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Posted: March 10, 2014, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

Because someone doesn't agree with you chastising the L.P. community you resort to playing childish games? You must be awfully proud of yourself having finally reached puberty, now run back to your room before your mother catches you visiting illicit sites on her computer.

He spends most of his time on this forum trolling, flaming and harrassing other members. Not very productive.

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    Hi all, new here.

    I've thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread.

    Whether it's true or not there are certain things to take into consideration and several have been mentioned time and time again, how much did he spend and how often.

    It's like a coworker of mine i've known over 20 years, about 3 years ago she comes in on a Monday glowing and ask what's up? "I won 27k playing the slots on the weekend" my first impulse was to race straight out to the casino, lol. Then later that day i said to her, you know i've know you around 20 years and i didn't even know you go to the casino? Apparently she keeps it quite as she has a real gambling problem, sometimes you think you know people, and i'm not going to go into detail but she's been on the line of living out of a cardboard box due to gambling, all of a sudden that 27k doesn't sound so sweet anymore.

    If a system like this worked it would be on the news, basically common knowledge, then there would be no more huge jackpots as too many people would be winning all over the place, so when this guy mentions thousands of people and friends using the system i gotta call BS, that means there should have been far more winners on that combo, unless he's the only one using the system which apparently he's not he and thousands of other are using it too. When you read between the lines, it's a fake or he's dumped and enormous amount of money to buy that win.

    "Whether it's true or not there are certain things to take into consideration and several have been mentioned time and time again, how much did he spend and how often."

    On page 6 Maringoman showed Player's winnings from the NH Lottery website so we know for a fact Player had winnings of $67,000. Because of the winnings it's obvious they played the numbers 2-3-13-14-26 on 35 lines with each line using a different bonus number. Doing the math, the cost of play was $105 for that wager, but it doesn't say how many times they made the same wager or how many other $105 wagers they made. The only thing I can say for a fact it they could make around 638 of those wagers and still show a profit.

    "If a system like this worked it would be on the news, basically common knowledge, then there would be no more huge jackpots as too many people would be winning all over the place, so when this guy mentions thousands of people and friends using the system i gotta call BS, that means there should have been far more winners on that combo,"

    The odds against Player's five numbers matching the jackpot numbers is exactly the same as any player purchasing one $2 lines, 5,006,386  to 1. The odds of matching four of the numbers is exactly the same too. The only difference is Player wagered $105 on their combination and not much different than the two WVA winners two years ago. http://www.lotterypost.com/news/243363

    "unless he's the only one using the system which apparently he's not he and thousands of other are using it too."

    The system" appears to be betting $105 on each line they play out of a possible 5,006,386 lines.

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      Is it just me but why is the other guy who won at least 7 times more famous than Player ? Player seems to have more skills !!! or is it just an Organization not a real person !!!

      It's just you.  Both guys seem to have similar skills when it comes to buying tickets, they both buy a lot of them and as a result get lucky more often than the average player.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Someone mentioned that Player bets 200 different five number lines all with every bonus number and with Powerplay so if that's true, it's a $21,000 bet each drawing. We can only guess at what type a system it is, but it sure looks like it's based on winning the jackpot and matching 4 + 1 was a bonus. Had they hit the fifth number, they would collect the jackpot plus 34 second prize winners. The $2 million second prize probably has a cap, but they can make lots of $21,000 bets and still make a nice profit.

        "People who have found a few loop holes in the system, yet some of those same people will jump to another thread a few hours later and declare they KNOW FOR A FACT that they will eventually win a JP one day, despite the astronomical odds against them ever winning."

        It looks like Player bet on 7000 of the 175 million plus possible combinations or maybe they bet on 200 of the 5 million plus possible five number matches. Either way Player has at the least 34 more chances to win the jackpot than a player with one line. Logically if a one or two line player "knows for a a fact" they will someday win a jackpot, they must also "know for a fact" Player will win one too.

        Logically if a one or two line player "knows for a a fact" they will someday win a jackpot, they must also "know for a fact" Player will win one too.

         

        You're one of the few here who gets it. Most people are so lost, it takes them a few seconds to find their elbow.


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          If the Player organization is playing as many lines per drawing as you suspect, I'm surprised it hasn't won a major jackpot already if the system is as good as it claims.  If Player wasn't in the business of selling lottery systems, he would be seen as a lottery player with a gambling problem.

          Steve has won at least one JP, but I believe he won a major JP when he first started out, but I'm not sure. One that I know for sure wasn't much, but it was the Florida Fantasy Five when the matrix was only 26 as opposed to 36 now. He showed the check in his promo catalogue to me.


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            Because someone doesn't agree with you chastising the L.P. community you resort to playing childish games? You must be awfully proud of yourself having finally reached puberty, now run back to your room before your mother catches you visiting illicit sites on her computer.

            chastising? I have no control over the dumb things some of you people write, but I wish I did.

            I'll make a deal. The day someone responds on how it's possible for EVERYONE who believes they will win the JP in their lifetime and actually win, is when I'll admit I was an idiot. But it's  highly improbable because the thought is so rediculous, it deserves a better response than something like " Because I know it, I just know". Some of you do a disservice to the intelligence and problem solving reputation of the Human race.

            I just can't believe there are that many delusions by Humans existing on this planet.

            In no way am I am claiming to be the know-it-all, but there are some things that raise my eyebrow and shake my head. (Not at the same time).


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              Posted: March 10, 2014, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

              I Agree!  It wouldn't be the prudent thing to rush to buy this system just because it worked once or even twice. Even if only 0.0000001% of the people will ever win.

              I don't blame you for not knowing what I wrote when I decided to create my signature. it was a while ago and i don't expect everyone to read everything I write, but I clearly wrote early on that the only possible way to increase the odds in one's favor is to maybe use a system that is somewhat proven to work, and for the obvious reason that most JP systems play more than just one or two lines. They require a dozen or so lines, more in some cases.


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                He spends most of his time on this forum trolling, flaming and harrassing other members. Not very productive.

                If I was trolling, Todd would've sent me to the land of no avatar a long time ago.

                So let me get this straight, If I disagree with something in a thread, it's trolling? I can't help the fact that there are so many threads to tend to. It's a volunteer part time job for me to insert some common sense into people who may be lacking. If I can just save one person, it's worth the effort to do this on my personal time. Green laugh

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                  If the Player organization is playing as many lines per drawing as you suspect, I'm surprised it hasn't won a major jackpot already if the system is as good as it claims.  If Player wasn't in the business of selling lottery systems, he would be seen as a lottery player with a gambling problem.

                  If it is 200 lines like someone suggested, it's still only 200 out of 5,006,386 with a 0.004% chance of winning the jackpot.

                  "It just goes to show you that my winning Lottery systems and wheels really do work; for me and for thousands of my friends and customers around the country."

                  That's all hype and like saying a broken clock gives the correct time twice a day too. Player almost sounds surprised that his mathematically designed wheels "really do work". It doesn't really say if a system was used to choose the five numbers and the system might be as simple as using all 35 bonus numbers with one line using PowerPlay.

                  "If Player wasn't in the business of selling lottery systems, he would be seen as a lottery player with a gambling problem."

                  Not too many people are willing to admit they bought a Player system and discuss it. If someone needs to buy the explanation on how to play one pick-4 pair with 36 other pairs, they shouldn't be playing.


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                    Posted: March 10, 2014, 11:27 pm - IP Logged

                    I agree 100%

                    Thanks, finally. All hope is not lost. lol

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                      Here's my winning check for the 03/23/2013 Powerball drawing. It seems that one of the cards I played did not scan the Power Play option correctly, so instead of winning $3,020.00, I only won $2,980.00. I guess I can live with that.

                      Many people have asked how I arranged my numbers for this drawing. In this case I used a hybrid wheeling system based on my PAYDAY-5 Lottery system. What I did was to choose between one and five numbers for each position (there are 5 positions in this game plus the Powerball number). In the first position (P1) I chose the numbers 08-14-16-17-18. In the second position (P2) I chose the numbers 25-28-29-33-38. In the third position (P3) I chose the numbers 43-44-46-48-49. In the fourth position (P4) I chose only the number 57 and in the fifth position (P5) I chose the numbers 58 and 59. I then wheeled these selections into every possible positionally constrained combination which gave me my 250 games to play.
                      You can figure out how many combinations you will have by simply multiplying how many numbers you are playing in each position. In this case I played 5 X 5 X 5 X 1 X 2 = 250. I then played the Powerball number 31 with each of my 250 combinations. I then Power Played them all for a higher return. Therefore, my total investment was $3.00 per combination times 250 combinations for$750.00. (Since one card did not Power Play properly, my actual investment was only $745.00) My return on this investment was $2980.00, which means I walked away with a profit of $2,235.00. Not bad for a days work. 

                      What I was trying to show all of my Facebook friends during last Saturdays Powerball drawing was that if you learn how to study and analyze the games and you play your numbers using a mathematically sound playing method (wheeling system), you too can maximize your chances of walking away as a winner. It's not rocket science and it's not magic...just good old fashioned hard work (and a lot of fun too!!!).
                      GOOD LUCK................Steve Player
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                        Here's my winning check for the 03/23/2013 Powerball drawing. It seems that one of the cards I played did not scan the Power Play option correctly, so instead of winning $3,020.00, I only won $2,980.00. I guess I can live with that.

                        Many people have asked how I arranged my numbers for this drawing. In this case I used a hybrid wheeling system based on my PAYDAY-5 Lottery system. What I did was to choose between one and five numbers for each position (there are 5 positions in this game plus the Powerball number). In the first position (P1) I chose the numbers 08-14-16-17-18. In the second position (P2) I chose the numbers 25-28-29-33-38. In the third position (P3) I chose the numbers 43-44-46-48-49. In the fourth position (P4) I chose only the number 57 and in the fifth position (P5) I chose the numbers 58 and 59. I then wheeled these selections into every possible positionally constrained combination which gave me my 250 games to play.
                        You can figure out how many combinations you will have by simply multiplying how many numbers you are playing in each position. In this case I played 5 X 5 X 5 X 1 X 2 = 250. I then played the Powerball number 31 with each of my 250 combinations. I then Power Played them all for a higher return. Therefore, my total investment was $3.00 per combination times 250 combinations for$750.00. (Since one card did not Power Play properly, my actual investment was only $745.00) My return on this investment was $2980.00, which means I walked away with a profit of $2,235.00. Not bad for a days work. 

                        What I was trying to show all of my Facebook friends during last Saturdays Powerball drawing was that if you learn how to study and analyze the games and you play your numbers using a mathematically sound playing method (wheeling system), you too can maximize your chances of walking away as a winner. It's not rocket science and it's not magic...just good old fashioned hard work (and a lot of fun too!!!).
                        GOOD LUCK................Steve Player

                        What is interesting about this win is that getting Powerball 31 with PowerPlay pays out $12.  So 250 lines x $12 is $3000.00.  So even though they had some 2+1 wins those wins really didn't contribute much to their overall win.  All the babble talk about the wheeling of the numbers by position was really insignificant in this case but they were able to successfully deflect that in their writings which makes Steve Player the company a very good marketer.

                        I don't care for their systems, but I think they do a good sales job in how they market the systems which is what it is all about if your selling a product or service.  If you can sell enough systems so that you can play a lot of lines its kinda of like having your own lottery pool.  I just wonder why they headquartered in New Hampshire.  I would have picked a different state to live in that had better lottery games if I was going to invest company money on the lottery games.

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                          What is interesting about this win is that getting Powerball 31 with PowerPlay pays out $12.  So 250 lines x $12 is $3000.00.  So even though they had some 2+1 wins those wins really didn't contribute much to their overall win.  All the babble talk about the wheeling of the numbers by position was really insignificant in this case but they were able to successfully deflect that in their writings which makes Steve Player the company a very good marketer.

                          I don't care for their systems, but I think they do a good sales job in how they market the systems which is what it is all about if your selling a product or service.  If you can sell enough systems so that you can play a lot of lines its kinda of like having your own lottery pool.  I just wonder why they headquartered in New Hampshire.  I would have picked a different state to live in that had better lottery games if I was going to invest company money on the lottery games.

                          Jimmy

                           I just wonder why they headquartered in New Hampshire.  I would have picked a different state to live in that had better lottery games if I was going to invest company money on the lottery games.

                           

                          The lack of oversight on this so-called company, with a fundamental issue in Marketing 101, leads me to believe your theory about some corporation running a marketing scheme is not plausible. How can a successful and supposed marketing company overlook such a basic integral function?

                          Your response was interesting to read and contained some entertainment value, but I must file this under all the other failed attempts to explain by other members, on how Steve and Peter are winning so much.

                          If I had a lot of money, i'd offer a reward to the first person who could prove me wrong. lol

                          No worries though, I'd bet my money is safe so far..

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                            What is interesting about this win is that getting Powerball 31 with PowerPlay pays out $12.  So 250 lines x $12 is $3000.00.  So even though they had some 2+1 wins those wins really didn't contribute much to their overall win.  All the babble talk about the wheeling of the numbers by position was really insignificant in this case but they were able to successfully deflect that in their writings which makes Steve Player the company a very good marketer.

                            I don't care for their systems, but I think they do a good sales job in how they market the systems which is what it is all about if your selling a product or service.  If you can sell enough systems so that you can play a lot of lines its kinda of like having your own lottery pool.  I just wonder why they headquartered in New Hampshire.  I would have picked a different state to live in that had better lottery games if I was going to invest company money on the lottery games.

                            Jimmy

                            "What is interesting about this win is that getting Powerball 31 with PowerPlay pays out $12."

                            It looks like they used this win to plug their PAYDAY-5 Lottery system even though it was as you pointed out, irrelevant to the amount they won. I hope nobody paid for the Steve Player "use the same bonus number on all your lines" system or the "play all the bonus numbers with one five number line" system.

                            I suppose Player's marketing is similar to this thread, http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/273289 and hope nobody notices they bet $2 to win $160 and not the 50 cents they claimed.

                            "I just wonder why they headquartered in New Hampshire."

                            Just a guess, but it's probably because there are no state taxes on lottery winnings.

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                              Steve did it again!

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