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Should a winning system be posted on the LP?

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Should a winning system be posted on the LP?

Don't post a winning system? [ 41 ]  [34.75%]
Post your winning system? [ 77 ]  [65.25%]
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Posted: May 15, 2013, 10:16 pm - IP Logged

I have a friend who bought several of his so called systems not just the cheap low end systems but  6 of the high end systems $150 plus range . All have failed at producing any Wins even minimum return on investment .

Just 1 of many bad reviews :

In the fall of 1999 S.Player mailed out a new system for Play 3. It was illustrated with a graph based on a simple formula. But in his new catalogue he usd a different graph for identically same draw data.
When asked by letter for an explanation he did not respond and when trying to contact him by e-mail on his site he asks for your "password".
It is a basic rule of computer security not ever to disclose your password to any third party, because it is often used by scam artists for identity theft. He refuses to refund your purchase money when you can prove his method or graph to be in error or the system not yielding a profit on backtesting.

What is Steve Player up to? Is he a purveyor of crap? Lots of members a LP seem to think so in Nov. 2003

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    I have a friend who bought several of his so called systems not just the cheap low end systems but  6 of the high end systems $150 plus range . All have failed at producing any Wins even minimum return on investment .

    Just 1 of many bad reviews :

    In the fall of 1999 S.Player mailed out a new system for Play 3. It was illustrated with a graph based on a simple formula. But in his new catalogue he usd a different graph for identically same draw data.
    When asked by letter for an explanation he did not respond and when trying to contact him by e-mail on his site he asks for your "password".
    It is a basic rule of computer security not ever to disclose your password to any third party, because it is often used by scam artists for identity theft. He refuses to refund your purchase money when you can prove his method or graph to be in error or the system not yielding a profit on backtesting.

    What is Steve Player up to? Is he a purveyor of crap? Lots of members a LP seem to think so in Nov. 2003

    I bought a few of his systems, maybe 3 or 4 in the 40 dollars average purchase price many years ago.And like I've said before recently here on LP was that most of it was garbage. But there was one which like a graph you mentioned earlier, that produced a 6 thousand dollar win for me. I couldn't believe my eyes the next day. This was when Florida only had one evening draw a day.

    It's been a while to remember the system name, but it looked like a graph which charted each positional number in the P-3 for exact bettting only. There were tips on how to read the chart which were exceptionally well explained. And I think that was one major factor to my winning.

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      Posted: May 15, 2013, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

      Thinking of...

       

      Let's shoot ourselves in the foot. Yeah, that's the ticket !

      Crazy

      LOL

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        Posted: May 15, 2013, 11:44 pm - IP Logged

        Ok, so let me get this straight. You know what Peter St. Pierre's real intentions are, what my friend was PROBABLY thinking, and I guess you also know what the secrets of the universe are.

        If you must know, he was only referring to death tolls, not miles traveled. I was there, not you.

        BTW, he was also the landlord of the house who lived at the house. Let's see what kind of convoluted logic you come up with to defend this guy. I caught him upstairs one day with a toilet brush sitting in the sink half filled with some primortial concoction created by the brush. After confronting him about this, and telling him that I use that sink to brush my teeth, his response was.."I don't use this sink". Meanwhile, two other tenants do.

        He also doesn't use toothpaste cause he doesn't like the taste, so what he does is clip his fingernails and rolls them around his teeth for about 15 mintues so, and by doing so, the clippings will scrub the dirt off.

         

        I know you have another wise answer for this one too. Please enlighten me. Perhaps you have another cut and paste excerpt showing how used toliet brushes are cleaner than sinks, or perhaps a scientific journal on how nail clippings work better than toothpaste. Crazy

        It figures that you and he agree. It makes all the sense in the world now.

        OnlyMoney,

        You said, "Ok, so let me get this straight. You know what Peter St. Pierre's real intentions are, what my friend was PROBABLY thinking, and I guess you also know what the secrets of the universe are.  If you must know, he was only referring to death tolls, not miles traveled. I was there, not you."

        OK, so let me get this straight.

        First of all, I have no way of knowing what Peter St. Pierre's intentions are, nor do you.  Do you?  We can both only speculate on the possibilities, which is what I've done.

        If your friend did, in fact, insist that flying is safer because fewer people die in airplanes than in cars, of course, he was wrong.  Your first mention of him didn't specify what kind of "death toll statistics" he was referring to.  Since his conclusion was correct, I mistakenly assumed he used a valid measure.

        How do you feel about the fact that it IS safer to fly than drive?

        By the way, how in the world did you end up sharing a bathroom with a guy who brushes his teeth with nail clippings?  I trust you've since found more acceptable accommodations.

        --Jimmy4164

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          Posted: May 16, 2013, 12:16 pm - IP Logged

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            Posted: May 16, 2013, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

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            I Agree! 

            While the majority of talk on LP is about the $550 million PB jackpot, he's talking about trains, planes, and automobiles.


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              OnlyMoney,

              You said, "Ok, so let me get this straight. You know what Peter St. Pierre's real intentions are, what my friend was PROBABLY thinking, and I guess you also know what the secrets of the universe are.  If you must know, he was only referring to death tolls, not miles traveled. I was there, not you."

              OK, so let me get this straight.

              First of all, I have no way of knowing what Peter St. Pierre's intentions are, nor do you.  Do you?  We can both only speculate on the possibilities, which is what I've done.

              If your friend did, in fact, insist that flying is safer because fewer people die in airplanes than in cars, of course, he was wrong.  Your first mention of him didn't specify what kind of "death toll statistics" he was referring to.  Since his conclusion was correct, I mistakenly assumed he used a valid measure.

              How do you feel about the fact that it IS safer to fly than drive?

              By the way, how in the world did you end up sharing a bathroom with a guy who brushes his teeth with nail clippings?  I trust you've since found more acceptable accommodations.

              --Jimmy4164

              You were the one who speculated that Peter was selling systems, which was a rediculous thought. I know what is intentions are, he wants to make about 70 grand a year, and he's been doing it for the past 5 years.

              No, I don't live in that guy's house anymore. That was many many years ago. He wasn't supposed to use that bathroom, he had his own downstairs. I'm not a psychic, so I didn't know until a friend told me about the nail clippings, and that was the first time I saw him put a dirty toilet brush in the sink, well, at least the first time I caught him. He may have done this many times before with my knowledge.

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                Posted: May 16, 2013, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

                If this weekend PB winner used a system posted at LP to win then he had better keep quite about it since many may try to claim he did it with a hacked version of their system and be hoping for some royalties.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: May 17, 2013, 9:46 am - IP Logged

                  If this weekend PB winner used a system posted at LP to win then he had better keep quite about it since many may try to claim he did it with a hacked version of their system and be hoping for some royalties.

                  If systems could be copyright and royalties collected, my system would be buying a ticket on any day ending in "day". We have threads called "MY jackpot numbers" and some include 100% of the numbers; can you image the chaos if THEY  had a legitimate claim of ownership on all the numbers?

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                    If systems could be copyright and royalties collected, my system would be buying a ticket on any day ending in "day". We have threads called "MY jackpot numbers" and some include 100% of the numbers; can you image the chaos if THEY  had a legitimate claim of ownership on all the numbers?

                    Stack

                    I laughed when I read the post above.  If that were the case everytime someone won with a SP there would

                    be hundreds of people tring to get a share.   The big jackpots seem to bring out the nut's so I guess it might

                    happen but I doubt they would have much of a case.   Hey, he played two odd and three even numbers.  He 

                    used my system.

                    Party

                     

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                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                      I laughed when I read the post above.  If that were the case everytime someone won with a SP there would

                      be hundreds of people tring to get a share.   The big jackpots seem to bring out the nut's so I guess it might

                      happen but I doubt they would have much of a case.   Hey, he played two odd and three even numbers.  He 

                      used my system.

                      Party

                       

                      RL

                      Most of those law suits against big lottery winners don't have a chance but I think the ones suing hope the winners would rather settle out of court for a few millions than wait until after a trial to collect their money. Banana

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Most of those law suits against big lottery winners don't have a chance but I think the ones suing hope the winners would rather settle out of court for a few millions than wait until after a trial to collect their money. Banana

                        Anyone can sue anybody for anything so I'm wondering if one of our systems players "saw the light" after reading posts by our resident "math wizard", didn't play their system, but found if they did, they would have won the jackpot. It really doesn't matter if a systems player convinces somebody it's better to use a system because a QP player would never know they "would have won".

                        I hope I'm not giving anybody any ideas.

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                          Posted: May 19, 2013, 12:49 am - IP Logged

                          Anyone can sue anybody for anything so I'm wondering if one of our systems players "saw the light" after reading posts by our resident "math wizard", didn't play their system, but found if they did, they would have won the jackpot. It really doesn't matter if a systems player convinces somebody it's better to use a system because a QP player would never know they "would have won".

                          I hope I'm not giving anybody any ideas.

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                            If someone tried that with me I would slap a counter-suit on them faster than the speed of light. 

                            Attorney fees alone would could run in the millions so they would wind up working two jobs for the

                            rest of their natural life paying me for the trouble.    Anytime someone hit's a JP it should be a happy

                            occasian without any worries.

                            RL

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                            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                              Posted: May 19, 2013, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

                              Earlier today I took a look at the Tx lottery site and one of the jackpot games is being won lately with non quickpicks, so people might not be posting their systems or they might be, but quick picks are no longer winning all of the jackpots on all of the games.

                                 
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