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Will the U.S debt ceiling be increased?

YES

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[ 84.3% ]

[ 8 ]

[ 15.7% ]

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taxijohn

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Jul 30, 2011, 8:10 pm

Just wondering how many of you are with me on this one? I voted yes, it's obvious.

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rdgrnr

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Jul 30, 2011, 9:07 pm

I hope not.

I'd rather see the country go down fighting than surrendering with a whimper to the likes of weasels like obama and harry reid and then see it go down anyway.

They just want to kick the can down the road some more and keep spending like there's no tomorrow. Like they've been doing for decades.

I say it's time to draw the line - right here and right now.

If they won't stop the reckless spending then we have to force them to.

They should all go to prison for what they've done to this country.

And the fact of the matter is that they'll still have plenty of income to pay all our major obligations anyway. They would just have to cut out all their pet projects and the looniest of all the loony things they spend our borrowed money on.

Screw 'em, we have to live on a budget and so should they.

Let 'em start now.

Just do it.
CashWinner$

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:12 pm

The newsmen say Yes.

They wouldn't lie, right..
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Jul 30, 2011, 10:15 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 30, 2011
I hope not.

I'd rather see the country go down fighting than surrendering with a whimper to the likes of weasels like obama and harry reid and then see it go down anyway.

They just want to kick the can down the road some more and keep spending like there's no tomorrow. Like they've been doing for decades.

I say it's time to draw the line - right here and right now.

If they won't stop the reckless spending then we have to force them to.

They should all go to prison for what they've done to this country.

And the fact of the matter is that they'll still have plenty of income to pay all our major obligations anyway. They would just have to cut out all their pet projects and the looniest of all the loony things they spend our borrowed money on.

Screw 'em, we have to live on a budget and so should they.

Let 'em start now.

Just do it.

well said,

We will never forget!
grwurston

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:16 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 30, 2011
I hope not.

I'd rather see the country go down fighting than surrendering with a whimper to the likes of weasels like obama and harry reid and then see it go down anyway.

They just want to kick the can down the road some more and keep spending like there's no tomorrow. Like they've been doing for decades.

I say it's time to draw the line - right here and right now.

If they won't stop the reckless spending then we have to force them to.

They should all go to prison for what they've done to this country.

And the fact of the matter is that they'll still have plenty of income to pay all our major obligations anyway. They would just have to cut out all their pet projects and the looniest of all the loony things they spend our borrowed money on.

Screw 'em, we have to live on a budget and so should they.

Let 'em start now.

Just do it.

If they started living on the budget $13 trillion ago we wouldn't be in this mess.

Now if they all go to prison, OUR tax $$$ will be paying for their 3 hots and a cot. Do we really want to pay for their room and board after the mess they put the country in? The best thing to do would be to vote them all out in the next election. Lets start over with some new blood, people who don't owe every one and their uncle for favors, and votes for pork barrel projects. And if the new ones can't do the job vote them out too.

And for Gods sake enough of all the partisanship, every time someone has a good idea to improve things, the other guys vote it down because they didn't think of it first. Lets put the U.S.A. and ITS people first for a change. Lets take care of US for once, no one else is going to.

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Littleoldlady

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:24 pm

If the folks making all of the money would agree to a tax increase (small one)and then they do the cuts, I don't see the problem. The main problem I see is that they only want to CUT programs that affect the middle and lower classes of people and the rich people and corporations just keep getting richer. 70% of Americans believe that the rich should have a tax increase but who are they? They are the ones who will suffer from the tax cuts.

If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

You never know when you will get another hit.
Jordans121

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:28 pm

Those TeaBaggers want to take this country down! I hope they loose their seats in the next election!!

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grwurston

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:35 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jordans121 on Jul 30, 2011
Those TeaBaggers want to take this country down! I hope they loose their seats in the next election!!

That is totally up to YOU and ME. If WE vote against them, out they go!!

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Jordans121

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Jul 30, 2011
That is totally up to YOU and ME. If WE vote against them, out they go!!

Right now they are signing their death certificates. People are now realizing how irresponsible and ideology driven they are.

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rdgrnr

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jordans121 on Jul 30, 2011
Those TeaBaggers want to take this country down! I hope they loose their seats in the next election!!

You're apparently no better at politics than you are at your goofy number systems, jordan.

And what do you mean you hope they "loose" their seats? Take some screws out of them?

You really need a new hobby more suited to your intellect, jor-jor.

How about digging ditches?

How about digging a nice big ditch and having someone take your picture down there when you finish, ok? With a nice big smile!

Let us know when you're done, ok?

We wanna see the picture.

See ya in a couple weeks!
Jordans121

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:53 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 30, 2011
You're apparently no better at politics than you are at your goofy number systems, jordan.

And what do you mean you hope they "loose" their seats? Take some screws out of them?

You really need a new hobby more suited to your intellect, jor-jor.

How about digging ditches?

How about digging a nice big ditch and having someone take your picture down there when you finish, ok? With a nice big smile!

Let us know when you're done, ok?

We wanna see the picture.

See ya in a couple weeks!

Stay classy rdgrnr!! Dont get so mad and say such terrible things, Karma is a....

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grwurston

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:53 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Littleoldlady on Jul 30, 2011
If the folks making all of the money would agree to a tax increase (small one)and then they do the cuts, I don't see the problem. The main problem I see is that they only want to CUT programs that affect the middle and lower classes of people and the rich people and corporations just keep getting richer. 70% of Americans believe that the rich should have a tax increase but who are they? They are the ones who will suffer from the tax cuts.

The rich people and corps. contribute the most $$$ to the politicians, so they get taken care of first. If I had $500 million, you would say I could afford a tax increase, but that wouldn't mean I would want to pay more. And they don't. But you and I will pay 40% in taxes if we work time and a half at our job.

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rdgrnr

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Jul 30, 2011, 10:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Littleoldlady on Jul 30, 2011
If the folks making all of the money would agree to a tax increase (small one)and then they do the cuts, I don't see the problem. The main problem I see is that they only want to CUT programs that affect the middle and lower classes of people and the rich people and corporations just keep getting richer. 70% of Americans believe that the rich should have a tax increase but who are they? They are the ones who will suffer from the tax cuts.

"They are the ones who will suffer from the tax cuts."

I think you're getting confused again Little, like you were with the governors.

People don't "suffer" from tax cuts.

People "benefit" from tax cuts.
grwurston

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Jul 30, 2011, 11:04 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 30, 2011
"They are the ones who will suffer from the tax cuts."

I think you're getting confused again Little, like you were with the governors.

People don't "suffer" from tax cuts.

People "benefit" from tax cuts.

Depends on the size of the cut. If you save... oh say 40%, you would benefit big time. If you save .04%, well whooptie doo.

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rdgrnr

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Jul 30, 2011, 11:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by grwurston on Jul 30, 2011
The rich people and corps. contribute the most $$$ to the politicians, so they get taken care of first. If I had $500 million, you would say I could afford a tax increase, but that wouldn't mean I would want to pay more. And they don't. But you and I will pay 40% in taxes if we work time and a half at our job.

That's right gr, GE contributes big bucks to obama and the CEO, Immelt, is obama's golfing buddy and close friend and confidante.

GE pays nothing in taxes. NOTHING. Why? Because they give HUGE contributions to obama's campaign fund.

You're right, we gotta vote him out of there.