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Why is the Ohio Classic Lotto so difficult to win?

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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: May 4, 2014, 6:00 pm - IP Logged

That's just it. Why pump up MM over OCL and send more money out of state?

For MM, about 1/3 of every dollar spent goes to the eventual-jackpot-winner retirement fund. And that winner rarely lives in Ohio, and won't pay income taxes or spend money there with the win.

Actually I think Ohio is trying to pump up its players to buy even more MM tickets with the hope of improving their chances of winning its jackpot more often and keeping that money in state as well as getting the additional money from the other sates for taxing locally.

A better strategy might be to pump up its players to buy more OCL tickets or revamp the games such that it could be won more often thus making it more attractive which might result in more of its tickets being sold.

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    Sales for last Ohio Classic Lotto draw were lower than both PB and MM, even though odds are better and JP is higher:

    GameJPSales
    OCL$68.1M~$400K
    PB$40M$632K
    MM$59M$757K

    In spite of those MM sales compared with OCL sales,  Ohio has a promotion during May to increase MM sales when its jackpot is less than $100M.  Wagering $2 on MM tickets on draw night between 7:30PM and 10:45PM when its jackpot is less than $100M will earn a free MM quick pick.

    After 7:30 pm on Drawing nights only.

    That sounds like a ploy to keep out-of-staters from getting the deal on the MM tickets.

    Them dirty rats.

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      Posted: May 4, 2014, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

      After 7:30 pm on Drawing nights only.

      That sounds like a ploy to keep out-of-staters from getting the deal on the MM tickets.

      Them dirty rats.

      When I use to buy tickets for PB in Indiana I always traveled on drawing nights, the only problem was Indiana had several time zones and the stores closed early.

      At least all Ohio is on the same time and most of the stores and gas stations selling lottery tickets stay open until after the drawing.  Out of staters can still play but they will have to make a trip every night that they want to play.  Since MM is available in all the neighboring sates, would anyone travel to Ohio just to get a free MM ticket?(free ticket worth $1, gas for the trip worth $10)

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        When I use to buy tickets for PB in Indiana I always traveled on drawing nights, the only problem was Indiana had several time zones and the stores closed early.

        At least all Ohio is on the same time and most of the stores and gas stations selling lottery tickets stay open until after the drawing.  Out of staters can still play but they will have to make a trip every night that they want to play.  Since MM is available in all the neighboring sates, would anyone travel to Ohio just to get a free MM ticket?(free ticket worth $1, gas for the trip worth $10)

        I wonder if they'll let you buy multi-draws and still get the respective free tickets as long as you buy on a Drawing day after 7:30?

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          Posted: May 4, 2014, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

          I wonder if they'll let you buy multi-draws and still get the respective free tickets as long as you buy on a Drawing day after 7:30?

          They probably would but all the printed QPs would probably be for that night's drawing.  If I brought advance play I would try it to see what happened.

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            They probably would but all the printed QPs would probably be for that night's drawing.  If I brought advance play I would try it to see what happened.

             If I brought advance play I would try it to see what happened."

             

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              Posted: May 5, 2014, 2:36 am - IP Logged

               If I brought advance play I would try it to see what happened."

               

              I use to buy advance tickets when I traveled out of state to play because I didn't like to make the trip more than a couple times a year.  Now since I can play all games locally I only play one drawing at a time.

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                I use to buy advance tickets when I traveled out of state to play because I didn't like to make the trip more than a couple times a year.  Now since I can play all games locally I only play one drawing at a time.

                You're lucky.

                In Tennessee, we still have to travel out of state to find decent state games and games that don't have fake computer drawings like we do.

                A whole lot of people in East Tennessee go to Virginia to play their games for those reasons.

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                  Posted: May 5, 2014, 12:01 pm - IP Logged

                  You're lucky.

                  In Tennessee, we still have to travel out of state to find decent state games and games that don't have fake computer drawings like we do.

                  A whole lot of people in East Tennessee go to Virginia to play their games for those reasons.

                  Before Ohio added PowerBall and MegaMillions it had the same problem and seeing all those Ohio license plates at places across the boarder selling lottery tickets convinced them they had to do something different. 

                  Apparently for Tennessee players going out of state isn't a big problem or else it would be doing things differently too.

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                    Posted: May 5, 2014, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

                    Actually I think Ohio is trying to pump up its players to buy even more MM tickets with the hope of improving their chances of winning its jackpot more often and keeping that money in state as well as getting the additional money from the other sates for taxing locally.

                    A better strategy might be to pump up its players to buy more OCL tickets or revamp the games such that it could be won more often thus making it more attractive which might result in more of its tickets being sold.

                    The OCL jackpot looks pretty good compared to other games, but the low sales volume might be because the secondary prizes. For the same $1 ticket price, MM players can win on average much larger jackpots and win $1 million or $10,000 compared to OCL's $1500. Do you think the Ohio Lottery will replace OCL with another game after the current jackpot is won?

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                      The OCL jackpot looks pretty good compared to other games, but the low sales volume might be because the secondary prizes. For the same $1 ticket price, MM players can win on average much larger jackpots and win $1 million or $10,000 compared to OCL's $1500. Do you think the Ohio Lottery will replace OCL with another game after the current jackpot is won?

                      I doubt if Ohio has any plans to replace OCL.  Its jackpot does look pretty good now compared to other jackpot games but it took a year for it to get to that point and after it's won it will take another year for it to get to that point again.

                      It probably would sell more tickets if the odds of winning and amounts of its lower tier prizes were like those of MM but I doubt if that will ever happen.

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                        Posted: May 5, 2014, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

                        I wonder if they'll let you buy multi-draws and still get the respective free tickets as long as you buy on a Drawing day after 7:30?

                        Tuesday may be the last night you can try 'cause I suspect MM jackpot will be $100M+ for a while after then.  Good luck to you. Wink

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                          Posted: May 7, 2014, 7:09 am - IP Logged

                          Tuesday may be the last night you can try 'cause I suspect MM jackpot will be $100M+ for a while after then.  Good luck to you. Wink

                          Now that MM jackpot is greater $100M the free tickets deal is over for a while and we can get back to trying to win Ohio Classic Lotto.  Good luck everyone. Unhappy

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                            When I use to buy tickets for PB in Indiana I always traveled on drawing nights, the only problem was Indiana had several time zones and the stores closed early.

                            At least all Ohio is on the same time and most of the stores and gas stations selling lottery tickets stay open until after the drawing.  Out of staters can still play but they will have to make a trip every night that they want to play.  Since MM is available in all the neighboring sates, would anyone travel to Ohio just to get a free MM ticket?(free ticket worth $1, gas for the trip worth $10)

                            We have come into more modern times and are uniform on Eastern Time!  Oh, with the exception of the northern cities up around Chicago and they remain on Central Time.  I guess we are a state divided!  LOL!

                            I live 21 miles to the closest Ohio lottery vendor and since we both now have MM and PB I have no desire to drive to Ohio to buy tickets there.  Even the lure of the Ohio Classic doesn't seem worth the drive.

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                              We have come into more modern times and are uniform on Eastern Time!  Oh, with the exception of the northern cities up around Chicago and they remain on Central Time.  I guess we are a state divided!  LOL!

                              I live 21 miles to the closest Ohio lottery vendor and since we both now have MM and PB I have no desire to drive to Ohio to buy tickets there.  Even the lure of the Ohio Classic doesn't seem worth the drive.

                               "Even the lure of the Ohio Classic doesn't seem worth the drive."

                              Sounds like you are not completely convinced, you might buy a ticket or two if you found yourself at that vendor. Wink

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