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Posted: June 24, 2010, 7:10 pm - IP Logged

Hi Random

I notice you are from Missouri and play the Mo Lottery.  I love the lottery and play everyday.  I especially like the Pick 3 and Pick4.  I do not like the RNG that missouri uses to draw numbers.  What are your thoughts and are you having much luck lately of hitting.  When Missouri was doing air blown balls I did hit quite often....but seems now nothing I can do gets me anyway.  2 out of 3 on the pick 3 and most of time 2 numbers and sometimes 3 numbers out of 4 on the Pick 4.  Would you have any advice and would you like to correspond with another avid missouri player.  If not I understand and wishing you a great day and best of luck.

atoz

 

ps my location is frontenac, Kansas which is 5 miles from the Missouri line.

atoz

I had many more hits when MO. was still a ball drop.  I do  think RNG's are biased.

Not to get off the subject of this post but here is what I think.  For every drawing the lottery

has thousands of people pick numbers and play them.  The ticket generator then sends this

information back to the main database at the lottery.  Every set of numbers they receive can

be used in many ways.  I like to say that for every set they draw they get many sets back.

If I was in charge of a lottery my first order of business would be to make money for both the

state and for the players.  Second make sure that no one could take any real adavantage of

the game.  Now, If I had this list of millions of number sets I could tell where most people place

their bets.  Most players play very close to home, meaning that they pick sets that change

very little.  Consider this Lets say that many people use birthdays as a way to choose numbers.

There are databases that have the total births for each day, month and year. You can search the

web and find how many people were born the very same day that you were.  Knowing this information

I could check it against the player ticket database and find a probabillity of how many people

played birthdays.  This is the information age, the more information the better the endevor.  

Many people think that the pre drawing test are a way to keep people from tracking the draws

but I think the main reason is to test the randomness of the RNG.  They run a couple of test

and these sets are then checked by another system and this tells them if the system has

been tampered with.   I am not saying that they are cheating but they are in it to make money.

How many times have you heard about card counting and people getting kicked out of a casino

for it.  A person that can do this very well can make some money if they don't get caught.  The

casino's invest much money to see that players do not take advantage of any weekness within

any game.  Why would a lottery work any different.   If someone did have a system that could

beat the odds it would be found out very quickly and adjustments could be made to distroy

its effectiveness.  Even ball drop lotteries have adjustments for this. A slight speed increase

more air pressure ect....  Most systems have been designed to prevent any chance of any real

advantage.  You will hear many who have a system that works and then will just quit.  This

is possiable in smaller prize games with low odds.  Think this way. A pick-3 game only has 1000

combos, two drawings a day for one year gives 730 sets or 73% chance that any one combo

will be drawn within one year.  For a 6-44 twice a week drawing it would take 67875 years to

draw 7,059,052  sets if none of them ever repeated.  A pick-3 game would only take 1.37 years.

I would say that most states that use RNG's use the same proven system.  Now if 40 states held

2 drawings every day it would take less than 2 weeks to draw 1000 combos. 

The odds for a 6-44 are 7,059,052 to 1 for a 6 of 6 hit.  Here is somthing to consider, in any one

draw of MO. lotto if $300,000 tickets were purchased with no repeats then the odds for one of

the tickets purchased hitting is about 1 in 23.  Not many people would bet on a horse with a 1 in 23

chance of winning and they would be wise.  However lotteries with much greater odds are won

every day.  People are beating the odds, our are they.   In the process of preventing anyone from

gaining advantage It must also allow winners or no one would play and both would loose.  For this to

happen the RNG would need to have a slight bias for the QP and a slight bias against the Hand picks. 

You can't have one without the other.  A QP or a Hand pick would both be random in the large scale

of things.  If I picked 1000 of each and wrote them down on paper many arguments could be made

over which is which.   Always play but add a little randomness to your sets,  Like I said they know

which numbers most players will play and If the system does have a slight bias then your best

play would be a half and half mixture.  Select a couple you want to play and then choose the rest

at random.

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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    Posted: June 24, 2010, 8:25 pm - IP Logged

    Dang !

    I just threw $75.00 on 329 straight for Florida. Oh well, tomorrow's another day.

    239 showed in Florida tonight....Dang !

    I was just kidding when I wrote this.......

    It also happens to be my area code.

     

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      Posted: June 24, 2010, 8:37 pm - IP Logged

      239 showed in Florida tonight....Dang !

      I was just kidding when I wrote this.......

      It also happens to be my area code.

       

      joker

      Double DANG

      RL

      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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        US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  


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        Posted: June 24, 2010, 8:55 pm - IP Logged

        joker

        Double DANG

        RL

        Thanx Random.

        One of the worst things is when I lose track of my intuition. I swear, yesterday at work, I told a co-worker who plays a lot of numbers daily, to play 329. I hope he played it boxed.

        It's just that when I actually do play them, they don't show. I guess consistency is the key.

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          Posted: June 24, 2010, 8:58 pm - IP Logged

          atoz

          I had many more hits when MO. was still a ball drop.  I do  think RNG's are biased.

          Not to get off the subject of this post but here is what I think.  For every drawing the lottery

          has thousands of people pick numbers and play them.  The ticket generator then sends this

          information back to the main database at the lottery.  Every set of numbers they receive can

          be used in many ways.  I like to say that for every set they draw they get many sets back.

          If I was in charge of a lottery my first order of business would be to make money for both the

          state and for the players.  Second make sure that no one could take any real adavantage of

          the game.  Now, If I had this list of millions of number sets I could tell where most people place

          their bets.  Most players play very close to home, meaning that they pick sets that change

          very little.  Consider this Lets say that many people use birthdays as a way to choose numbers.

          There are databases that have the total births for each day, month and year. You can search the

          web and find how many people were born the very same day that you were.  Knowing this information

          I could check it against the player ticket database and find a probabillity of how many people

          played birthdays.  This is the information age, the more information the better the endevor.  

          Many people think that the pre drawing test are a way to keep people from tracking the draws

          but I think the main reason is to test the randomness of the RNG.  They run a couple of test

          and these sets are then checked by another system and this tells them if the system has

          been tampered with.   I am not saying that they are cheating but they are in it to make money.

          How many times have you heard about card counting and people getting kicked out of a casino

          for it.  A person that can do this very well can make some money if they don't get caught.  The

          casino's invest much money to see that players do not take advantage of any weekness within

          any game.  Why would a lottery work any different.   If someone did have a system that could

          beat the odds it would be found out very quickly and adjustments could be made to distroy

          its effectiveness.  Even ball drop lotteries have adjustments for this. A slight speed increase

          more air pressure ect....  Most systems have been designed to prevent any chance of any real

          advantage.  You will hear many who have a system that works and then will just quit.  This

          is possiable in smaller prize games with low odds.  Think this way. A pick-3 game only has 1000

          combos, two drawings a day for one year gives 730 sets or 73% chance that any one combo

          will be drawn within one year.  For a 6-44 twice a week drawing it would take 67875 years to

          draw 7,059,052  sets if none of them ever repeated.  A pick-3 game would only take 1.37 years.

          I would say that most states that use RNG's use the same proven system.  Now if 40 states held

          2 drawings every day it would take less than 2 weeks to draw 1000 combos. 

          The odds for a 6-44 are 7,059,052 to 1 for a 6 of 6 hit.  Here is somthing to consider, in any one

          draw of MO. lotto if $300,000 tickets were purchased with no repeats then the odds for one of

          the tickets purchased hitting is about 1 in 23.  Not many people would bet on a horse with a 1 in 23

          chance of winning and they would be wise.  However lotteries with much greater odds are won

          every day.  People are beating the odds, our are they.   In the process of preventing anyone from

          gaining advantage It must also allow winners or no one would play and both would loose.  For this to

          happen the RNG would need to have a slight bias for the QP and a slight bias against the Hand picks. 

          You can't have one without the other.  A QP or a Hand pick would both be random in the large scale

          of things.  If I picked 1000 of each and wrote them down on paper many arguments could be made

          over which is which.   Always play but add a little randomness to your sets,  Like I said they know

          which numbers most players will play and If the system does have a slight bias then your best

          play would be a half and half mixture.  Select a couple you want to play and then choose the rest

          at random.

          RL

          extremely interesting post. i have nothing new to add but to agree.

          ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

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            239 showed in Florida tonight....Dang !

            I was just kidding when I wrote this.......

            It also happens to be my area code.

             

            Are you saying that you tossed 75.00 on a number straight and was that greedy that you could not box half of that?..Thought you was the smart one on here and knew what he was doing..And you work to?..Had you all figured wrong..Thought with your post you was making a living with the lottery....Good luck<<<--------


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              Are you saying that you tossed 75.00 on a number straight and was that greedy that you could not box half of that?..Thought you was the smart one on here and knew what he was doing..And you work to?..Had you all figured wrong..Thought with your post you was making a living with the lottery....Good luck<<<--------

              Sorry, I thought folks on here would know by now that i kid at times.

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                Are you saying that you tossed 75.00 on a number straight and was that greedy that you could not box half of that?..Thought you was the smart one on here and knew what he was doing..And you work to?..Had you all figured wrong..Thought with your post you was making a living with the lottery....Good luck<<<--------

                It appears tiggs is off his medication again.

                If anybody at the home is reading this; isn't he supposed to be strapped down in bed for the night at this time?

                Thanks


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

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                  It appears tiggs is off his medication again.

                  If anybody at the home is reading this; isn't he supposed to be strapped down in bed for the night at this time?

                  Thanks

                  Ridge and Tiggs, I sure missed you guys.

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                    I am on my second bag of popcorn!

                    Lurking

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                      Posted: June 24, 2010, 9:29 pm - IP Logged

                      Are you saying that you tossed 75.00 on a number straight and was that greedy that you could not box half of that?..Thought you was the smart one on here and knew what he was doing..And you work to?..Had you all figured wrong..Thought with your post you was making a living with the lottery....Good luck<<<--------

                      tiggs95

                      "Had you all figured wrong.. " Good luck with that one.  It can't be done.  If you can figure him out, then

                      winning any lottery should be easy for you.

                      RL

                      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                      USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                        US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                        It appears tiggs is off his medication again.

                        If anybody at the home is reading this; isn't he supposed to be strapped down in bed for the night at this time?

                        Thanks

                        Hey ridgggy babe did the piggies miss you?..Bet they was all over you when you got back..tiggs was waiting for you at the border just in case you might take a chance,he was lock and loaded..

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                          tiggs95

                          "Had you all figured wrong.. " Good luck with that one.  It can't be done.  If you can figure him out, then

                          winning any lottery should be easy for you.

                          RL

                          RL..tiggs lost you on this one..Maybe it's getting late..All the nurses are gone and they aren't here to help tiggs cipher out these tough posts..Somebody help tiggs here!!!!..

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                            RL..tiggs lost you on this one..Maybe it's getting late..All the nurses are gone and they aren't here to help tiggs cipher out these tough posts..Somebody help tiggs here!!!!..

                            OK RL got it now..tiggs can dig you..

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                              RL..tiggs lost you on this one..Maybe it's getting late..All the nurses are gone and they aren't here to help tiggs cipher out these tough posts..Somebody help tiggs here!!!!..

                              tiggs95

                              trying to figure joker17.  I gave that one up, there is no way to figure him out...HE HE 

                              RL

                              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                                US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

                                 
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