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Why is the Ohio Classic Lotto so difficult to win?

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IPlayWeekly's avatar - avatarmoney
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Posted: May 14, 2014, 1:39 pm - IP Logged

I refuse to play OCL because the second tier amounts are a joke.  The odds are very slim that anyone will win a jackpot prize, however, I'd rather win a mm or pb second tier amount.

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    Posted: May 14, 2014, 2:34 pm - IP Logged

    I refuse to play OCL because the second tier amounts are a joke.  The odds are very slim that anyone will win a jackpot prize, however, I'd rather win a mm or pb second tier amount.

    "The odds are very slim that anyone will win a jackpot prize, however, I'd rather win a mm or pb second tier amount."

     

    The $1 million second tier in MM has worse odds than this jackpot, and dollar-for-dollar the odds for second tier in PB is only slightly better.

    Why would you rather win 35 times less cash for worse/similar odds?? What?

    If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
    If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

    2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
    P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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      Posted: May 14, 2014, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

      A year heck, RJOh!  The last Ohio Classic jackpot win was December 07, 2011!!!  That equates to 2 years, 5 months, and 7 days.  Note that I am not complaining about winning the 70+ million jackpot.  I will humbly accept it and thank everyone who has donated  for the past two and a half years just for me.  It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it.  Big Smile

      True, but its jackpot has only been in the decent money range for about a year.  It took almost a year for its cash value to equal its odds of being won.

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        Posted: May 14, 2014, 3:21 pm - IP Logged

        It's time to win!

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          Posted: May 14, 2014, 3:29 pm - IP Logged

          It's time to win!

          I Agree! and in an hour or two I'll start picking some combinations to play in tonight's drawing which takes place in about four hours.  Good luck.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: May 14, 2014, 10:52 pm - IP Logged

            "The odds are very slim that anyone will win a jackpot prize, however, I'd rather win a mm or pb second tier amount."

             

            The $1 million second tier in MM has worse odds than this jackpot, and dollar-for-dollar the odds for second tier in PB is only slightly better.

            Why would you rather win 35 times less cash for worse/similar odds?? What?

            "The odds are very slim that anyone will win a jackpot prize, however, I'd rather win a mm or pb second tier amount."

            l agree 100% with you Ol Chap..but as they say " If Wishes Were Horses-Beggars would ride"

             

             

             

             

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              Posted: May 15, 2014, 10:41 am - IP Logged

              I refuse to play OCL because the second tier amounts are a joke.  The odds are very slim that anyone will win a jackpot prize, however, I'd rather win a mm or pb second tier amount.

              The second tier prizes in state lotto games usually are small, because it's the jackpots that attract players. If they allocated more money for the second tier prizes, the jackpots would be much smaller, and take even longer to grow. I don't play for the second tier prizes, but I sure wouldn't turn them down either.

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                Posted: May 16, 2014, 11:56 pm - IP Logged

                The second tier prizes in state lotto games usually are small, because it's the jackpots that attract players. If they allocated more money for the second tier prizes, the jackpots would be much smaller, and take even longer to grow. I don't play for the second tier prizes, but I sure wouldn't turn them down either.

                At one time matching 5 out of 6 in the Ohio Lotto game was paid pari-mutual and some drawings paid $2000 and others $750 or less. I believe the secondary prizes are the probable reason for low sales volume.

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                  Posted: May 17, 2014, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

                  At one time matching 5 out of 6 in the Ohio Lotto game was paid pari-mutual and some drawings paid $2000 and others $750 or less. I believe the secondary prizes are the probable reason for low sales volume.

                  At one time matching 5 out of 6 in the Ohio Lotto game was paid pari-mutual

                  When was that?  Until Rolling Cash5 came along all Ohio games except the jackpots of their anchor game had fixed prize amounts unless all the prizes exceeded the cap and I only remember that happening once when a guy brought 20 Buckeye5 tickets matching all five numbers on each.  He expected to get the fixed amount of $100K for each winning ticket but the cap was one million dollars so the state went pari-mutual.  Although the cap was mention on the play slips, he sued and lost.

                  I remember the old Super Lotto Plus game being 6/49+1 and a 5/6+1 match might have paid $2000 but a 5/6+0 always paid $1500 like Classic Lotto does today.

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                    Posted: May 17, 2014, 6:11 pm - IP Logged

                    I suppose its because odds are more favorable for such a large jackpot. But that's funny how no ones won in such a long time with such good odds.  Maybe tonight's the night and I say that everytime there is a draw.

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                      Posted: May 17, 2014, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

                      I suppose its because odds are more favorable for such a large jackpot. But that's funny how no ones won in such a long time with such good odds.  Maybe tonight's the night and I say that everytime there is a draw.

                      Saturday night drawings usually have the largest payouts so I assume it's because that's when the most tickets are sold so tonight could be the night.

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                        Posted: May 17, 2014, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

                        Saturday night drawings usually have the largest payouts so I assume it's because that's when the most tickets are sold so tonight could be the night.

                        Let's make it rain up in here!   Hurray!

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                          Posted: May 17, 2014, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

                          l am hoping one or two of lottery post regulars will wins the OCL - and when they do they will say.....

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                            Posted: May 18, 2014, 2:52 pm - IP Logged

                            Let's make it rain up in here!   Hurray!

                            Those aren't rain drops, they're tear drops.  Classic Lotto kept on rolling. Disapprove

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                              Posted: May 19, 2014, 1:41 pm - IP Logged

                              At one time matching 5 out of 6 in the Ohio Lotto game was paid pari-mutual

                              When was that?  Until Rolling Cash5 came along all Ohio games except the jackpots of their anchor game had fixed prize amounts unless all the prizes exceeded the cap and I only remember that happening once when a guy brought 20 Buckeye5 tickets matching all five numbers on each.  He expected to get the fixed amount of $100K for each winning ticket but the cap was one million dollars so the state went pari-mutual.  Although the cap was mention on the play slips, he sued and lost.

                              I remember the old Super Lotto Plus game being 6/49+1 and a 5/6+1 match might have paid $2000 but a 5/6+0 always paid $1500 like Classic Lotto does today.

                              The game was called Ohio Lotto, it was 6/40, and it and the 6/44 Super Lotto game that eventually replaced it in 1986 paid pari-mutual. When the pick-4 began it was only drawn 3 nights and it too was pari-mutual. When I just went to the Ohio Lottery website looking for their archives, I noticed that 8556 was drawn last night and it paid over $1000 for a box bet when it was first drawn in the 80s. The archives going back to 1979 are either no longer on the lottery site or they hid them pretty good because I can't find them.   

                              I remember the Buckeye 5 lawsuit over the payoff cap and the one against the store owner which was in doubt until witnesses testified the store owner gave the player a copy of the playing rules. I believe they even had it on tape. When it happened, I was trying to figure out why those five numbers had so much play and it never occurred to me all but one of those tickets belonged to one player because they only collect the $100,000 on ten tickets. The Ohio Lottery did the right thing by giving the other winner $100,000 too.

                                 
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