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Can a winning lottery system be created with existing math formulas?

Yes-It's all in the math books. [ 228 ]  [43.02%]
No-Anew math for will have to be created. [ 78 ]  [14.72%]
Math won't beat the lottery regularly. [ 224 ]  [42.26%]
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i believe i found a different math to decipher the lottery however, it will take too long to crunch all the combinations, to be honest it will take my computer  about a 1000 years due to the speed of my quad core computer.  The sad thing is the technology doesn't exist, to express my calculations.  But it is a way to crack this stuff.

Here is the essence of my method, and it works, just computer isn't fast enough

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/236904

    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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    Here is the essence of my method, and it works, just computer isn't fast enough

    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/236904

    If you stick with games that have only a couple of drawings a week then you will have 3-4 days to pick numbers for the next drawing.  If your computer can't do the work in 3-4 days then you probably need to recode your program.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      If you stick with games that have only a couple of drawings a week then you will have 3-4 days to pick numbers for the next drawing.  If your computer can't do the work in 3-4 days then you probably need to recode your program.

      thanks, RJoh and believe me, I"m really trying, but i think i'm suffering from mental block.  The program is unique, because it looks at numbers totally different from what I've seen on this forum, and it's hard to explain it outside of what you read. Maybe I will have a break-thru oneday, as of now everythinig is at a standstill.

        lotterybraker's avatar - pyramid
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        ok..I want to take a stab at smething here if I may..its about MATH AND COMPUTERS AND COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS.....now since I AM LACKING KNOWLEDGE, ESPECIALLY in the computer and programming world...I do not mind being corrected here at all..but I have a few questions and answers I want to share...

        1. IS IT true...that ALL COMPUTERS WORK OFF OF programs or algorithms THAT ARE BASED IN INPUT AND OUTPUT using mathematical calculations that are precise..for example..a scientific calculator..for TRIG...ALEBRAIC FUNCTIONS, etc...etc..etc..etc..etc...the program is already loaded into the calculator or computer and all you have to do is INPUT the SPECIFIC numbers that are pertaining to the problem that you are already working on..and it will spit out the answer...is that correct?

        2. Now if this is true..and I may not be that far off..but how can you EVEN THINK FOR A SECOND that something that is  TOTALLY RANDOM like the lottery can be solved using a calculator or a computer?

        3. Think about that for a second...if it were true...then a calculator or a computer..could solve every problem that could ever be thought of...and, the answer is..THAT IS TRUE...if the program can account for th input that is CONCRETE where the output will also be concrete...

        example...A=LxW...

        4. Now as far I know..every formula I have ever seen requires a some kind of number value for the program to work right..no matter what formula that has been invented or thought of over the past 1000 years or more REQUIRES 2 THINGS...first the formula...then the variables to plug into the formula to get the answer you seek..THE CORRECT ANSWER I MIGHT ADD...

        5. All of us here at LOTTERPOST DEALS WITH RANDOM and how it works..this is what we all study everyday...that is why I have said it over and over and over again...all of us here at LP KNOWS MORE ABOUT RANDOM and how it actually works than any Mathematician will anyday of the week and twice on Sunday because this is what we study...

        6. Look at this way...when you watch a pic 3 drawing on TV or a pic 4 drawing on Tv..the pic 5, pic 6, mega millions or powerball...now think about this for a second...WHEN YOU SEE ALL THEM BALLS AND THEY DROP THEM INTO THE MACHINE AND THEY ARE AT rest UNTIL HE/SHE FLIPS THAT SWITCH TO START THOSE BALLS MOVING...do you HONESTLY BELIEVE...COME ON NOW..DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE that there is a mathematical formula or a computer that account for every movement of everyball its direction of flight in the tubes, its ability that IT WILL BUMP INTO  several other balls to change its direction...now do you honestly believe a formula can be designed and or written and put into a computer for future use...

        THERE IS NOWAY ON THIS EARTH THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN...dont get me wrong..its not that we all would not like that to happen..its just to much information there that you and even me..cannot see or have not found yet to compensate for all of the movements to gain an advantage for that nights drawing...SO..THE BEST WE CAN DO IS TRY TO COMPRESS THE TIME FROM THE PAST..FIND SOME MISSING VARIABLES THAT HAVE TO SHOW..that is missing from the past that TEND TO RUN on a somewhat regular schedule...but research is fun isnt it...we all enjoy it..trying to find something that noone has ever found before that will help us...

        Now...one more thing....all planets...asteroids...comets....alll move in specific time...the moon also for eclipses...so they can be projected FAR INTO THE FUTURE WITH EXACT LOCATION AND EXACT TIME SO WE WILL KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING is aT all times..now that is Math and at its purest form..a formula with the rigth vaiables and Voila...you get an EXACT ANSWER AND WILL KNOW year and years ahead into the future and will be absolutely correct everytime..RANDOM WILL NEVER WORK WORK THAT WAY ,...EVER...the earth doesnt rotate 1000 mph oneday and then the next day 235 miles mph and the day after...678 mph..its CONSTANT AT 1000 MPH...SO WHEN YOU HAVE A constant....you can solve everything ...but RANDOM has no constant so RANDOM cannot be solved using MATH...Math cannot be sole Random because because Random bounces around so much...you cannot get a lock on a CONSTANT VARIABLE THAT WILL ALLLOW YOU TO TAKE AND ADVANTGE OF IT IN THE SHORT TERM

        I.E..that 0-9 sequence...it bounces around so much you can not get a lock on the next drawing, the drawing afterwards...and the nextdraw...and the next draw..simpley because it bounces around to much..all of you have seen it...a missing digit from the past...it will show...but once it shows..it will change that digit out and replace it with another one and the process begins over again

        I have spent over 20 years and my MAIN FOCUS OM MY RESEARCH IS AND HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE TRYING TO SOLVE THE  NATURAL ORDER OF ARANGEMENT OF THAT 0-9 SEQUNCE and I have not found it yet..it is the HOLY GRAIL of Random..if you can solve that order..you will win the NOBEL PRISE I PROMISE YOU THAT..BECAUSE it will give you the exact time, location...of everything on the planet...lightning strikes...murders, bank robberies, car wrecks...plain crashes..ANYTHING THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET IN THE FUTURE WILL BE AND CAN BE SOLVED just by solving that natural order of arrangement of that 0-9 sequnence...but i must WARN YOU...AND TAKE THIS WARNING TO HEART...THE CLOSER YOU GET TO SOLVING IT...THOSE FIELDS will begin to expand and at an exponential pace..

        Those pretest and post test draws will and does DESTROY ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE SHORT TERM ...I.E..6 MONTHS TO A YEAR ..ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE BIG GAMES THAT ONLY DRAWS 2 TIMES A WEEK...If you get a lock on 2 of the numbers locked in to a certain position..it can and does change the LOCKED POSITION..and will change what ever else that you have found that goes with the 2 numbers you got a lock on to begin with..and that is what is designed to do..when there is that much money at stake IN ALL THE POWERBALL STATES..there is noway on this earth they are going to alloy you to get a lock on anything that will give you an advantge..and this why quick pics win more than player pics..and that is what they want...they do not want you to be able to do a workout and find a lock of any kind that will increase your odds of making any money and hurting them..so what do they do...they take out 4 drawings before they have the paying drawing...have the paying drawing...then take out some more draws afterwards...THIS DESTROYS NUMERICAL LOCKS..

        nOW THAT IS ONE SIDE OF THE COIN...you can not destroy something without creating something NEW..I will tell you all...this much is for certain..YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCURATE DATA FROM THOSE PRETEST DRAWS AND I THINK THEY HIRED stevie wonder TO DO THEIR DATA ENTRY BECAUSE JUST WHAT LITTLE RESEARCH I HAVE DONE ON THOSE BIG GAMES EVEN I have found a plethera of mistakes myself...THAT pretest and post data HAS TO BE INSERTED INTO YOUR research to have a true field that is running..and the data has to be accurate for sure...ANOTHER KEY POINT HERE...what you are looking for is this...when you make a run or workout through the past and you have inserted that pretest and post data into ONE CONTINOUS FIELD THAT IS RUNNING..you need to check the time on when what you found that was missing from the past..just how long it will take to ACTUALLY SHOW IN THE PAYING DRAW...remember powerball is running a 5:1 ratio..AND I dont even have to guess one bit..the bulk of whatever you find missing from the past will show in those 5 dead draws that does not account for anything except to mess you up.....you need to know the time it takes to find what you found MISSING TO ACTUALLY SHOW IN THE ONE PAYING DRAW...that will help you more than you know

        REMEMBER..they dont want..and will not allow you to get a lock on anything..those pre and post test will take care of that..it will destroy a single number missing in a certain position..a pair missing in a certain position..a double that is missing in a certain position..and will change other numbers that are due to show with the said above...when they say on their website that the bulk off all winners are from QUICK PICS..they are right and that is what they want...they want to sell millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of useless quickpics until some lucky person ACCIDENTLY gets the right quick pic that wins..but usually by that time happens..that games PAYOUT has already been paid for MANY MANY MANY TIMES OVER...

        Food for thought...just how hard  would it be for POWERBALL OR MEGA MILLIONS TO HAVE A BIG BUBBLEGUM mchine to roll out 5 different balls on just one draw in which that is all it should be to begin with..JUST ONE DRAW...it would not be no trouble whatsoever...NONE..heh..if we can design a spaceship to go to the moon and come back safely...I think a bubble gum machine to roll out 5 different balls could be designed by a class of 5th graders...what they are doing is not on the line of criminal activity...ITS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE...!!!!1

        "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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          ok..I want to take a stab at smething here if I may..its about MATH AND COMPUTERS AND COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS.....now since I AM LACKING KNOWLEDGE, ESPECIALLY in the computer and programming world...I do not mind being corrected here at all..but I have a few questions and answers I want to share...

          1. IS IT true...that ALL COMPUTERS WORK OFF OF programs or algorithms THAT ARE BASED IN INPUT AND OUTPUT using mathematical calculations that are precise..for example..a scientific calculator..for TRIG...ALEBRAIC FUNCTIONS, etc...etc..etc..etc..etc...the program is already loaded into the calculator or computer and all you have to do is INPUT the SPECIFIC numbers that are pertaining to the problem that you are already working on..and it will spit out the answer...is that correct?

          2. Now if this is true..and I may not be that far off..but how can you EVEN THINK FOR A SECOND that something that is  TOTALLY RANDOM like the lottery can be solved using a calculator or a computer?

          3. Think about that for a second...if it were true...then a calculator or a computer..could solve every problem that could ever be thought of...and, the answer is..THAT IS TRUE...if the program can account for th input that is CONCRETE where the output will also be concrete...

          example...A=LxW...

          4. Now as far I know..every formula I have ever seen requires a some kind of number value for the program to work right..no matter what formula that has been invented or thought of over the past 1000 years or more REQUIRES 2 THINGS...first the formula...then the variables to plug into the formula to get the answer you seek..THE CORRECT ANSWER I MIGHT ADD...

          5. All of us here at LOTTERPOST DEALS WITH RANDOM and how it works..this is what we all study everyday...that is why I have said it over and over and over again...all of us here at LP KNOWS MORE ABOUT RANDOM and how it actually works than any Mathematician will anyday of the week and twice on Sunday because this is what we study...

          6. Look at this way...when you watch a pic 3 drawing on TV or a pic 4 drawing on Tv..the pic 5, pic 6, mega millions or powerball...now think about this for a second...WHEN YOU SEE ALL THEM BALLS AND THEY DROP THEM INTO THE MACHINE AND THEY ARE AT rest UNTIL HE/SHE FLIPS THAT SWITCH TO START THOSE BALLS MOVING...do you HONESTLY BELIEVE...COME ON NOW..DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE that there is a mathematical formula or a computer that account for every movement of everyball its direction of flight in the tubes, its ability that IT WILL BUMP INTO  several other balls to change its direction...now do you honestly believe a formula can be designed and or written and put into a computer for future use...

          THERE IS NOWAY ON THIS EARTH THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN...dont get me wrong..its not that we all would not like that to happen..its just to much information there that you and even me..cannot see or have not found yet to compensate for all of the movements to gain an advantage for that nights drawing...SO..THE BEST WE CAN DO IS TRY TO COMPRESS THE TIME FROM THE PAST..FIND SOME MISSING VARIABLES THAT HAVE TO SHOW..that is missing from the past that TEND TO RUN on a somewhat regular schedule...but research is fun isnt it...we all enjoy it..trying to find something that noone has ever found before that will help us...

          Now...one more thing....all planets...asteroids...comets....alll move in specific time...the moon also for eclipses...so they can be projected FAR INTO THE FUTURE WITH EXACT LOCATION AND EXACT TIME SO WE WILL KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING is aT all times..now that is Math and at its purest form..a formula with the rigth vaiables and Voila...you get an EXACT ANSWER AND WILL KNOW year and years ahead into the future and will be absolutely correct everytime..RANDOM WILL NEVER WORK WORK THAT WAY ,...EVER...the earth doesnt rotate 1000 mph oneday and then the next day 235 miles mph and the day after...678 mph..its CONSTANT AT 1000 MPH...SO WHEN YOU HAVE A constant....you can solve everything ...but RANDOM has no constant so RANDOM cannot be solved using MATH...Math cannot be sole Random because because Random bounces around so much...you cannot get a lock on a CONSTANT VARIABLE THAT WILL ALLLOW YOU TO TAKE AND ADVANTGE OF IT IN THE SHORT TERM

          I.E..that 0-9 sequence...it bounces around so much you can not get a lock on the next drawing, the drawing afterwards...and the nextdraw...and the next draw..simpley because it bounces around to much..all of you have seen it...a missing digit from the past...it will show...but once it shows..it will change that digit out and replace it with another one and the process begins over again

          I have spent over 20 years and my MAIN FOCUS OM MY RESEARCH IS AND HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE TRYING TO SOLVE THE  NATURAL ORDER OF ARANGEMENT OF THAT 0-9 SEQUNCE and I have not found it yet..it is the HOLY GRAIL of Random..if you can solve that order..you will win the NOBEL PRISE I PROMISE YOU THAT..BECAUSE it will give you the exact time, location...of everything on the planet...lightning strikes...murders, bank robberies, car wrecks...plain crashes..ANYTHING THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET IN THE FUTURE WILL BE AND CAN BE SOLVED just by solving that natural order of arrangement of that 0-9 sequnence...but i must WARN YOU...AND TAKE THIS WARNING TO HEART...THE CLOSER YOU GET TO SOLVING IT...THOSE FIELDS will begin to expand and at an exponential pace..

          Those pretest and post test draws will and does DESTROY ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE SHORT TERM ...I.E..6 MONTHS TO A YEAR ..ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE BIG GAMES THAT ONLY DRAWS 2 TIMES A WEEK...If you get a lock on 2 of the numbers locked in to a certain position..it can and does change the LOCKED POSITION..and will change what ever else that you have found that goes with the 2 numbers you got a lock on to begin with..and that is what is designed to do..when there is that much money at stake IN ALL THE POWERBALL STATES..there is noway on this earth they are going to alloy you to get a lock on anything that will give you an advantge..and this why quick pics win more than player pics..and that is what they want...they do not want you to be able to do a workout and find a lock of any kind that will increase your odds of making any money and hurting them..so what do they do...they take out 4 drawings before they have the paying drawing...have the paying drawing...then take out some more draws afterwards...THIS DESTROYS NUMERICAL LOCKS..

          nOW THAT IS ONE SIDE OF THE COIN...you can not destroy something without creating something NEW..I will tell you all...this much is for certain..YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCURATE DATA FROM THOSE PRETEST DRAWS AND I THINK THEY HIRED stevie wonder TO DO THEIR DATA ENTRY BECAUSE JUST WHAT LITTLE RESEARCH I HAVE DONE ON THOSE BIG GAMES EVEN I have found a plethera of mistakes myself...THAT pretest and post data HAS TO BE INSERTED INTO YOUR research to have a true field that is running..and the data has to be accurate for sure...ANOTHER KEY POINT HERE...what you are looking for is this...when you make a run or workout through the past and you have inserted that pretest and post data into ONE CONTINOUS FIELD THAT IS RUNNING..you need to check the time on when what you found that was missing from the past..just how long it will take to ACTUALLY SHOW IN THE PAYING DRAW...remember powerball is running a 5:1 ratio..AND I dont even have to guess one bit..the bulk of whatever you find missing from the past will show in those 5 dead draws that does not account for anything except to mess you up.....you need to know the time it takes to find what you found MISSING TO ACTUALLY SHOW IN THE ONE PAYING DRAW...that will help you more than you know

          REMEMBER..they dont want..and will not allow you to get a lock on anything..those pre and post test will take care of that..it will destroy a single number missing in a certain position..a pair missing in a certain position..a double that is missing in a certain position..and will change other numbers that are due to show with the said above...when they say on their website that the bulk off all winners are from QUICK PICS..they are right and that is what they want...they want to sell millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of useless quickpics until some lucky person ACCIDENTLY gets the right quick pic that wins..but usually by that time happens..that games PAYOUT has already been paid for MANY MANY MANY TIMES OVER...

          Food for thought...just how hard  would it be for POWERBALL OR MEGA MILLIONS TO HAVE A BIG BUBBLEGUM mchine to roll out 5 different balls on just one draw in which that is all it should be to begin with..JUST ONE DRAW...it would not be no trouble whatsoever...NONE..heh..if we can design a spaceship to go to the moon and come back safely...I think a bubble gum machine to roll out 5 different balls could be designed by a class of 5th graders...what they are doing is not on the line of criminal activity...ITS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE...!!!!1

          lotterybreaker

          You are correct that the information needed to decipher the order of the next 3 to 6 balls will never

          be calculated in a way that could do a lottery player any good but, in my own humble opinion I think

          this part of the process is unimportant.  Regardless of which numbers will be drawn the entire set

          allready exist somewhere in the matrix.  Using past draws only gives a person a means of justification

          to believe that thier choices have some inside connection to the next draw.   There are two schools of

          thought in my view that people use when they make there selections.  One is that because some event

          has or has not happened in the near past that it will or will not happen in the near future.  Many people

          have asked how can the next draw have any connection to the past and to put it short, it does not.  Each

          drawing will happen without any regard for what has already happened.   The set drawn will come from the

          entire matrix of possible sets and each set has the same exact chance of being drawn regardless of what

          has been drawn in the past.   Each number / set has the exact same odds as it did the very first draw when

          the game started. 

          This does not mean that nothing can be done to improve ones odds but because most real improvements

          don't go far enough, most disreguard them as being of little or know help.  In a 5-39 game the odds are 1

          in 575757 for a 5of5 match.   Let's say that you pick one number to remove from the pool.  If I remove one

          ball then 73,815 sets are also removed giving you conditional odds of 1 in 501,942.  Since the reduction is

          equal to around 13% of the total sets you can expect to select a no-show ball about 87 out of 100 attempts. 

          In reality you may be correct more or less often but on average it will be very close to 8 out of 10.

          Taking this kind of chance would be considered by many as acceptable but the problem is that you still have to

          choose a set from the remaining 501,942 sets.   You may choose to remove a second number but with each

          selection the effect becomes less and less and the odds for removing a ball that does hit becomes greater and

          greater. 

          With any system or method we all face randomness.  No matter how much data we poor over or the type of analysis

          we perform.  We all must make a guess and take a chance.  Once the choice is made even if it is removing one ball from

          the pool the rest of the process must be based on math.  Lets say that you use something as simple as dividing the matrix

          in half.  Divide it any way you like and if divided equally then your  odds are 50/50 whichever half you decide to play.  This

          is nothing more than a guess and the odds will apply.  Once the cut has been made then all attempts from that point should

          be based on some type of mathematical foundation.   If not then the selection process is still random and you can expect

          to hit according to the odds. 

          I have been writting lottery software for over 20 years and have found that if you use random selections then you results

          will conform to the odds given for the game.  At some point you must turn to math and remove the randomness from your

          selection process.  I am not saying that the randomness of the draw has changed but once you make your selections then

          there is no more randomness left.   Lets say that you choose the first 287878.5 sets to play.  You either have trapped the

          winning set or it will be in the sets not selected.   From this point on your final selections should be math based giving you

          the most bang for the buck.  Most people would be amazed at how much information can be retrieved from the analysis of a

          properly formated subset.   Your random selection at the beginning of the process should be made in a way that allows you

          to do something with the sets you end up with otherwise you will be forced to make another random selection and then

          another and another until your SP is really just a long processed QP.  Your first selection may be made up of many small

          selections that are combined to trap the winning numbers in a much smaller pool  but once this is done than use math to

          pick the final set/s.

          RL

          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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            1. IS IT true...that ALL COMPUTERS WORK OFF OF programs or algorithms THAT ARE BASED IN INPUT AND OUTPUT using mathematical calculations that are precise..for example..a scientific calculator..for TRIG...ALEBRAIC FUNCTIONS, etc...etc..etc..etc..etc...the program is already loaded into the calculator or computer and all you have to do is INPUT the SPECIFIC numbers that are pertaining to the problem that you are already working on..and it will spit out the answer...is that correct?

            Computers can work with numbers and/or characters depending on the instructions they receive as was demonstrated by the IBM computer WEBSTER on the TV show JAPODY recently.  The number 6 and the characters "6" and "six" are treated differently normally but the character "6" can be changed directly into a number if you need it to preform a math function and even the characters "six" can represent a number if the computer has a set of instructions for doing it.  Computers see lottery numbers the way they are instructed to see them, as numbers or characters or both.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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               I agree with RL.

              There is enough math available to eliminate some possibilities and hone in on the better probabilities. That in itself is enough to assist in winning on a regular basis. Of course, by 'regular basis,' I'm not talking a jackpot win every drawing, every night.

              As RJOH points out, there is plenty of computing power in the home computer. Much more than necessary or available in 1988, so one only needs to craft the program to make use of, and take full advantage of that potential.

              thinktank, what you are attempting sounds similiar to "Magic Square DNA." With each line of the square 300 data points (50 draws across for 6 digit lottery) by 6000 lines, we're talking  300,000 permutations for each draw. There are 15000 20 digit combinations within that square without dealing with exotic patterns like L, V, D, checkmarks, diagonals, etc. So the problem is not populating your data points, nor in finding 20 'vowels' if you will; it is determining where the those 20 'vowels' will occur in the 300,000 number Magic Square BEFORE the draw. Unfortunately, even with several terrabytes of RAM, I can't see how you are going to decipher where these 20 vowels will fall without first knowing the 20 vowels you are searching for. Naturally, if you know these 20 vowels, you don't need to simulate 300,000 draws when you can wheel all the permutations.

              All that said, I didn't vote in the poll since I feel we are a good deal removed from the point where a person will be able to hit a few keystrokes and have the winning numbers pop up. We do have the ability to understand the rhyme and reason of numbers, which coupled with available formulas, can lead to regular wins.

              As an example, check Win D's thread on pairs...."All groups are not equal" thread.


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                lotterybraker's avatar - pyramid
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                Posted: October 19, 2011, 10:16 am - IP Logged

                Well..I can tell you each with 100% truth...that you cannot wheel a set of numbers using past date...and I know that sounds like a contradiction...but it cant be done...FOR EVERY STARTING POINT YOU CHOOSE..there will be missing parts THAT HAS TO SHOW...no if's and;s or buys; about it...for example...if you decided to go back on the big games pic 5 or pic 6..since they run slower...2-5 times aweek...respectively...the starting POINT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIEcE OF IMNFORMATION AT HAND...

                 

                FOR EVERY STARTING  POINT YOU CHOOSE..from that point..there will be missing parts...from that point of starting...NOW THOSE parts has to show...not maybe..not liklely..but ABSOLUTELY HAS TO..the problem is...when you choose your starting point...YOU STILL HAVE all those missing pieces that hasnt showed from other starting points from the past, present and the future that hasnt happened yet..this is the biggest problem..and if I had to bet all the money I have..I would bet...when you choose a starting point somewhere in the past...YOU WILL GET A PIECE MISSING HERE AND A PIECE MISSING THERE...SOMETIMES in the same draw, but mostly scatterd out in future draws one after another...

                sine you , me and noone else on this planet can find all of the those missing parts from the past and ACTUALLY GET THEM ALL TO SHOW IN ONE DRAW..is a kinard...that is not how RANDOM works...random will drop off what it owes everytime..and I DO MEAN EVERYTHIME but it will be 1 -3 digits running together, usually out of order, not locked into a certain position...that would be childs play if that happpened...

                Look at your pic 3 or pic 4...take a starting part from the past..find anything and everything that is missing and see how it appears in the future...it will give you a piece here and a piece here and a piece there...the big games works the same way...if you start a pic 3 run say September 1...and you find the single digit 0 missing...well that 0 has to show and it will at some point in the future...now..from september 1 going back and you find that the pair 48 hasnt showed yet...well sometime in the future that pair 48 will show also in the future as well..but that does not mean that the 0 was missing and the 48 pair that was missing will give you the pic 3 combo 048...it doesnt work like that...sam for big games...start september 1 and run backwards and find that digits 12. 25 and 34 ARE MISSING all from september 1st backwards...and that does not mean in the future that 12x25x34 will all show in the same draw...its a possibilti..but there is no guarantee...usually what happens they will arrive one at a time..2 if you are lucky and they will bring 3 others numbers with them...most likely...something cold, something warm..and a repeating number from the previous drawing

                Now since none of us can go draw to draw to win...a KEy POINT is to stay in ONE GROUP..2 odd 3 even...3 even 2 odd..or if you prefer...all even, all odd..you could even add in 1 odd 4 even , or 1 even 4 odd...WORK IN ONE GROUP AND ONE GROUP ONLY..that is going to be your best chance to win in the future...if you are one of those people that runs a program and changes out his or her numbers for every drawing thinking you might be on to something...well..this may hurt your feelings but you have no clue on whats going on and you are wasteing your time and money..you just as well should by a quick pic...IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT DAY...WHAT WEEK , WHAT MONTH..OR WHAT YEAR YOU USE..there will always be missing parts that has to show from the past to complete all sequences..and this is what gets most people in trouble with their workouts..they are under the assumption..well..I went back 1 year..everything should be cleared by now..and the answer is NO IT HASNT...

                My suggestion would be to START FROM THE VERY FIRST DRAWING...find everything you can think of that is missing...loook into the future and find those missing parts and see what shows with them..and keep doing that over and over and over and over and over until you reach the present...maybe your eyes will see whats going on and how things are moving and reacting to each draw

                REMEMBER...YOU DONT NEED TO KNOW ALL 5 DIGITS TO WIN PIC 5...if you can find away to get a lock on 1st postion...3rd position...and 5th position...then you can win the pic 5 by filling in the inbetween missing pieces...and as far as that goes...you can get a lock on 1st, 2nd and 3rd and win..the more locks you can find, THAT HAS TO SHOW BY THE WAY..translates into less combos you have to play...AND SINCE some pic 5;s only draws 2 or 3 times a week..I suggest you find a pic 5 that plays twice a day or 7 times a week...the more data you have to work with..the more you can find..!!!!1

                "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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                  Hello, braker, good trablho, lotteries are random, but the frequency of repetitions in certain positions shows the factor of probability. That is the repetition of an event is the secret of probabilities. But we have another factor that can predict lottery only mathematically by 100% in 60 or 70% of a bet, each lottery has its characteristic repeats (intervals) the problem and see the patterns in the matrix blank. For the prediction would have to be even more play in a lottery, a lottery example 49 / 6 to try to predict four numbers, the other two in luck, find a point of reference not to walk in circles. Example, set the fixed number of beginning and end of the bet number 6
                  It would be the minimum and maximum, and the other four play within that limit.
                  Example of a lottery pick 49 / 6
                  0:42 the other four numbers would be within 12 to 42 (30 numbers). The importance of hitting the key is fixed, not to walk in circles
                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                    In 6/49 and other jackpot type games, players are looking for their first and maybe the only jackpot win in their life time.  Until that happens they can only judge how well they are doing by the number of smaller prizes they are winning.  If their rates of winning smaller prizes are no better than the odds posted on the lottery websites then their odds of winning a jackpot aren't any better either and they are depending on luck same as a quick pick player.

                    A player may be able to use data from past drawings to improve his odds but should monitor his results to know if he's actually doing that.  From the prediction board statistics it's obvious some players are consistently better as picking winners than others proving it's possible to develop a skill or method for improving your odds of picking winners.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      braker, doubtless you missed the reason of mentioning wheeling. Let me offer a clear idea of the matrix thinktank is suggesting.

                      Take 9 sheets of 1/4' ruled, (33boxesX42boxes) graph paper. Tape those side by side. Now add nine more below that. And again. And again. Keep going...and going....until you have added 142 sheets to your original 9 block page.When you are done, your worksheet will measure 6 feet by 130 feet. You will have 297 1/4" boxes across by 5964 1/4" boxes down. (to get a true 300 by 6000 you can add more graph paper)

                      Now you fill every 1/4" box 6' across by 130' down with a random number.

                      The theory is somewhere in that 9 by 142 page Magic Square, you have the winning combination touching each other!

                      I would be more surprised if you didn't. 

                      But hey! It's a choice. Wheel 20 numbers, or tape graph paper for three days. (If you choose the graph paper, you'll need 1278 total sheets; 16-80 sheet tablets plus three rolls of tape.) 



                        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                        Looks like this thread has been abandoned, apparently no one has come up a way to use math to improve their prediction skill that they are willing to share.  Maybe they are waiting until they have a jackpot win back up their theory.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          bobby623's avatar - abstract
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                          RJOH

                          Just a thought.

                          Perhaps the problem with using math is that the lottery ball machines don't use any type of math to generate winning combinations.

                          A lot of posters here showcase their systems where addition, subtraction, multiplication, division is required. However, I've never
                          encountered an explanation of how the obvious conflict is resolved.

                          Questions are usually met with some degree of hostility.

                          I think that the folks who favor math may have finally realized that it  doesn't work.

                          Folks have been massaging lottery numbers for years. Same old techniques that produce fancy spreadsheets but never answer
                          the 'what's next' question.

                          Seems a different approach is needed - like using the power of substitution. This is my game and sticking with it!!

                          Have a good one!

                            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                            RJOH

                            Just a thought.

                            Perhaps the problem with using math is that the lottery ball machines don't use any type of math to generate winning combinations.

                            A lot of posters here showcase their systems where addition, subtraction, multiplication, division is required. However, I've never
                            encountered an explanation of how the obvious conflict is resolved.

                            Questions are usually met with some degree of hostility.

                            I think that the folks who favor math may have finally realized that it  doesn't work.

                            Folks have been massaging lottery numbers for years. Same old techniques that produce fancy spreadsheets but never answer
                            the 'what's next' question.

                            Seems a different approach is needed - like using the power of substitution. This is my game and sticking with it!!

                            Have a good one!

                            Perhaps the problem with using math is that the lottery ball machines don't use any type of math to generate winning combinations.

                            That and the fact that the combinations are randomly generated doesn't help either.  I'm sure many different approaches have been tried and all the unsuccessful ones have been shared at LP.

                             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                               
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                              mayhem's avatar - 142g5yd
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                              Perhaps the problem with using math is that the lottery ball machines don't use any type of math to generate winning combinations.

                              That and the fact that the combinations are randomly generated doesn't help either.  I'm sure many different approaches have been tried and all the unsuccessful ones have been shared at LP.

                              You're right, the odds that someone would actually post a strategy that is making them a lot of money is probably greater than just winning the lottery itself. After all, people win the lottery every day, but a winning strategy that can stand up to historical analysis is non-existant.

                               

                              That said, it doesn't mean that the winning strategy hasn't been posted. There is always some truth to any failed system. You just have to take bits and pieces of all the systems and put them together in a coherent matter.

                              How you do anything is how you do everything.

                                 
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