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Will the U.S debt ceiling be increased?

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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
Way back up in them dadgum hills, son!
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Posted: August 3, 2011, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

That’s it? Sensation over substance?

Are you really a liberal playing the devil’s
advocate. Are you my BFF or what!?

Her best demographic are old men like yourself dreaming of a MILF. You leg humpers are something
else. I think she screwed Alaska and big oil enough as the whole of Alaska. Too bad
real educated and professional women do not care for the wink and a smile grifter. There are some savy women who are not buying her glam.

I would try to explain to your Sully the basics of a budget and living responsibly within one’s
means but it is like talking to Palin. Cutting taxes has nothing to do with
being fiscally responsible unless you want to ignore your debt. I think Stack
explained it real good. THE BANK WANTS ITS MONEY. NO MORE FREE RIDES. Talk to
someone who went bankrupt and still had to pay their debt. We cannot just walk
away from this in a court of law. The governing authority with jurisdiction is going
over the details right now.

(our failure hurts China and makes England strong. It is economic brinkmanship, Bank to bank)

You should send Palin some more money so she can give it to TEA
Baggers who will not carry the Tea-bag line in DC when the votes are tallied.
Next spring it will be election news when the budget comes back with INTEREST
on the debt. Try to pin that on the Pres. and the Dem’s; the Pubs will agree, but not the baggers. Two terms buddy!

http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2011/08/03/8357/tea-party-raises-taxes-on-students/

Most SarahPAC recipients voted for debt limit increase http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/most-sarahpac-recipients-voted-debt-limit-increase-191814649.html 

 WTH? I thought they were supposed to vote the way Palin paid them to vote!

Yeah, I hit the nail on the head didn't I?

Sarah's hotter than Georgia Asphalt and you know it.

Meanwhile there's you.

You call yourself Cat Woman.

But you're really Cow Woman.

Ain'tcha?


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

 

 


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    Yeah, I hit the nail on the head didn't I?

    Sarah's hotter than Georgia Asphalt and you know it.

    Meanwhile there's you.

    You call yourself Cat Woman.

    But you're really Cow Woman.

    Ain'tcha?

    Click Here For Some Nourishment...

      sully16's avatar - sharan
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      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/bohemian-grove-where-the-rich-and-powerful-go-to-misbehave/2011/06/15/AGPV1sVH_blog.html

       

      There is a way for you to get in the gate, but you won't see much lying on your back. I knew someone who lived in the town just outside of the grove. They would bring the women in by the carload.

      Partyand a good time was had by all

      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

      For a lead role in a cage?

       

                                                  From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"


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        "One of the huge problems is ignorance."

        I agree with this statement, wholeheartedly!

        Jarasan, that video was very cleverly produced.  Although it contains some interesting and worthwhile information, it unfortunately ignores the primary modern distortions of Republics and Democracies, the ones caused by the interference of corporations, especially the multinational variety.  You may believe that "Plutocracy" and "Corporatocracy" are just forms of Oligarchy, but you should question why the video's producers didn't at least make a sidelong reference to them.  In fact, in two(2) viewings, I didn't hear or see the word corporation even once!

        Once corporations attained "person" status in the 19th century, our Democratic Republic started its march toward Oligarchy.  Corporate boardrooms are filled with people who want you to forsake Democracy, assuring you that you will be saving our Republic.  What they fail to tell you is, under their UNDEFINED system, WHO will administer their Rule Of Law, a characterization they know you admire.  Just as importantly, they fail to tell you HOW these "administrators" will be chosen!  They don't because they know you would object to being ruled from corporation boardrooms!

        Watch the video again, this time with my comments in mind.  Another thing to be aware of during your 2nd viewing should be the extremely negative connotations given to all the "isms" described, but with a very light treading over Oligarchy.  I believe it's because it's what the producers are striving for.   Don't believe me - watch it again!

        By the way, do you know who "nomoreliblabcon" is?  While viewing this video in Youtube, click on "nomoreliblabcon."

        Since I took the time to view this video twice (22 minutes) and post my reactions to it, I hope you'll do me the courtesy of viewing a SHORT video explaining Corporatocracy and a short article describing Plutocracy.  Note that both of the authors are well known, and clearly identify themselves.

        Plutocracy (Robert Reich)

        http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/10/18/the_perfect_storm

        Corporatocracy (John Perkins)

        http://www.johnperkins.org/?page_id=9

        --Jimmy4164

        The Perfect Storm

        America is becoming a plutocracy

        More and more wealth in fewer and fewer hands, secret campaign donations: It's a perfect storm

        By Robert Reich

        It’s a perfect storm. And I’m not talking about the Democrats. I’m talking about our system of democratic capitalism.

        First, income in America is now more concentrated in fewer hands than it’s been in 80 years. Almost a quarter of total income generated in the United States is going to the top 1 percent of Americans.

        The top one-tenth of 1 percent of Americans now earn as much as the bottom 120 million of us.

        Who are these people? With the exception of a few entrepreneurs like Bill Gates, they’re top executives of big corporations and Wall Street, hedge-fund managers, and private equity managers. They include the Koch brothers, whose wealth increased by billions last year and who are now funding Tea Party candidates across the nation.

        Which gets us to the second part of the perfect storm. A relatively few Americans are buying our democracy as never before. And they’re doing it completely in secret...

        Click Here for The Rest of the Story...


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          Yeah, I hit the nail on the head didn't I?

          Sarah's hotter than Georgia Asphalt and you know it.

          Meanwhile there's you.

          You call yourself Cat Woman.

          But you're really Cow Woman.

          Ain'tcha?

          Yea you got me there.

          I am no beauty queen, my tummy (apron) is hanging at my knees with my breasts
          and I always use a cart to ride in when I grocery shop. I still draw second glances
          though, and I got more than what Sarah has to offer – and the men know it.

          No need to dress up to go to the dollar store like at Wal-Mart, so between my
          pajamas and my polyester running tights
          I keep a simple wardrobe. Our daughter is a big girl too but she can still push
          a grocery cart and drive my handicap van.

          If I want to use Cat woman’s avatar and quote her, all I can
          say is it is a lot better than that boy
          lover poet creep you parade around as.

          You are my BFF ever since you told me that joke about the
          bag of flour and the wet spot. I still remember ever so fondly the night we
          rolled the hay and then the whole barn.
          You are a devil with that Jack. The pet
          name for me you kept yelling, ‘Oh Calcutta’ has recently been inked in a
          special place, for your eyes only.Love

          I would have met up with you again at the grove on visitor
          night, but I could not get in the golf cart at the parking lot. I do not ride on the forks of a hyster.

          Your daughter says hi daddy-kins. She hopes you get the tax
          break you need so you can start up paying her support again.Lovies

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            Harbinger
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            Posted: August 4, 2011, 1:18 pm - IP Logged

            The Perfect Storm

            America is becoming a plutocracy

            More and more wealth in fewer and fewer hands, secret campaign donations: It's a perfect storm

            By Robert Reich

            It’s a perfect storm. And I’m not talking about the Democrats. I’m talking about our system of democratic capitalism.

            First, income in America is now more concentrated in fewer hands than it’s been in 80 years. Almost a quarter of total income generated in the United States is going to the top 1 percent of Americans.

            The top one-tenth of 1 percent of Americans now earn as much as the bottom 120 million of us.

            Who are these people? With the exception of a few entrepreneurs like Bill Gates, they’re top executives of big corporations and Wall Street, hedge-fund managers, and private equity managers. They include the Koch brothers, whose wealth increased by billions last year and who are now funding Tea Party candidates across the nation.

            Which gets us to the second part of the perfect storm. A relatively few Americans are buying our democracy as never before. And they’re doing it completely in secret...

            Click Here for The Rest of the Story...

            Thanks for changing your avatar!

            Robert Reich is an idiot.  He was interviewed recently and he  said more of the same crap stimulus will cure our high unempolyment and bad economy.

            That video was not intended to be clever,  that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years.  Take it or leave it,  nothing more nothing less. 

            That is precisely why the Feds and ALL over-bearing govts. need to get out of the way of the American economic engine.  Obama's administration is pouring sand into the fuel system of the US economy,  to much f'ing GOVERNANCE.

            The dow is down 250 again:

            http://finance.yahoo.com/

            Whoops no its - 308.


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              The Perfect Storm

              America is becoming a plutocracy

              More and more wealth in fewer and fewer hands, secret campaign donations: It's a perfect storm

              By Robert Reich

              It’s a perfect storm. And I’m not talking about the Democrats. I’m talking about our system of democratic capitalism.

              First, income in America is now more concentrated in fewer hands than it’s been in 80 years. Almost a quarter of total income generated in the United States is going to the top 1 percent of Americans.

              The top one-tenth of 1 percent of Americans now earn as much as the bottom 120 million of us.

              Who are these people? With the exception of a few entrepreneurs like Bill Gates, they’re top executives of big corporations and Wall Street, hedge-fund managers, and private equity managers. They include the Koch brothers, whose wealth increased by billions last year and who are now funding Tea Party candidates across the nation.

              Which gets us to the second part of the perfect storm. A relatively few Americans are buying our democracy as never before. And they’re doing it completely in secret...

              Click Here for The Rest of the Story...

              Jarasan says, "...that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years."

              Jimmy4164 replies, "Oh, I see ... and who is (are) 'nomoreliblabcon' ??  I guess that question slipped your mind."

              I hope everyone clicks on "nomoreliblabcon" while viewing Jarasan's video at YouTube...

              Whether Jarasan agrees with my sources or not, at least I can point to and name them!

              Jarasan also forgot about John Perkins on Corporatocracy...

              http://www.johnperkins.org/?page_id=9

              --Jimmy4164


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                Thanks for changing your avatar!

                Robert Reich is an idiot.  He was interviewed recently and he  said more of the same crap stimulus will cure our high unempolyment and bad economy.

                That video was not intended to be clever,  that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years.  Take it or leave it,  nothing more nothing less. 

                That is precisely why the Feds and ALL over-bearing govts. need to get out of the way of the American economic engine.  Obama's administration is pouring sand into the fuel system of the US economy,  to much f'ing GOVERNANCE.

                The dow is down 250 again:

                http://finance.yahoo.com/

                Whoops no its - 308.

                Dunning-Krugar!

                Don’t trust anyone who is smarter than yourself, especially if facts are involved. Listen to El
                Rush-Bo. Don’t trust what is taught in schools either, it is leftist socialist
                communistic crap! That crap comes from the government, so it has to be evil. But
                who is selling it to the government????? 'sup with dat?

                I did not know the Fed was a Government, but I agree all
                governments are overbearing, in fact a king would say that too. We need a king
                and abolish civil government that people can mess up. If we don’t like what the
                king does or says, he can lop off our heads.

                As for sand in the fuel system, would it not be more effective if it was in the oil pan? A king would go for the oil pan so you know they are smarter.

                Does anybody know about the textbooks and who decides what
                is taught in school? Anybody? Who forms public opinion at the textbook level?
                Certainly not a king.

                Down we go the slippery slope, mua-ha-ha-ha-haaa!

                Oh my! My portfolio is going down the drain. What will I do?
                My modest wealth and savings for my future is going away. Who will have it?
                What will my future be? Who cares about the country, what about ME? I need financial
                security, I need economic stability, I need hope! I need a big bunch of money to live securely.

                Oh great king, bring us back to the gates of Camelot. Comfort us with the balm of bag! Forge thy coin that shall not wither and work me like a borrowed mule so I may bawl through the dark night of the soul. Bring us, oh great and powerful king out of this pinch of chaos. Bring us political perfection and peace so my soul may have a morsel
                of bread to be nourished with. Let not thy electricity fail, nor thy freezer
                servant, nor thy fridge servant so we may have food in time of need for I freaketh-out
                in much uncertainty and my gut-bag yearneth to run down my leg. Give your subjects oh great king the hope of
                thy terrible goodness so the world may sup whirled peas from thy blackened
                kettle forged on hell’s coals. Oh come to us great king in our moment of great
                need and tell us which side our bread was once buttered on! Give me gas for my ford, O great lord and king
                and let me sleep in it without taxes so I may pay tribute to your goodness in
                all that my being can muster. Let not the radio fail, nor the battery leak so I
                may hear thy voice, for thou hast a voice that is smooth and slicker than okra
                on a spoon, and that I may give ear to obedience at thy voice and thy precepts that
                are for my bony carcass. Let not the commonwealths fail that are under thy scepter
                and give us a jolly good show at the Olympics and the following G-8 where we
                may glorify you in all your dominion throughout the world, the world about to
                end, Amen.

                Everything you know is wrong.

                  rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                  Yea you got me there.

                  I am no beauty queen, my tummy (apron) is hanging at my knees with my breasts
                  and I always use a cart to ride in when I grocery shop. I still draw second glances
                  though, and I got more than what Sarah has to offer – and the men know it.

                  No need to dress up to go to the dollar store like at Wal-Mart, so between my
                  pajamas and my polyester running tights
                  I keep a simple wardrobe. Our daughter is a big girl too but she can still push
                  a grocery cart and drive my handicap van.

                  If I want to use Cat woman’s avatar and quote her, all I can
                  say is it is a lot better than that boy
                  lover poet creep you parade around as.

                  You are my BFF ever since you told me that joke about the
                  bag of flour and the wet spot. I still remember ever so fondly the night we
                  rolled the hay and then the whole barn.
                  You are a devil with that Jack. The pet
                  name for me you kept yelling, ‘Oh Calcutta’ has recently been inked in a
                  special place, for your eyes only.Love

                  I would have met up with you again at the grove on visitor
                  night, but I could not get in the golf cart at the parking lot. I do not ride on the forks of a hyster.

                  Your daughter says hi daddy-kins. She hopes you get the tax
                  break you need so you can start up paying her support again.Lovies

                  I knew it.

                  Now as to your prior claims of being a male?


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

                  "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                              --Edmund Burke

                   

                   


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                    I knew it.

                    Now as to your prior claims of being a male?

                    Just trying to shine up to your avatar’s love for men. Tee-hee!

                    Your little princess wants you to escort her to the prom next
                    year. She will need a dress too.

                     She outgrew the potatoe sack you sent her for her birthday several years ago. Some shoes would be
                    nice too.

                    She promised not to call you a litle prick any more, so the medication seems to be working, but she still bites her nails off all the time. Don't worry, there is still enough nail left for some polish when it is prom night.


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                      Jarasan says, "...that video is for setting the record straight on the leftist crap taught in public schools for the past 40 years."

                      Jimmy4164 replies, "Oh, I see ... and who is (are) 'nomoreliblabcon' ??  I guess that question slipped your mind."

                      I hope everyone clicks on "nomoreliblabcon" while viewing Jarasan's video at YouTube...

                      Whether Jarasan agrees with my sources or not, at least I can point to and name them!

                      Jarasan also forgot about John Perkins on Corporatocracy...

                      http://www.johnperkins.org/?page_id=9

                      --Jimmy4164

                      What video????


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                        What video????

                        http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2156125

                        By the way, what happened to your interest in France?


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                          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2156125

                          By the way, what happened to your interest in France?

                          Sank-you.

                          Oh my gosh! I never
                          knew that France went to hell from their
                          involvement in our American revolution! 
                          You mean Franklin the electrostatic wonder-boy was in France for

                          diplomatic reasons? This was never taught in American history. I thought he was
                          just a playboy and partied a lot.

                          Sounded like our revolution was a little crown to crown
                          brinkmanship; England lost all interest in the new land while France later sells us the Louisiana purchase for a
                          country they helped finance. That is a win-win for the bankers of Europe. Then if I am correct, the bankers jump the
                          canal for England during WWII, and they still have control of even a greater
                          empire. Was it not nice of those bankers to present us with a lawn ornament
                          called the statue of liberty? I bet the royals in England liked that.

                          I checked out French Revolution 101 here. http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/thefrenchrevolution/p/ovfrenchrev.htm

                          This was good: they went from being a monarchy to a republic
                          to an Empire. That is the pattern and natural progression. The republic was
                          good but the Empire sucked. Sounds like there was a little civil unrest, maybe
                          even a little anarchy while heads rolled?

                          I think we are entering an Empire stage. Our republic is all
                          shot to hell and most think in terms of us being a democracy (democracy is mod
                          rule, we now have three mobs in congress 
                          and they did not listen to the corporations that wanted this thing

                          resolved. The result is economic suicide. Our decline made a milestone. The
                          bankers changed our credit ranking from the seat of global economic power in
                          England).

                          Thank you for the link. Now I can learn about France’s
                          history that in intertwined with ours.


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                            Sank-you.

                            Oh my gosh! I never
                            knew that France went to hell from their
                            involvement in our American revolution! 
                            You mean Franklin the electrostatic wonder-boy was in France for

                            diplomatic reasons? This was never taught in American history. I thought he was
                            just a playboy and partied a lot.

                            Sounded like our revolution was a little crown to crown
                            brinkmanship; England lost all interest in the new land while France later sells us the Louisiana purchase for a
                            country they helped finance. That is a win-win for the bankers of Europe. Then if I am correct, the bankers jump the
                            canal for England during WWII, and they still have control of even a greater
                            empire. Was it not nice of those bankers to present us with a lawn ornament
                            called the statue of liberty? I bet the royals in England liked that.

                            I checked out French Revolution 101 here. http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/thefrenchrevolution/p/ovfrenchrev.htm

                            This was good: they went from being a monarchy to a republic
                            to an Empire. That is the pattern and natural progression. The republic was
                            good but the Empire sucked. Sounds like there was a little civil unrest, maybe
                            even a little anarchy while heads rolled?

                            I think we are entering an Empire stage. Our republic is all
                            shot to hell and most think in terms of us being a democracy (democracy is mod
                            rule, we now have three mobs in congress 
                            and they did not listen to the corporations that wanted this thing

                            resolved. The result is economic suicide. Our decline made a milestone. The
                            bankers changed our credit ranking from the seat of global economic power in
                            England).

                            Thank you for the link. Now I can learn about France’s
                            history that in intertwined with ours.

                            Well, based on your post here, communications are subject to interception, as feared.

                              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                              Just trying to shine up to your avatar’s love for men. Tee-hee!

                              Your little princess wants you to escort her to the prom next
                              year. She will need a dress too.

                               She outgrew the potatoe sack you sent her for her birthday several years ago. Some shoes would be
                              nice too.

                              She promised not to call you a litle prick any more, so the medication seems to be working, but she still bites her nails off all the time. Don't worry, there is still enough nail left for some polish when it is prom night.

                              You ain't a woman.

                              But you wish you were.

                              You're an old queen.

                              And that's creepy.


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

                              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                          --Edmund Burke

                               

                               

                                 
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