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Will the U.S debt ceiling be increased?

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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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There is absolutely nowhere else I'd rather live than in the U.S., but If people only knew what they truly own as you stated, there would've been a second revolt a long time ago. Most of the working slobs in this country think that because they have a house and a couple of cars, they've got it made. They don't realize what the evil gangsters have in store for them. It's a prison planet for sure.

As long as there are plenty of malls to shop in and football games to watch, the masses are happy. The masses are oblivious to what's about to happen in the near future because they're too busy buying the latest gadgets to fool around with while driving on the roads. They're too busy arguing over which party is to blame for what. They're too busy listening to Rush, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and the bubble headed bleached blondes on the 6 O'clock news to get their info. And the few who who speak out are labeled as conspiracy idiots, and fear mongers.

By the time the people finally wake up, it'll be too late.

"They're too busy listening to Rush, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity..."

 

No, I don't know why anyone would say you were a liberal.

They must be a bunch of liars.

Why would anyone think you're a liberal?

That's ridiculous!


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

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    CHINA OWNS THE UNITED STATES AND IT FOLLOWS THE FOLLOWING PHILOSOPHY .OH in Cuba any child can become a DOCTOR OR WHATEVER HE OR SHE WANTS PAID BY THE GOVERNMENT OTHERWISE YOUR CHILD GOES TO CUT SUGAR CANE.

    "Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.["

    We have been a communist society in the united states since the creation of the IRS.We do not own anything, everything has been owned by the government through taxation.You can lose the lease on any property through taxes for example lands.I said lease because when you buy any property including a house, you do not own anything if you stop paying taxes.

    So we have two choices here.CONTINUE WITH OUR COMMUNIST SYSTEM OF PAYING HIGH TAXES OR LET THE GOVERNMENT DEFAULT BY NOT PAYING OUR DEBT AND BECOME A 100% FREE SOCIETY BY GETTING RID OF THE IRS and THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.NO TAXES.But again i have no problem with paying taxes to the system the way it is regardless of how much i make.

    Hermann Cane, has a GREAT SOLUTION For ending the IRS , CHECK HIM OUT.

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    For a lead role in a cage?

     

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      CHINA OWNS THE UNITED STATES AND IT FOLLOWS THE FOLLOWING PHILOSOPHY .OH in Cuba any child can become a DOCTOR OR WHATEVER HE OR SHE WANTS PAID BY THE GOVERNMENT OTHERWISE YOUR CHILD GOES TO CUT SUGAR CANE.

      "Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.["

      We have been a communist society in the united states since the creation of the IRS.We do not own anything, everything has been owned by the government through taxation.You can lose the lease on any property through taxes for example lands.I said lease because when you buy any property including a house, you do not own anything if you stop paying taxes.

      So we have two choices here.CONTINUE WITH OUR COMMUNIST SYSTEM OF PAYING HIGH TAXES OR LET THE GOVERNMENT DEFAULT BY NOT PAYING OUR DEBT AND BECOME A 100% FREE SOCIETY BY GETTING RID OF THE IRS and THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.NO TAXES.But again i have no problem with paying taxes to the system the way it is regardless of how much i make.

      The problem with this country is that we are not free at all.THE FEDERAL RESERVE is a private bank that has enslaved the united states citizens through high taxation by using the IRS.

      THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID IT , "If the American citizens ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

      THOMAS JEFFERSON BELIEVED THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT WAS TO SERVE ITS CITIZENS.We do not belong to the government, the government belongs to us.Whenever a government persecutes its citizens, it is no longer a government of the people for the people.IT IS A TYRANNY.

      WE WILL NEVER BE FREE UNTIL WE GET RID OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE IRS.ALTHOUGH I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN SUPPORTING A GOVERMENT OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE WITH WHATEVER MONEY I MAKE.

      THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE IRS ARE THE COMMON DENOMINATORS OF THE DEBT CEILING PROBLEM.THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY WITH DEBT.

        sully16's avatar - sharan
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        The problem with this country is that we are not free at all.THE FEDERAL RESERVE is a private bank that has enslaved the united states citizens through high taxation by using the IRS.

        THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID IT , "If the American citizens ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

        THOMAS JEFFERSON BELIEVED THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT WAS TO SERVE ITS CITIZENS.We do not belong to the government, the government belongs to us.Whenever a government persecutes its citizens, it is no longer a government of the people for the people.IT IS A TYRANNY.

        WE WILL NEVER BE FREE UNTIL WE GET RID OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE IRS.ALTHOUGH I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN SUPPORTING A GOVERMENT OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE WITH WHATEVER MONEY I MAKE.

        THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE IRS ARE THE COMMON DENOMINATORS OF THE DEBT CEILING PROBLEM.THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY WITH DEBT.

        YES, JFK TRIED TO STOP THIS, well the rest is History. Thanks for posting, however, there are only a few of us who are listening, sadly.

        Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

        For a lead role in a cage?

         

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          "They're too busy listening to Rush, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity..."

           

          No, I don't know why anyone would say you were a liberal.

          They must be a bunch of liars.

          Why would anyone think you're a liberal?

          That's ridiculous!

          The only reason I posted those names is because the liberals have no voice, even though I think they're all crooked.

           But the real reason you hardly hear any liberal talking heads on the prime airwaves is because the Conservatives who happen to be the majority of the people who control the media because of their affiliation with the elite and the ruthless gangsters like the Federal reserve, Bilderberg group, major corporations, World bank, Rothchilds, J P Morgans, and many more who don't give two schmidts about the poor and the lower middle class, won't allow the big sopnsors to support the liberal stations OBVIOUSLY. So the stations that have the most airtime have the biggest sponsors to support them, which are controlled by the elite, who in turn control the media.

          There was one liberal station in Miami. I forget the host's name, but she got ousted a few years back by the big corporations who control the strings. The little sponsors she did have got scared shcmidtless and ran to the hills, but what we were told was that the management was under pressure to cancel her show. I can only imagine where that pressure came from....Eek


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            The problem with this country is that we are not free at all.THE FEDERAL RESERVE is a private bank that has enslaved the united states citizens through high taxation by using the IRS.

            THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID IT , "If the American citizens ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

            THOMAS JEFFERSON BELIEVED THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT WAS TO SERVE ITS CITIZENS.We do not belong to the government, the government belongs to us.Whenever a government persecutes its citizens, it is no longer a government of the people for the people.IT IS A TYRANNY.

            WE WILL NEVER BE FREE UNTIL WE GET RID OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE IRS.ALTHOUGH I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN SUPPORTING A GOVERMENT OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE WITH WHATEVER MONEY I MAKE.

            THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE IRS ARE THE COMMON DENOMINATORS OF THE DEBT CEILING PROBLEM.THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY WITH DEBT.

            It's good to see someone that doesn't have their head up their butt...

            I posted a video about the 9 trillion unaccounted for by the Fed in my blog a few days ago. But we don't see this on the elite controlled news stations.

              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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              The only reason I posted those names is because the liberals have no voice, even though I think they're all crooked.

               But the real reason you hardly hear any liberal talking heads on the prime airwaves is because the Conservatives who happen to be the majority of the people who control the media because of their affiliation with the elite and the ruthless gangsters like the Federal reserve, Bilderberg group, major corporations, World bank, Rothchilds, J P Morgans, and many more who don't give two schmidts about the poor and the lower middle class, won't allow the big sopnsors to support the liberal stations OBVIOUSLY. So the stations that have the most airtime have the biggest sponsors to support them, which are controlled by the elite, who in turn control the media.

              There was one liberal station in Miami. I forget the host's name, but she got ousted a few years back by the big corporations who control the strings. The little sponsors she did have got scared shcmidtless and ran to the hills, but what we were told was that the management was under pressure to cancel her show. I can only imagine where that pressure came from....Eek

              "There was one liberal station in Miami. I forget the host's name, but she got ousted a few years back by the big corporations who control the strings. The little sponsors she did have got scared shcmidtless and ran to the hills, but what we were told was that the management was under pressure to cancel her show. I can only imagine where that pressure came from....Eek"

               

              Joker please, you're embarrassing yourself, I'm serious dude.

              Let me tell you where that pressure came from.

              It came from nobody listening to her show because nobody listens to liberal radio, it's too dam boring and repetitive and everybody knows it's all lies and propaganda anyway.

              Why do you think the great liberal saviour "Air America" that promised to crush Rush Limbaugh went bankrupt and off the air after two years of George Soros propping it up and paying all of their bills?

              Simple. No listeners, cuz it was so dam boring and repetitive. Bush lied! People died! Where's the WMD's? Halliburton! Cheney! Who wants to listen to whining liars all day? Nobody, that's who. Especially whining liars like Al Franken.

              You better do your homework before believing all that crap you're repeating from your left-wing looney websites.

              This is all basic stuff here that most people know.

              You're looking like a real dope.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

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                cbs, nbc, abc,cnn msnbc , pbs, npr, all liberall controlled airwaves

                fox, conservative.

                Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                For a lead role in a cage?

                 

                                                            From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                  rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                  cbs, nbc, abc,cnn msnbc , pbs, npr, all liberall controlled airwaves

                  fox, conservative.

                  Yeah, and they're all constantly at work trying to get FOXNEWS to shut up.

                  They don't want anybody hearing what's really going on in this country, just what the party controlled media tells them.

                  And there's a lotta dumb people out there who believe just what they tell them.

                  And then quote it as truth. Crazy


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

                  "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                    sully16's avatar - sharan
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                    Yeah, and they're all constantly at work trying to get FOXNEWS to shut up.

                    They don't want anybody hearing what's really going on in this country, just what the party controlled media tells them.

                    And there's a lotta dumb people out there who believe just what they tell them.

                    And then quote it as truth. Crazy

                    Ben Bernanke, Liberal, Jewish, Chairman of the Federal reserve, member of the Bilderberger group,

                    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                    For a lead role in a cage?

                     

                                                                From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                      There are 51 million on welfare probably because they can't feed their families thanks to rich greedy, wheeling and dealing upper crust who aren't happy with a mansion and a yacht, they  want two of each, so they gambled our money away in the housing market  fiasco and lost. Now everything's Obama's fault....

                      No, Joker the rich get richer when they have people working for them, not when they are sitting on the couch watching tv.

                      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                      For a lead role in a cage?

                       

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                        "There was one liberal station in Miami. I forget the host's name, but she got ousted a few years back by the big corporations who control the strings. The little sponsors she did have got scared shcmidtless and ran to the hills, but what we were told was that the management was under pressure to cancel her show. I can only imagine where that pressure came from....Eek"

                         

                        Joker please, you're embarrassing yourself, I'm serious dude.

                        Let me tell you where that pressure came from.

                        It came from nobody listening to her show because nobody listens to liberal radio, it's too dam boring and repetitive and everybody knows it's all lies and propaganda anyway.

                        Why do you think the great liberal saviour "Air America" that promised to crush Rush Limbaugh went bankrupt and off the air after two years of George Soros propping it up and paying all of their bills?

                        Simple. No listeners, cuz it was so dam boring and repetitive. Bush lied! People died! Where's the WMD's? Halliburton! Cheney! Who wants to listen to whining liars all day? Nobody, that's who. Especially whining liars like Al Franken.

                        You better do your homework before believing all that crap you're repeating from your left-wing looney websites.

                        This is all basic stuff here that most people know.

                        You're looking like a real dope.

                        Your BS is stinking up the place. Talk about Rush's same old rants everyday about Obama. You could listen to that 12 hours a day right?

                        You don't want to know the truth about the sponsors so get over it. You're BS is as bad as your religious BS.

                        If anyone needs to do their homework it's you.


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                          cbs, nbc, abc,cnn msnbc , pbs, npr, all liberall controlled airwaves

                          fox, conservative.

                          I'm talking about the radio down here. There isn't one station that has a liberal show. Not one.


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                            No, Joker the rich get richer when they have people working for them, not when they are sitting on the couch watching tv.

                            Surely there are some who live off welfare, but there are folks who can't find jobs and need food. Right here in my local town, food stamps claims shot throught the roof in one year's time. I personally know a few hard working individuals who can't put food on the table and need assistance.

                            Maybe you should watch the news sometimes instead of believing all that Republican B.S. and how everything is fine and dandy. You and Ridge need to wake up to reality.

                            And no, the rich get richer by screwing everyone below them. Boy, I can clearly see now, how they got everyone brainwashed. Scary.

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                              Surely there are some who live off welfare, but there are folks who can't find jobs and need food. Right here in my local town, food stamps claims shot throught the roof in one year's time. I personally know a few hard working individuals who can't put food on the table and need assistance.

                              Maybe you should watch the news sometimes instead of believing all that Republican B.S. and how everything is fine and dandy. You and Ridge need to wake up to reality.

                              And no, the rich get richer by screwing everyone below them. Boy, I can clearly see now, how they got everyone brainwashed. Scary.

                              Honey you are the one thats brainwashed, you keep complaining about the Bilderbergers and elites, do you know who you sound like, Glen Beck, thats right! The very NWO you keep talking about...YEP Glen Beck, who are these people...the ones with the Liberal agenda. WAKE UP.

                              Are there folks who need help, sure there are, and those big corporations you complain about, they are going to make sure folks stay on welfare instead of living a dream, lets see , who benefits the most, Monsanto, ConAgra, Sysco, Kraft, Hershey, Walmart,Kroger Piggly Wiggly, spartan store, Oh my, do you think anyone here is Bilderberger, of F***king course they are.

                              Yes they want to make and  keep America poor.

                              Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                              For a lead role in a cage?

                               

                                                                          From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                                 
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