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Mathematics and the Lottery

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Can a winning lottery system be created with existing math formulas?

Yes-It's all in the math books. [ 228 ]  [43.02%]
No-Anew math for will have to be created. [ 78 ]  [14.72%]
Math won't beat the lottery regularly. [ 224 ]  [42.26%]
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Posted: November 29, 2013, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

Stefan Mandel won like 14 more times and counting since then ..so there's your math genius at work.

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    Posted: November 30, 2013, 5:16 am - IP Logged

    Would the price money have changed in the years?

    Wouldn't the chance have become smaller?

    Aren't computer programs accessible to everyone today?

    Isn't it you who doesn't have the courage to play a huge amount of money?


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      Would the price money have changed in the years?

      Wouldn't the chance have become smaller?

      Aren't computer programs accessible to everyone today?

      Isn't it you who doesn't have the courage to play a huge amount of money?

      Can you define huge?

      And how much are you willing to spend before you get TOO DEEP?

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        Posted: December 14, 2013, 11:57 am - IP Logged

        Can you define huge?

        And how much are you willing to spend before you get TOO DEEP?

        Do you mean like big?

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          Posted: December 15, 2013, 3:51 pm - IP Logged

          Stefan Mandel won like 14 more times and counting since then ..so there's your math genius at work.

          Stefan Mandel and his syndicate look for lotteries with jackpots amounts that far exceed the cost of buying every possible combinations.  There just aren't that many such games around since he tried that and won the Virginia lottery back in 1992 with only 8M possible combinations.  Most lotteries today are won long before they reach that point.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: December 16, 2013, 10:34 am - IP Logged

            Stefan Mandel and his syndicate look for lotteries with jackpots amounts that far exceed the cost of buying every possible combinations.  There just aren't that many such games around since he tried that and won the Virginia lottery back in 1992 with only 8M possible combinations.  Most lotteries today are won long before they reach that point.

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              Posted: December 23, 2013, 12:05 am - IP Logged

              So many ways to see things

              http://phys.org/news/2013-12-days-pascal-triangular-christmas.html

              You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

              Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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                Posted: January 11, 2014, 8:03 am - IP Logged

                Missouri Lotto - Draw Method:Computer Random Number Generator (RNG)

                Game = 6 out of  44

                odds 6 of 44 = 1 in 7,059,052

                odds 5 of 44 = 1 in 1,086,008

                odds 4 of 44 = 1 in 135,751

                Date Range 01/03/2009 - 11/27/2013; number of games played 512 games.

                Fact - In the date range shown above - 281 games of the 512 have had 4 of 6 of the same numbers hitting more than once or 54.88% of the Total Drawings.

                Don't believe me - Go To MY File --  https://app.box.com/s/cje5ah2gldsaccok46gi  - There are 14 pages to this file on box.com Go to bottom of page to view.

                I put the 281 games into 104 Groups.  Here is my Group(GRP) 20 listed Below.  Here you have 5 of 6 (02, 08, 14, 21, 32) matched 2x in the 512 drawings to date in the time frame listed above.  Also (02, 07, 14, 21, 32).

                 

                *************       GRP
                2009-05-2027814213220
                2013-06-2225814213220
                2013-08-10271421253220
                2013-11-2325828313220
                *************       

                I just want to point out that there is a big difference betweed odds in winning vs. chances in winning.  If you think the above was just a Fluk, think again.

                Here is my Group(GRP) 65 listed below.  Here you have 5 of 6 again (10, 12, 16, 33, 44) matched 2x in the 512 drawings to date in the time frame listed above.

                *************       GRP
                2010-05-2610121632334465
                2012-08-0410121627334465
                2011-05-21341012323365
                2012-06-027162032334465
                *************       

                 Good Luck & Best Wishes To ALL.......................................... QUESTION EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                These are just 2 Groups out of 104.

                What criteria do you use to separate the 575,757 combo's into a particular group?  And do you have indicators telling you which group to play?

                 

                 

                As an observation, using 104 groups would populate each group with 5500+ combo's.

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                  You are reading far too much into this.  If you go to my file - it tells you exactly what I am doing at the very top of the file.  Where did you get the "575,757 combos" beats the heck out of me.  And, where do you get the 5500+ combos per group?  It appears you are trying to turn a mole hill into a mountain. 

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                    Intermezzo with coin flips. I flipped a coin 1 million times. Just joking, I simulated in Excel.

                    1,000,000 flips

                    Hits 2nd side: 501000

                    Series:

                    1:124616

                    2:62302

                    3:31185

                    4:15932

                    5:7851

                    6:3888

                    7:1964

                    8:1018

                    9:514

                    10:239

                    11:129

                    12:67

                    13:27

                    14:11

                    15:9

                    16:4

                    17:2

                    20:1

                    25:1

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                      Posted: January 30, 2014, 8:38 am - IP Logged

                      Above I left out the unfinished last series.

                      Including all: Flips: 10, Total ones: 5, Series of one: 2:1 3:1 , Random: 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0

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                        Posted: February 3, 2014, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

                        Which lottery states switched from mechanical to RNG? I googled but couldn't find anything.

                        I'm destined not to live my 'lifestyle' broke even though the only reason im breathing is cause the 'lifestyle' broke

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                          Which lottery states switched from mechanical to RNG? I googled but couldn't find anything.

                          You can check the LP report card, it has which games use computer RNGs.

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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                            Posted: February 4, 2014, 7:41 am - IP Logged

                            What was the reason to change from machines to computers?

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                              What was the reason to change from machines to computers?

                              IMHO
                              1. Cheaper than ball machines which have a high maintenance cost.
                              2. Drawings are quicker, and cheaper. Fewer employees required. Not a lot of extra paperwork.
                              3. Allow drawings to be held behind closed doors.
                              4. Give lottery ability to cheat. There have been instances where code was changed to give the lottery
                              an advantage. However, attentive players discovered and exposed the cheating.
                              5. Although many players have demanded computers be scrapped, lottery officials ignore them. They, operators, apparently
                              find that operating in secret provides hidden opportunities to increase profits.

                              There may be more.
                              Todd knows!

                                 
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