 lottery". Anyway, I'm not ready to pop for 64 lines in ANY one drawing. A little over budget. LOL.

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                          For MegaMillions, I would refine my search just back to 06/24/2005 when the matrix was last changed.  The number "2" and other numbers lower than "53" came up more frequent before the last four numbers were added. 

                          I also checked my MM file stats against LP statistics and mine were different due to some errors in my file.  I've since checked other website MM files and corrected mine.  When you are dealing with history, you want everything to be as correct as possible and try to remove any variables that aren't the same as present day drawings.

                          I am revising my files as well. Not really sure if the work is going to make much difference, but it will be interesting to compare the two files.