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Will the U.S debt ceiling be increased?

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I Agree!

 

The Media has a conservative bias?  That's laughable.  Maybe talk show, but that's because that's what the audience wants.

 

And of this talk on the Fed, the IRS and banking, Sully and Joker are 100 Percent right, but to honestly believe that it's the Conservative right that's connected to these corrupt systems and that the left is completely in the clear is also just ridiculous.

Of course the right has had plenty of blame bu Bernarke and Obama are like best pals.  Since the Congress won't pass another stimulus, Bernarke's talking about more Quantitave Easing.  To really believe that the left isn't full of Chronie-ism....  It's ridiculous.  Just compare Obama's 2008 campaigns to McCain's and then tell me the left isn't rampant without Chrony-ism.

 

"But the real reason you hardly hear any liberal talking heads on the prime airwaves is because the Conservatives who happen to be the majority of the people who control the media because of their affiliation with the elite and the ruthless gangsters like the Federal reserve, Bilderberg group, major corporations, World bank, Rothchilds, J P Morgans, and many more who don't give two schmidts about the poor and the lower middle class, won't allow the big sopnsors to support the liberal stations OBVIOUSLY. So the stations that have the most airtime have the biggest sponsors to support them, which are controlled by the elite, who in turn control the media."

 

 

If you honestly believe this is something that happens with CONSERVATIVES and not just POLITICIANS, then you sir, are the one who has his head up his butt.


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    Honey you are the one thats brainwashed, you keep complaining about the Bilderbergers and elites, do you know who you sound like, Glen Beck, thats right! The very NWO you keep talking about...YEP Glen Beck, who are these people...the ones with the Liberal agenda. WAKE UP.

    Are there folks who need help, sure there are, and those big corporations you complain about, they are going to make sure folks stay on welfare instead of living a dream, lets see , who benefits the most, Monsanto, ConAgra, Sysco, Kraft, Hershey, Walmart,Kroger Piggly Wiggly, spartan store, Oh my, do you think anyone here is Bilderberger, of F***king course they are.

    Yes they want to make and  keep America poor.

    I can't say it any clearer Sully. Below is the link where I said i didn't have any party prefences, but I was making a point about how the liberal radio stations were shut down by the Conservative corporations. Then it got all twisted around.

    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2152348If

    If you've done your homework you'd already know that the Elite want mass depopulation, so how you can say they have a liberal agenda? See, this is what I mean when I say most folks are clueless. Go and do some research that's not biased and you'll learn a great deal Sully.

    I don't listen to Glen beck because he's an idiot who is full of drama, and already found out he's just an entertainer who really doesn't believe all that stuff he says. It's just to get the ratings. Your wonderful Conservative radio.

    You are bringing two different subjects in this discussion Sully.

    If you remember Daddy Bush started touting the NWO. And his dad Prescott Bush funded the Nazi regime.

    Do some homework Sully.

      sully16's avatar - sharan
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      Posted: July 31, 2011, 4:16 pm - IP Logged

      I can't say it any clearer Sully. Below is the link where I said i didn't have any party prefences, but I was making a point about how the liberal radio stations were shut down by the Conservative corporations. Then it got all twisted around.

      http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2152348If

      If you've done your homework you'd already know that the Elite want mass depopulation, so how you can say they have a liberal agenda? See, this is what I mean when I say most folks are clueless. Go and do some research that's not biased and you'll learn a great deal Sully.

      I don't listen to Glen beck because he's an idiot who is full of drama, and already found out he's just an entertainer who really doesn't believe all that stuff he says. It's just to get the ratings. Your wonderful Conservative radio.

      You are bringing two different subjects in this discussion Sully.

      If you remember Daddy Bush started touting the NWO. And his dad Prescott Bush funded the Nazi regime.

      Do some homework Sully.

      I didn't say you had a preference, I was letting you know that the Bilderbergers, are in fact pushing the Liberal agenda, and alot of your theories are the same as Becks, he is not a Liberal.

      Winston Churchill even spoke of a NWO, Not something the Bushes created.

       HyperBe Happy.

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        I can't say it any clearer Sully. Below is the link where I said i didn't have any party prefences, but I was making a point about how the liberal radio stations were shut down by the Conservative corporations. Then it got all twisted around.

        http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2152348If

        If you've done your homework you'd already know that the Elite want mass depopulation, so how you can say they have a liberal agenda? See, this is what I mean when I say most folks are clueless. Go and do some research that's not biased and you'll learn a great deal Sully.

        I don't listen to Glen beck because he's an idiot who is full of drama, and already found out he's just an entertainer who really doesn't believe all that stuff he says. It's just to get the ratings. Your wonderful Conservative radio.

        You are bringing two different subjects in this discussion Sully.

        If you remember Daddy Bush started touting the NWO. And his dad Prescott Bush funded the Nazi regime.

        Do some homework Sully.

        Wanna hear something funny, LOL?

        Listen to this:

        "I was making a point about how the liberal radio stations were shut down by the Conservative corporations."

        LOLGreen laughLOL Didn't you read my post where I explained to you why there are no liberal radio shows to speak of, you insufferable moron?

        Here it is again,stupid!

        Nobody listens to liberal radio, hello?

        And that is well established, accepted and widely known, hello? 

        DO YOU HEAR ME NOW?
        HELLO?

        HOW FRIGGING STUPID CAN YOU BE?

        The lunacy you keep repeating comes straight from the ultra-left-wing-loons and EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT

        Don't you ever get tired of having your head up your ass?

        You're telling sully to go and do some research? HA HA HA HA HA!

        Everyone can see that you did all your "research" today and did it on the left-wing-liberal-loon sites, you idiot.

        You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          I didn't say you had a preference, I was letting you know that the Bilderbergers, are in fact pushing the Liberal agenda, and alot of your theories are the same as Becks, he is not a Liberal.

          Winston Churchill even spoke of a NWO, Not something the Bushes created.

          I don't share anything with Glen, sorry. If anything i agree with him, he stole from Alex Jones.

          Chrchill coined that term, but the Bushes and the 9/11 inside job is trying to make it a reality.

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            I can't say it any clearer Sully. Below is the link where I said i didn't have any party prefences, but I was making a point about how the liberal radio stations were shut down by the Conservative corporations. Then it got all twisted around.

            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234687/2152348If

            If you've done your homework you'd already know that the Elite want mass depopulation, so how you can say they have a liberal agenda? See, this is what I mean when I say most folks are clueless. Go and do some research that's not biased and you'll learn a great deal Sully.

            I don't listen to Glen beck because he's an idiot who is full of drama, and already found out he's just an entertainer who really doesn't believe all that stuff he says. It's just to get the ratings. Your wonderful Conservative radio.

            You are bringing two different subjects in this discussion Sully.

            If you remember Daddy Bush started touting the NWO. And his dad Prescott Bush funded the Nazi regime.

            Do some homework Sully.

            Here's some more words of wisdom from your one-hour-liberal-loon-website-education today:

            I don't listen to Glen beck because he's an idiot who is full of drama, and already found out he's just an entertainer who really doesn't believe all that stuff he says.

            Ok, then you learned that from not listening to him, hmmm...

            Gee, I wonder how you got your opinion of him then? 


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                        --Edmund Burke

             

             


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              Wanna hear something funny, LOL?

              Listen to this:

              "I was making a point about how the liberal radio stations were shut down by the Conservative corporations."

              LOLGreen laughLOL Didn't you read my post where I explained to you why there are no liberal radio shows to speak of, you insufferable moron?

              Here it is again,stupid!

              Nobody listens to liberal radio, hello?

              And that is well established, accepted and widely known, hello? 

              DO YOU HEAR ME NOW?
              HELLO?

              HOW FRIGGING STUPID CAN YOU BE?

              The lunacy you keep repeating comes straight from the ultra-left-wing-loons and EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT

              Don't you ever get tired of having your head up your ass?

              You're telling sully to go and do some research? HA HA HA HA HA!

              Everyone can see that you did all your "research" today and did it on the left-wing-liberal-loon sites, you idiot.

              You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

              This coming from a hillbilly goat humper who believes in fairytales in the Bible....Green laugh

              We can argue all day long, but the general feeling is that the media is owned and operated by very wealthy men whose views tend to be right-wing­. More importantl­y, their advertiser­s are the buddies of conservati­ve corporate America. Sure, many of the reporters might be left-wing, but their editors and publishers and owners have the last say in what they write. If you add up 99% of talk radio, plus Fox News, CNN , tons of right-wing websites, and major city newspapers like the LA Times and the Wash Post leaning farther and farther to the right, you have to notice the rightward tilt. Limbaugh's show, is given to small-town radio outlets absolutely free as part of a programmin­g/advertis­ing package. The late Air America was never given such a sweet deal.           

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                Posted: July 31, 2011, 5:42 pm - IP Logged

                I don't share anything with Glen, sorry. If anything i agree with him, he stole from Alex Jones.

                Chrchill coined that term, but the Bushes and the 9/11 inside job is trying to make it a reality.

                LOL  ThudHit With Stick  EekThudChair yikes

                 HyperBe Happy.

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                  This coming from a hillbilly goat humper who believes in fairytales in the Bible....Green laugh

                  We can argue all day long, but the general feeling is that the media is owned and operated by very wealthy men whose views tend to be right-wing­. More importantl­y, their advertiser­s are the buddies of conservati­ve corporate America. Sure, many of the reporters might be left-wing, but their editors and publishers and owners have the last say in what they write. If you add up 99% of talk radio, plus Fox News, CNN , tons of right-wing websites, and major city newspapers like the LA Times and the Wash Post leaning farther and farther to the right, you have to notice the rightward tilt. Limbaugh's show, is given to small-town radio outlets absolutely free as part of a programmin­g/advertis­ing package. The late Air America was never given such a sweet deal.           

                  HOLY SH*T!

                   

                  "the media is owned and operated by very wealthy men whose views tend to be right-wing­."

                   

                  "major city newspapers like the LA Times and the Wash Post leaning farther and farther to the right, you have to notice the rightward tilt."

                   

                  "Limbaugh's show, is given to small-town radio outlets absolutely free as part of a programmin­g/advertis­ing package. The late Air America was never given such a sweet deal."

                   

                  Well, after that I don't know what to say.

                  Except that you are incomprehensibly stupid.

                  You obviously have no shame and can't be embarrassed.

                  I'm absolutely, stunned, amazed and speechless at the depth and scope of your stupidity.

                  Any chance you're drunk?


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

                  "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                              --Edmund Burke

                   

                   

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                    LOL  ThudHit With Stick  EekThudChair yikes

                    Yeah, he fits right in with all the conspiracy-theory-loons like Delta Dipsh*t.

                    I wonder when Hale-Bopp is coming back for the next load?


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

                    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                --Edmund Burke

                     

                     

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                      Hey sully, he says that CNN leans to the right.   LOL

                      Ted Turner would kick his ass silly if he heard him say that! ROFL

                      He must be drunkStretchcuz nobody's that stupid.

                      Well... Delta Dippy might be...

                      And Nancy...

                      And the princess...

                      And Jamboogie  definitely, whoa...


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

                      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                  --Edmund Burke

                       

                       


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                        Looky looky, look what I found....

                        Ha ha....Put this in your pipe and smoke it. Liberal my ASS !!!

                        From a national survey by “Fair” which showed that the idea that the mainstream  media have a "liberal bias" has long been conventional wisdom. At various times,  public figures and media personalities from Richard Nixon, Newt Gingrich, Bill  O'Reilly, Neil Cavuto, Sean Hannity and Rupert Murdoch of Fox Networks (Rupert  Murdoch now major stock holder of “The Wall Street Journal) they and others have  all taken refuge in the claim that the "liberal" media were out to get them. A  legion of conservative talk show hosts, pundits and media-watch groups pound  away at the idea that the media exhibit an inherently "liberal" tilt. But the  assertion is based on remarkably little evidence and is repeatedly made in the  face of contradictory facts.

                        In particular, the conservative critique of  the news media rests on two general propositions: (1) journalists' views are to  the left of the public, and (2) journalists frame news content in a way that  accentuates these left perspectives. Researchers and analysts have discovered  persuasive evidence against the latter claim. Content analyses of the news media  have, at a minimum, shown the absence of any such systematic  liberal/left tilt; some studies have found a remarkably predictable press  usually reflecting the narrow range of views of those in positions of power, as  well as a spectrum of expert opinion that tilts toward the right.

                        The report goes on to say that the powerful corporate interests which own and  sponsor the news media ensure that news content never strays too far, for too  long, from protecting the status quo. You don't understand the corporate  ideology of General Motors by studying the personal beliefs of the assembly-line  workers, the argument goes. Ideological orientation is introduced and enforced  by those high in the organizational hierarchy who have the power to hire and  fire, to reward and punish. Working journalists, despite their sometimes high  visibility, usually do not call the shots in the nation's media corporations.  (The documentary "Fear and Favor in the Newsroom" provides vivid illustrations  of this situation.) Consequently, the private views of individual journalists  often matter little.

                        The latest available stats show that most  mainstream media is owned and/or controlled by the conservative lift. Large  corporations and the wealthy are able to weld major political clout because of  their media holdings. In turn they are collectively able to shape government  policy by controlling the slant of the mainstream news.


                        GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election  campaign)

                        Television Holdings:
                        * NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of  US households.
                        * NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with then  Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
                        * CNBC  business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by  NBC and Bill Gates Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo  (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).     

                        The "MS" in MSNBC
                        means Microsoft
                        The same Microsoft that donated 2.4  million to get GW bush elected and more cash for re-election.

                        Other  Holdings:
                        * GE Consumer Electronics.
                        * GE Power Systems: produces  turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
                        * GE Plastics: produces  military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
                        * GE Transportation Systems:  runs diesel and electric trains.
                        ===================================
                        WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
                        Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear  Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
                        whose #1 on the  Board of Directors? None other than:
                        Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

                        Television Holdings:
                        * CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200  affiliates in the US.
                        * CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening  News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
                        * Country Music  Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
                        * Group W  Satellite Communications.
                        Other Holdings:
                        * Westinghouse Electric  Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
                        * Westinghouse  Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous  wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
                        *  Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.  =================================
                        VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
                        Television  Holdings:
                        * Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime,  The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance  Channel (joint owner), Flix.
                        * 20 major market US stations.
                        Media  Holdings:
                        * Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video,  Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
                        * Simon & Schuster Publishing.
                        ==================================
                        DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640  thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
                        Television Holdings:
                        * ABC: includes 10  stations, 24% of US households.
                        * ABC Network News: Prime Time Live,  Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
                        * ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%),  as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
                        * Disney  Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
                        Media Holdings:
                        *  Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
                        * Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W,  Discover.
                        * 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
                        * Hyperion book  publishers.
                        * Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
                        Other Holdings:
                        * Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
                        * All Disney Theme  Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.  ==========================

                        TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to  GW's 2000 campaign)
                        America Online  (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
                        Television Holdings:
                        * CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network  Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network,  Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
                        * Largest  owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
                        Media Holdings:
                        * HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line  Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
                        * Music: Atlantic,  Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) =  the world’s largest music company.
                        * 33 magazines including Time, Sports  Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of  the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD  Magazine.
                        Other Holdings:
                        * Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta  Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
                        ============================
                        NEWS  CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
                        Television Holdings:
                        * Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US  households.
                        * Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite  networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal  Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa  Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
                        * The  Golf Channel (33%).
                        MEDIA HOLDINGS:
                        * Twentieth Century Fox, Fox  Searchlight.
                        * 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New  York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
                        * 25 magazines including TV  Guide and The Weekly Standard.
                        * HarperCollins books.
                        OTHER HOLDINGS:
                        * Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
                        *  Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
                        * Rupert Murdoch:  Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

                        *(Phillip Morris donated 2.9  million to George W Bush in 2000)*
                        Later data is being collected and is  expected to show even more dominance of the mainstream media by rich and  powerful conservatives.
                        Sources:
                        http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447

                        go to the "columbia journalism review and click on the
                        "who  owns what" link on the right side of the page

                        http://www.cjr.org/

                        The presidential donations for GW can be found at
                        http://www.boycottbush.net/bgrnd_info.htm#donors

                        U.S. Securities and  Exchange Commission


                        I guess you're gonna say this is all hype right?

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                          Joker, these exact same people donated to obama, even Bill gates. go look it up,

                           HyperBe Happy.

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                            Looky looky, look what I found....

                            Ha ha....Put this in your pipe and smoke it. Liberal my ASS !!!

                            From a national survey by “Fair” which showed that the idea that the mainstream  media have a "liberal bias" has long been conventional wisdom. At various times,  public figures and media personalities from Richard Nixon, Newt Gingrich, Bill  O'Reilly, Neil Cavuto, Sean Hannity and Rupert Murdoch of Fox Networks (Rupert  Murdoch now major stock holder of “The Wall Street Journal) they and others have  all taken refuge in the claim that the "liberal" media were out to get them. A  legion of conservative talk show hosts, pundits and media-watch groups pound  away at the idea that the media exhibit an inherently "liberal" tilt. But the  assertion is based on remarkably little evidence and is repeatedly made in the  face of contradictory facts.

                            In particular, the conservative critique of  the news media rests on two general propositions: (1) journalists' views are to  the left of the public, and (2) journalists frame news content in a way that  accentuates these left perspectives. Researchers and analysts have discovered  persuasive evidence against the latter claim. Content analyses of the news media  have, at a minimum, shown the absence of any such systematic  liberal/left tilt; some studies have found a remarkably predictable press  usually reflecting the narrow range of views of those in positions of power, as  well as a spectrum of expert opinion that tilts toward the right.

                            The report goes on to say that the powerful corporate interests which own and  sponsor the news media ensure that news content never strays too far, for too  long, from protecting the status quo. You don't understand the corporate  ideology of General Motors by studying the personal beliefs of the assembly-line  workers, the argument goes. Ideological orientation is introduced and enforced  by those high in the organizational hierarchy who have the power to hire and  fire, to reward and punish. Working journalists, despite their sometimes high  visibility, usually do not call the shots in the nation's media corporations.  (The documentary "Fear and Favor in the Newsroom" provides vivid illustrations  of this situation.) Consequently, the private views of individual journalists  often matter little.

                            The latest available stats show that most  mainstream media is owned and/or controlled by the conservative lift. Large  corporations and the wealthy are able to weld major political clout because of  their media holdings. In turn they are collectively able to shape government  policy by controlling the slant of the mainstream news.


                            GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election  campaign)

                            Television Holdings:
                            * NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of  US households.
                            * NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with then  Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
                            * CNBC  business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by  NBC and Bill Gates Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo  (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).     

                            The "MS" in MSNBC
                            means Microsoft
                            The same Microsoft that donated 2.4  million to get GW bush elected and more cash for re-election.

                            Other  Holdings:
                            * GE Consumer Electronics.
                            * GE Power Systems: produces  turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
                            * GE Plastics: produces  military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
                            * GE Transportation Systems:  runs diesel and electric trains.
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                            WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
                            Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear  Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
                            whose #1 on the  Board of Directors? None other than:
                            Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

                            Television Holdings:
                            * CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200  affiliates in the US.
                            * CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening  News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
                            * Country Music  Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
                            * Group W  Satellite Communications.
                            Other Holdings:
                            * Westinghouse Electric  Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
                            * Westinghouse  Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous  wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
                            *  Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.  =================================
                            VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
                            Television  Holdings:
                            * Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime,  The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance  Channel (joint owner), Flix.
                            * 20 major market US stations.
                            Media  Holdings:
                            * Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video,  Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
                            * Simon & Schuster Publishing.
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                            DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640  thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
                            Television Holdings:
                            * ABC: includes 10  stations, 24% of US households.
                            * ABC Network News: Prime Time Live,  Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
                            * ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%),  as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
                            * Disney  Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
                            Media Holdings:
                            *  Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
                            * Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W,  Discover.
                            * 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
                            * Hyperion book  publishers.
                            * Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
                            Other Holdings:
                            * Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
                            * All Disney Theme  Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.  ==========================

                            TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to  GW's 2000 campaign)
                            America Online  (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
                            Television Holdings:
                            * CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network  Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network,  Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
                            * Largest  owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
                            Media Holdings:
                            * HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line  Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
                            * Music: Atlantic,  Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) =  the world’s largest music company.
                            * 33 magazines including Time, Sports  Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of  the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD  Magazine.
                            Other Holdings:
                            * Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta  Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
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                            NEWS  CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
                            Television Holdings:
                            * Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US  households.
                            * Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite  networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal  Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa  Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
                            * The  Golf Channel (33%).
                            MEDIA HOLDINGS:
                            * Twentieth Century Fox, Fox  Searchlight.
                            * 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New  York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
                            * 25 magazines including TV  Guide and The Weekly Standard.
                            * HarperCollins books.
                            OTHER HOLDINGS:
                            * Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
                            *  Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
                            * Rupert Murdoch:  Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

                            *(Phillip Morris donated 2.9  million to George W Bush in 2000)*
                            Later data is being collected and is  expected to show even more dominance of the mainstream media by rich and  powerful conservatives.
                            Sources:
                            http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2447

                            go to the "columbia journalism review and click on the
                            "who  owns what" link on the right side of the page

                            http://www.cjr.org/

                            The presidential donations for GW can be found at
                            http://www.boycottbush.net/bgrnd_info.htm#donors

                            U.S. Securities and  Exchange Commission


                            I guess you're gonna say this is all hype right?

                            Jeeeze, you just keep making yourself look stupider and stupider.

                            Or do you just like to hear me repeat myself?

                            FAIR is a well known liberal-loon-website named (Fairness And Accuracy In Reporting) and set up to cover for liberal-loon media, you frigging idiot, and everybody knows that it's an arm of the democrat party. Wake the hell up, will ya?

                            If you want the truth about the media go to an independent, unbiased source like Media Research Center.

                            Please don't keep making me do all your work for you, ok, please?

                            I'm getting tired of babysitting your lazy, fat ass.


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

                            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                        --Edmund Burke

                             

                             

                              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
                              Way back up in them dadgum hills, son!
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                              Posted: July 31, 2011, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

                              Hey sully!

                              Lat's go get some "facts" from the Columbia Journalism Review and the Boycott Bush website!LOLCrazyGreen laughROFLLOL


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

                              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                          --Edmund Burke

                               

                               

                                 
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