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Mathematics and the Lottery

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Can a winning lottery system be created with existing math formulas?

Yes-It's all in the math books. [ 228 ]  [43.02%]
No-Anew math for will have to be created. [ 78 ]  [14.72%]
Math won't beat the lottery regularly. [ 224 ]  [42.26%]
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Posted: November 8, 2012, 9:32 am - IP Logged

Yes, it IS all in the books already.......

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    Posted: November 11, 2012, 6:34 pm - IP Logged

    Lottery balls are marked with numbers, but those marks could be just pictures or  letters, or colors. Not everything is solvable by math. If there would be a formula, it could be as long as DNA.

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      Posted: November 14, 2012, 10:38 pm - IP Logged

      Another math question...............

      What are my overall odds on a game

      if the 5 of 5 part is 1 in 1 million odds,

      and the bonus part is 1 in 20 ??

      If your odds of matching 5 are 1:1M then with 20 bonus numbers your odds of match 5+1 would be 20 x 1:1M or 1:20M

      Where are you guys getting your info from?

      In all my time in public education, and all the probabilty sh*t the made us sit through, i dont remember one relevant example on how to beat the lottery?  coincidence? is this some sort of conspiracy "theory"? 

      Wouldn't it be fitting to teach kids to save your allowance money and beat the lottery?

      Although the answer is always simple when explained to you,( although often it interestingly doesn't sink in for me), and i forget it 10 minutes later. I do understand the derivate, and the tangent. And brownian motion. 

      Where is stack?  I love his posts.  He is so on point with math and data.  He is so sincere in his efforts, i cant seem to pin him as a Repugnican, or a Dumbnocrat. Althought the ORACLE his is prejudices about him.  Wretched ole moonshine miser.

      Politically I'm a moderate because every once in a while people from both parties have good ideas. I also understand odds so when I lived in predominately Republican or Democrat districts, I registered to vote with the majority party because the outcomes were settled in the primaries. Currently I'm living in a solid red district.

      Handicapping this past presidential election was easy just by looking at nothing but the maths. There is no point spread and the incumbent only had to win two or three of the 8 swing states making him about a 4 to 1 favorite. I wouldn't even try to handicap the popular vote because as we learned in 2000, the winner of the popular vote doesn't always win the election.

      Playing Internet poker is fun, I'm pretty good at it, and played until April 15, 2011 when the Feds seized the domains. Online horse racing wagering remains, the states are getting their cut from taxes and the Feds are collecting on wins over $600. They both can get even more revenue from Internet poker, but the Republican Party Platform called for a ban on all forms of Internet gambling and no amount of home grown spin will change that fact.

      " i dont remember one relevant example on how to beat the lottery?"

      I don't know about beating any lottery game, but in just about in every state pick-3 game, the payoffs are averaging about 50%. Some states average over $1 million a day in sales so it means someone is getting their share of a half million every day. Only five predictor on LP have over a 100% life time prize ratio and 100% only means breaking even.

      Almost everybody will tell you the odds against one digit being being drawn in the pick-3 game is 9 to 1, but that one digit appears in 27.1% of the combos. 729 ways to lose compared to 271 ways to win are odds of 2.7 to 1. Math teachers should teach the kids the correct way to figure percentages and maybe when their adults, they won't use their ideology to handicap presidential elections.

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        Posted: November 27, 2012, 12:33 pm - IP Logged
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          Posted: December 3, 2012, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

          There is other forces that dictates outcome .

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            Posted: December 14, 2012, 5:58 pm - IP Logged

            Politically I'm a moderate because every once in a while people from both parties have good ideas. I also understand odds so when I lived in predominately Republican or Democrat districts, I registered to vote with the majority party because the outcomes were settled in the primaries. Currently I'm living in a solid red district.

            Handicapping this past presidential election was easy just by looking at nothing but the maths. There is no point spread and the incumbent only had to win two or three of the 8 swing states making him about a 4 to 1 favorite. I wouldn't even try to handicap the popular vote because as we learned in 2000, the winner of the popular vote doesn't always win the election.

            Playing Internet poker is fun, I'm pretty good at it, and played until April 15, 2011 when the Feds seized the domains. Online horse racing wagering remains, the states are getting their cut from taxes and the Feds are collecting on wins over $600. They both can get even more revenue from Internet poker, but the Republican Party Platform called for a ban on all forms of Internet gambling and no amount of home grown spin will change that fact.

            " i dont remember one relevant example on how to beat the lottery?"

            I don't know about beating any lottery game, but in just about in every state pick-3 game, the payoffs are averaging about 50%. Some states average over $1 million a day in sales so it means someone is getting their share of a half million every day. Only five predictor on LP have over a 100% life time prize ratio and 100% only means breaking even.

            Almost everybody will tell you the odds against one digit being being drawn in the pick-3 game is 9 to 1, but that one digit appears in 27.1% of the combos. 729 ways to lose compared to 271 ways to win are odds of 2.7 to 1. Math teachers should teach the kids the correct way to figure percentages and maybe when their adults, they won't use their ideology to handicap presidential elections.

            " i dont remember one relevant example on how to beat the lottery?" Probability is about odds. The game is about the payouts. If you mix both you get expectancy. Lottoboner might have learned the odds at school but not the expectancy. The only thing that you have in your hand is how much you are prepared to loose. If there was a sure way to predict numbers, we might have a good go at it.

            There was François-Marie Arouet who became rich with a French lottery. "... À son retour d’Angleterre, il n’a que quelques économies qu’il s’emploie activement à faire fructifier. Il gagne un capital important (avec d’autres et sur une idée du mathématicien Charles Marie de La Condamine) en participant à une loterie d’État mal conçue."

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              Posted: December 14, 2012, 6:05 pm - IP Logged

              Our dear Canadian professor also played the lotterie in France and left after winning as sum. He nearly had no money left after having pumped all his money into lottery tickets.


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                " i dont remember one relevant example on how to beat the lottery?" Probability is about odds. The game is about the payouts. If you mix both you get expectancy. Lottoboner might have learned the odds at school but not the expectancy. The only thing that you have in your hand is how much you are prepared to loose. If there was a sure way to predict numbers, we might have a good go at it.

                There was François-Marie Arouet who became rich with a French lottery. "... À son retour d’Angleterre, il n’a que quelques économies qu’il s’emploie activement à faire fructifier. Il gagne un capital important (avec d’autres et sur une idée du mathématicien Charles Marie de La Condamine) en participant à une loterie d’État mal conçue."

                Well things like the lottery master guide could be taught in schools, as well as odds and payout, or expectancy.

                I have found that to win the lottery you really must only (count of N)X3 variables.

                Where N is the amount of balls and the consider variables are

                Adjacent Left or Adjacent right.

                these variables coincidentally also follow the PatriotTM

                it mostly is a means of timing.

                My math is bad because i had some sucky math teachers, also because i was out of school when we learned multiplication tables, so i am kind of slow, and i subtracted backwards for a long time, ( remembered the correct way by watching youtube), but have forgetten again the correct way.

                Also i think Serges math is better than mine because of his proximity to greece.

                The fumes from the oracle better diffuse to belgium than to america thus giving belgians a more intuitive feeling for math.  And Fracois-Marie blah blah, also could become rich, because the fumes diffuse to france very well.

                Those in great britain do worse in math because of the high winds over the english channel, taking the delphic gaseaous wisdom and diluting it greatly.

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                  Posted: December 15, 2012, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

                  To know math, you have to study math at university.

                  I have not learnt much of it.

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                    Posted: December 17, 2012, 12:26 am - IP Logged

                    " i dont remember one relevant example on how to beat the lottery?" Probability is about odds. The game is about the payouts. If you mix both you get expectancy. Lottoboner might have learned the odds at school but not the expectancy. The only thing that you have in your hand is how much you are prepared to loose. If there was a sure way to predict numbers, we might have a good go at it.

                    There was François-Marie Arouet who became rich with a French lottery. "... À son retour d’Angleterre, il n’a que quelques économies qu’il s’emploie activement à faire fructifier. Il gagne un capital important (avec d’autres et sur une idée du mathématicien Charles Marie de La Condamine) en participant à une loterie d’État mal conçue."

                    The lotteries payoff odds are generally 50% of the probable odds in pick-3 and pick-4 games. The closest any group came to beating a lottery was a couple months ago when Kentucky paid out 97% of their pick-3 sales for an entire month. Kentucky does payoff at 60% of the true odds.


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                      Posted: December 17, 2012, 12:35 am - IP Logged

                      This article doesn't target the lottery specifically, but it's applicable, nonetheless...

                      http://www.wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems


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                        Posted: December 17, 2012, 1:39 am - IP Logged

                        To know math, you have to study math at university.

                        I have not learnt much of it.

                        I disagree.

                        First of all there is math.

                        Then there is probability.

                        Then there is chaos theory.

                        Chaos theory probably encompasses all three, and quantum mechanics and calculus and even some addition and subtraction.

                        To know math all you have to do is understand the cookie monster.

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                          Posted: December 17, 2012, 5:15 pm - IP Logged

                          The lotteries payoff odds are generally 50% of the probable odds in pick-3 and pick-4 games. The closest any group came to beating a lottery was a couple months ago when Kentucky paid out 97% of their pick-3 sales for an entire month. Kentucky does payoff at 60% of the true odds.

                          Generally the expectancy is under 50%.


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                            Posted: December 17, 2012, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

                            Generally the expectancy is under 50%.

                            Generally you cant win with losing numbers.

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                              Posted: December 18, 2012, 7:03 am - IP Logged

                              Generally you cant win with losing numbers.

                              Then start playing the other ones. Green laugh

                                 
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