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Second chance winners have been posted for the 2nd Monopoly drawing.
2k+ entries here, and nada. In past drawings, I've seen upwards to 200k+ entries, and it wouldn't surprise me if this number has doubled or tripled with how well scratchoff sales are doing.
At any rate, I'm still resolved to refrain from playing to keep the money in my bank account. Might buy a $20 Flamingo here or there when I travel to South FL in the middle of September, to see if my luck is different down there.
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Quote: Originally posted by MrGray on Aug 16, 2016
The percentage of prizes claimed at the lowest level (ticket value) on the Instant Liability Reports is a good indicator of ticket % sold. The lowest-dollar-amount claimed percentage will be slightly lower (accounting for destroyed tickets or missed wins), but only very slightly (because of the volume).
I know all of this, but requesting the percent sold from them at the same time is an exact figure without assumptions made.
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Quote: Originally posted by mike cos on Aug 18, 2016
i just did a book of monoply 5 buck tickets --won 120bucks---but it cost 300 loser right here and i wont play that <snip> ticket again
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Unfortunately, that is the average return for a $5 roll. Unless you hit a $200 winner or multiple $100 winners (which are both hard to do), it is very hard to come out ahead on a $5 roll.
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Quote: Originally posted by oldghost on Aug 14, 2016
Someone fix my math or confirm it for me:
FL website shows $5 Monopoly as having 12 grand prizes. Odds of hitting it are 1 in 2,000,000
That comes to 24,000,000 tickets.
Now.
The FLRules filing for the $5 Monopoly shows:
200 pools of 180,000 tickets per pool. That comes to 36,000,000 tickets.
I checked the FLRules filing for $5 Flamingo and the numbers match, so I'm not crazy - they should match.
Gatorsrok? Thoughts?
They eventually responded and thanked me for pointing out the flaw in the website and told me their web people would fix the issue and I should see it updated that day. I responded and told them they were wrong and it was an issue with the rules filing. They then got back to me a couple of days ago and said a new filing was put in and it would be visible this week (it now is). So.. yah.. they screwed up the FLRules filing and can't do simple math. My faith in their ability to handle the more important aspects of everything is gone.
As you can see above, there is a grand prize missing between 428844 and 469799 (somewhere in 450xxx range)....
I did a mistake of asking only last 9 winning numbers(from March 2015) as someone in this forum said FL Lotto reordered at that point..Someone else in this forum can request for the first 12 winning numbers if that gives us more clues on missing numbers...
Any help from experts can help us out in finding out what could be the remaining 3 grand prizes....
For anyone still chasing 50x:
I went back and looked at some things with this and here is my conclusion:
On an archived view of FL lotto's remaining prizes page, there were 4 of 18 prizes left on March 17th 2015 (before the reorder). The next snapshot is from March 24th and shows 12 of 24 (reorder had 8 new grand prizes). On March 25th it drops down to 11 of 24 (this was prize #13 on the PDF).
Krissam got the list of the previous 9 winners. The first run had 368k books and the second had 184k. Books go at least as high as 622k. Even if they used every book # from 622k, 184k books would put the first run going as high as 438,000. This is unlikely as someone has stated before they don't use every book number.
Krissam got 9 numbers from lotto, which accounts for wins 13-21. #13 being the 0051812 above, the first run. So the first run had 3 prizes remaining for sure and the other 8 were from the second run.
Based on the book #s, at least 7 of the 9 winners were from the new order and likely, in my opinion, 8 of the 9 though this last part is an assumption that it's off the new set.
So my belief is that if there are any winners out there still, they're on the first run of the game which at the very least goes to book #368,000 though likely up into the lower 400s.
By all means, if I messed up math anywhere please let me know. Only one assumption is used above I believe, which is the 428844 (win #14) being from the second run.
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Quote: Originally posted by oldghost on Aug 18, 2016
For anyone still chasing 50x:
I went back and looked at some things with this and here is my conclusion:
On an archived view of FL lotto's remaining prizes page, there were 4 of 18 prizes left on March 17th 2015 (before the reorder). The next snapshot is from March 24th and shows 12 of 24 (reorder had 8 new grand prizes). On March 25th it drops down to 11 of 24 (this was prize #13 on the PDF).
Krissam got the list of the previous 9 winners. The first run had 368k books and the second had 184k. Books go at least as high as 622k. Even if they used every book # from 622k, 184k books would put the first run going as high as 438,000. This is unlikely as someone has stated before they don't use every book number.
Krissam got 9 numbers from lotto, which accounts for wins 13-21. #13 being the 0051812 above, the first run. So the first run had 3 prizes remaining for sure and the other 8 were from the second run.
Based on the book #s, at least 7 of the 9 winners were from the new order and likely, in my opinion, 8 of the 9 though this last part is an assumption that it's off the new set.
So my belief is that if there are any winners out there still, they're on the first run of the game which at the very least goes to book #368,000 though likely up into the lower 400s.
By all means, if I messed up math anywhere please let me know. Only one assumption is used above I believe, which is the 428844 (win #14) being from the second run.
Eh,
If we expect 2 of the remaining prizes to be in the first print, then I'd be more doubtful about them still existing with books being returned/destroyed, "lost", damaged, etc.
Surprised we haven't seen a jackpot hit on the $5 Winning Streak in quite a while, and on the $20 Flamingo. Does no one play Winning Streak anymore because it is perceived as garbage? The new $5 Maximum Debt ticket had two prizes hit already.
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Quote: Originally posted by Dracos on Aug 18, 2016
Eh,
If we expect 2 of the remaining prizes to be in the first print, then I'd be more doubtful about them still existing with books being returned/destroyed, "lost", damaged, etc.
Surprised we haven't seen a jackpot hit on the $5 Winning Streak in quite a while, and on the $20 Flamingo. Does no one play Winning Streak anymore because it is perceived as garbage? The new $5 Maximum Debt ticket had two prizes hit already.
Depends on your view, but I think all three of them are in the first print. I'm near certain 2 of them are unless the first print went over book #492,000, which would mean the books go at least as high as 676,000 - which is doubtful considering all we've seen up to is 622 I believe.
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Quote: Originally posted by oldghost on Aug 18, 2016
Depends on your view, but I think all three of them are in the first print. I'm near certain 2 of them are unless the first print went over book #492,000, which would mean the books go at least as high as 676,000 - which is doubtful considering all we've seen up to is 622 I believe.
I believe you are correct and I made the same note about the earlier print run having a few unclaimed top prizes before the reprint. I bought a decent number of them at the lotto district office this week in the 462k range (when I went to claim my $1k prize) and got murdered. I think the remaining 50X prizes are in the lower serial numbers and were probably thrown away or deactivated. I'm never buying another one of those tickets again.
The $20 Flamingo game has been dry for a while. It may end up being like the $20 Monopoly and all of a sudden have 1 or 2 $1M wins and a $5M win. Given the drought in the $1M wins in the $20 Monopoly, I think the prize distribution ended up heavy on the top end early at the cost of the $1M prizes. It wouldn't be totally surprising to see a string of $1M prizes in the monopoly game and a long drought in the $5M prizes.
In either event, I am staying focused on my few games with an occasional dabble into the $20 Flamingo and the $5k a week for life (when the serial numbers get closer to 380k).
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Quote: Originally posted by gatorsrok on Aug 18, 2016
I believe you are correct and I made the same note about the earlier print run having a few unclaimed top prizes before the reprint. I bought a decent number of them at the lotto district office this week in the 462k range (when I went to claim my $1k prize) and got murdered. I think the remaining 50X prizes are in the lower serial numbers and were probably thrown away or deactivated. I'm never buying another one of those tickets again.
The $20 Flamingo game has been dry for a while. It may end up being like the $20 Monopoly and all of a sudden have 1 or 2 $1M wins and a $5M win. Given the drought in the $1M wins in the $20 Monopoly, I think the prize distribution ended up heavy on the top end early at the cost of the $1M prizes. It wouldn't be totally surprising to see a string of $1M prizes in the monopoly game and a long drought in the $5M prizes.
In either event, I am staying focused on my few games with an occasional dabble into the $20 Flamingo and the $5k a week for life (when the serial numbers get closer to 380k).
Good luck everyone.
Coming to the complexity about following 50x game, I don't understand why long time followers of 50x in this forum can't request for first 12 grand prizes? Even though it takes a month or so to get the response back, FL Lotto still respond back. I remember someone posted in this forum that FL Lotto would charge $100 or so if we ask for all the grand prize winning book numbers and that's the reason I didn't ask for all the winning book numbers for 50x game. Also, I assumed that we will be able to find out the missing 3 book numbers if we ask for only the last 9 winning book numbers..... Can someone in this forum request FL Lotto and share with us??
This game is not expiring atleast by this year like other ending games (200 MS, etc.)and so we can still try to find out whether the 3 missing grand prize book numbers are from 1st print or 2nd reprint... It's going to be matter of sending an email and just asking for first 9 winning book numbers....Is it going to be such a time consuming/difficult/complicated task?????!!! Guys, please share your genuine thoughts on this request????
When we are ready to spend time in taking a photo of our winning ($50 or sometimes even $10 prize) tickets and upload it into image website and then add it to this forum post that takes much more time than just sending an email to FL Lotto for requesting an information, I assume it should not be a big deal????
Oldghost, logically what you said seems to be correct. The 3 missing 50x game numbers can be from first lot/lower serial numbers. But, until we get the full list of winning book numbers, it will not be confirmed 100%..This is my opinion..
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Quote: Originally posted by krissam on Aug 18, 2016
Coming to the complexity about following 50x game, I don't understand why long time followers of 50x in this forum can't request for first 12 grand prizes? Even though it takes a month or so to get the response back, FL Lotto still respond back. I remember someone posted in this forum that FL Lotto would charge $100 or so if we ask for all the grand prize winning book numbers and that's the reason I didn't ask for all the winning book numbers for 50x game. Also, I assumed that we will be able to find out the missing 3 book numbers if we ask for only the last 9 winning book numbers..... Can someone in this forum request FL Lotto and share with us??
This game is not expiring atleast by this year like other ending games (200 MS, etc.)and so we can still try to find out whether the 3 missing grand prize book numbers are from 1st print or 2nd reprint... It's going to be matter of sending an email and just asking for first 9 winning book numbers....Is it going to be such a time consuming/difficult/complicated task?????!!! Guys, please share your genuine thoughts on this request????
When we are ready to spend time in taking a photo of our winning ($50 or sometimes even $10 prize) tickets and upload it into image website and then add it to this forum post that takes much more time than just sending an email to FL Lotto for requesting an information, I assume it should not be a big deal????
Oldghost, logically what you said seems to be correct. The 3 missing 50x game numbers can be from first lot/lower serial numbers. But, until we get the full list of winning book numbers, it will not be confirmed 100%..This is my opinion..
@gatorsrok:
I mostly agree. I won't bother buying any unless I find a book under 400k (or at most up to like 403k). I think the only way it's in a later book is if the book numbers go noticeably higher than the 622k we've seen OR (and I'm pretty sure this doesn't happen) if FL Lotto reprints grand prize winners when was is destroyed and puts it out in circulation - which would stick it in the end of the run. But that last thing I think is insanely unlikely.
@krissam:
Actually I think it's confirmed that 2 of them are for sure in the first print with the third only "likely" to also be in the first printing.