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• Nikkicute

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Mar 4, 2014

  How do you know there aren't people winning around the country? Have you done an extensive search for months on end in every state for every type of JP drawing?

  Show me proof you have and let me see the results.

  It doesn't matter! Looking at the posts on this thread even if there were people posting winning

  checks from using his system they would question it. They're too busy looking at the persons name

  saying it sounds funny, looking for routing numbers and wondering how much they spent, which was

  not the point of this thread.

   

  Steve Player is not real, soooo neither is Betty Crocker or Aunt Jemima but do you question them?

  Nope! Your too busy eating. lol

   

  I see I'm not the only one who noticed that in the winning tickets thread.

  When members post tickets. no one ask these questions or looks at the winnings the same

  way they do Steve Players. And when they do they get shut down!

   

  There is a member here from florida (I think we all know who I'm talking about) that wins quite a bit

   playing Pick 3 and Pick 4, was asked how much they spent on tickets.

   

  Another member jumps down that persons throat for asking such a question and basically telling them it's

  none of their business how much was spent but that same member is in this thread wanting to know

  how many "stinkin' tickets" Steve bought

   

  I'm starting to think that as long as your winning small in this forum it's OK.

  But the minute you start winning BIG there is a problem. They will take your winnings

  and dissect it and break you down piece by piece to the point where you just won big and you

  can't even feel happy about it!

   

  Good players, Keith Price (pick3 king of Kentucky), Lillian Davis out of Wisconsin

  and some others who win big are not members here! And if they are they keep their

  mouth shut and I can see why!!
• LottoBoner

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  Looks like todd has his Vader Death Ray set in Gatling mode.
• LottoBoner

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  Quote: Originally posted by Nikkicute on Mar 4, 2014

  It doesn't matter! Looking at the posts on this thread even if there were people posting winning

  checks from using his system they would question it. They're too busy looking at the persons name

  saying it sounds funny, looking for routing numbers and wondering how much they spent, which was

  not the point of this thread.

   

  Steve Player is not real, soooo neither is Betty Crocker or Aunt Jemima but do you question them?

  Nope! Your too busy eating. lol

   

  I see I'm not the only one who noticed that in the winning tickets thread.

  When members post tickets. no one ask these questions or looks at the winnings the same

  way they do Steve Players. And when they do they get shut down!

   

  There is a member here from florida (I think we all know who I'm talking about) that wins quite a bit

   playing Pick 3 and Pick 4, was asked how much they spent on tickets.

   

  Another member jumps down that persons throat for asking such a question and basically telling them it's

  none of their business how much was spent but that same member is in this thread wanting to know

  how many "stinkin' tickets" Steve bought

   

  I'm starting to think that as long as your winning small in this forum it's OK.

  But the minute you start winning BIG there is a problem. They will take your winnings

  and dissect it and break you down piece by piece to the point where you just won big and you

  can't even feel happy about it!

   

  Good players, Keith Price (pick3 king of Kentucky), Lillian Davis out of Wisconsin

  and some others who win big are not members here! And if they are they keep their

  mouth shut and I can see why!!

  Steve Player is playing minimum 35 lines.  One for every bonusball.

  Its up to him or her how many separate lines there are.

  He very well likely spent over 1000 dollars that particular draw.   But he has the option of timing his bets with the Gail Howard Scientific Number Picking Strategies.

  Now nikkcute be sure and do your homework and report back to OnlyMonkey with proof and results for his expert approval, as he is the self professed guru on all lottery related matters.
• onlymoney

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• rdgrnr

  

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  In response to Nikkicute

  Quote: Originally posted by Nikkicute on Mar 4, 2014

  It doesn't matter! Looking at the posts on this thread even if there were people posting winning

  checks from using his system they would question it. They're too busy looking at the persons name

  saying it sounds funny, looking for routing numbers and wondering how much they spent, which was

  not the point of this thread.

   

  Steve Player is not real, soooo neither is Betty Crocker or Aunt Jemima but do you question them?

  Nope! Your too busy eating. lol

   

  I see I'm not the only one who noticed that in the winning tickets thread.

  When members post tickets. no one ask these questions or looks at the winnings the same

  way they do Steve Players. And when they do they get shut down!

   

  There is a member here from florida (I think we all know who I'm talking about) that wins quite a bit

   playing Pick 3 and Pick 4, was asked how much they spent on tickets.

   

  Another member jumps down that persons throat for asking such a question and basically telling them it's

  none of their business how much was spent but that same member is in this thread wanting to know

  how many "stinkin' tickets" Steve bought

   

  I'm starting to think that as long as your winning small in this forum it's OK.

  But the minute you start winning BIG there is a problem. They will take your winnings

  and dissect it and break you down piece by piece to the point where you just won big and you

  can't even feel happy about it!

   

  Good players, Keith Price (pick3 king of Kentucky), Lillian Davis out of Wisconsin

  and some others who win big are not members here! And if they are they keep their

  mouth shut and I can see why!!

  "There is a member here from florida (I think we all know who I'm talking about) that wins quite a bit

   playing Pick 3 and Pick 4, was asked how much they spent on tickets.

   Another member jumps down that persons throat for asking such a question and basically telling them it's

  none of their business how much was spent but that same member is in this thread wanting to know

  how many "stinkin' tickets" Steve bought

   

  I'm the member who asked in jest how many "stinkin' tickets" Player bought.

  I have no idea what you're talking about in the rest of your story unless I was helping someone deal with some jerk.

  Maybe you could refresh my memory.

  BTW, the Midol is in Aisle 4.
• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Mar 4, 2014

  How do you know there aren't people winning around the country? Have you done an extensive search for months on end in every state for every type of JP drawing?

  Show me proof you have and let me see the results.

  You can check USAMega for a complete list of PB and MM winners after every drawing, there aren't hundreds of 4+1, 5+0 or 5+1 winners for any drawings for either game.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• onlymoney

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  Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Mar 5, 2014

  You can check USAMega for a complete list of PB and MM winners after every drawing, there aren't hundreds of 4+1, 5+0 or 5+1 winners for any drawings for either game.

  Thanks,

  My take is that most people aren't disciplined. A lot of Steve's systems involve a bankroll, patience, and a progressive wagering method that is too hard for the average Joe to handle.
• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Mar 5, 2014

  Thanks,

  My take is that most people aren't disciplined. A lot of Steve's systems involve a bankroll, patience, and a progressive wagering method that is too hard for the average Joe to handle.

  That's probably true but there are plenty of average Joe players with bankrolls that might gamble them if they were sure they would eventually win more than they spent.  There aren't any guarantees with Steve's systems, they depend on luck like any other lottery winning systems.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• onlymoney

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  Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Mar 5, 2014

  That's probably true but there are plenty of average Joe players with bankrolls that might gamble them if they were sure they would eventually win more than they spent.  There aren't any guarantees with Steve's systems, they depend on luck like any other lottery winning systems.

  You may be right, but how will anyone find out since most people are skeptical in the first place? They'll never try it.

  Have you tried his systems?
• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Mar 5, 2014

  You may be right, but how will anyone find out since most people are skeptical in the first place? They'll never try it.

  Have you tried his systems?

  No, I haven't.  My bankroll isn't big enough to even pay for one of his systems. 

  Even if I could afford one of them I would want to follow it on paper first to see what I could reasonablely  expect before actually trying it.

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• onlymoney

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  Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Mar 5, 2014

  No, I haven't.  My bankroll isn't big enough to even pay for one of his systems. 

  Even if I could afford one of them I would want to follow it on paper first to see what I could reasonablely  expect before actually trying it.

  No, I haven't.  My bankroll isn't big enough to even pay for one of his systems. 

   

  There's your answer.
• Coin Toss

  

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  Here's the first hit on a search "Is Steve Player a real person?"

  Read it and weep.

  http://saliu.com/bbs/messages/188.html

  An editor's note - 2007
  There is no one single person named 'Steve Player'. It is a group of so-called “lottery systems developers”. They are related to a now-defunct publication: Lotto World Magazine. The magazine was primarily a vehicle for Steve Player's lotto systems. Half of the publication consisted of full-page ads for those “lottery systems”. Most likely, the publishers and Steve Player were one and the same entity. The ads also featured a fake photo of a weird-looking man who was living in the wilderness of New England, surrounded by computers and developing lottery systems! One of the weirdoes of the “Steve Player Clan” still spams me from New England. He wants my formulas and even unpublished lottery theories.

  Ion Saliu

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  I remember Ion Saliu being mentioned here on LP or perhaps he's a member or was.

  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners. 

  

  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
• Nikkicute

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Mar 5, 2014

  Here's the first hit on a search "Is Steve Player a real person?"

  Read it and weep.

  http://saliu.com/bbs/messages/188.html

  An editor's note - 2007
  There is no one single person named 'Steve Player'. It is a group of so-called “lottery systems developers”. They are related to a now-defunct publication: Lotto World Magazine. The magazine was primarily a vehicle for Steve Player's lotto systems. Half of the publication consisted of full-page ads for those “lottery systems”. Most likely, the publishers and Steve Player were one and the same entity. The ads also featured a fake photo of a weird-looking man who was living in the wilderness of New England, surrounded by computers and developing lottery systems! One of the weirdoes of the “Steve Player Clan” still spams me from New England. He wants my formulas and even unpublished lottery theories.

  Ion Saliu

  _________________________________________

  I remember Ion Saliu being mentioned here on LP or perhaps he's a member or was.

  This is old news, what does this have to do with the winning ticket
• Coin Toss

  

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  Read thre OP again and see what the text above the ticket says,

  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners. 

  

  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
• Stack47

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Mar 5, 2014

  No, I haven't.  My bankroll isn't big enough to even pay for one of his systems. 

  Even if I could afford one of them I would want to follow it on paper first to see what I could reasonablely  expect before actually trying it.

  Someone or a group spent $300,000 on Mass Cash Win Fall tickets taking advantage of the roll down. I'm pretty sure another player triggered a roll down by purchasing thousands of tickets too. I doubt the Player systems cost that much, but from what I've read, they are expensive and it looks like this system cost $105 for every five number line played.