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garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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Posted: September 6, 2015, 7:03 pm - IP Logged

Yeah Bob,

Did that.....tried setting compatibility as far back as XP, Service Pack 2. Tried reduced color mode, tried 8 bit color, 16 bit color, 640X800 screen, etc

 

Still looking for a solution.

There is an ntvdm64.dll for legacy support in the system32 folder of Windows 10.

And Microsoft is aware of problems running 16 bit programs with it:

Windows 10 32 bit NTVDM does not work with 16 bit

There are varying opinions on why, ranging from 64 bit processors can't work with 16 bit and 64 bit simultaneously to NTVDM was discontinued in 2014, to difference in clock speed, its a Microsoft conspiracy to get us to buy newer systems, etc. About the only thing I haven't read is ALIENS!

It seems some were lucky enough to have upgraded from Win7 or a (different) version of windows 8 and have NTVDM and/or the option to enable it.

Strangely none of this has affected QB64. It works perfect on both machines. Thinking since Galleon ported QB64 for 64 bit systems, and this was written in QB64, he may have some ideas.

The option, if all else fails, is to run a virtual machine. Or put it in one of the older systems until I find a solution.

Time to quit looking for a bit, get some dinner, and rethink what can be done.

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    RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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    Posted: September 6, 2015, 7:30 pm - IP Logged

    Gary

    I know nothing about windows 10 but it could be some sort of driver conflict.  It seems to run well on

    some computers and not so well on others even with the same OS.   The program is stand alone and

    everything is contained to the install folder.  What I am thinking is that one of the .DLL files may be

    causing the problem. 

    I am not an expert in this sort of thing so I won't be of much help.  The code will compile using the GL

    version which does not require the .DLL files but it has other glitches related to video.   I could compile

    both a 32 and 64 bit version but I don't have a 64 bit machine to test it on. 

     

    P.S the code sets the color to 256 if that helps.  I will also check to see it the SDL library has been

    updated for windows 10.  I am still using the same version as I did years ago.  I googled it and 

    came up with this link which should have the latest versions.  I don't have time to test it out but

    right now but someone here might.

    https://www.libsdl.org/download-2.0.php

     

    RL

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      Posted: September 6, 2015, 7:54 pm - IP Logged

      sasharp

      Are you changing the master slider to different values?  For the runs I ve made the master slider

      will help.  Lowering condition A may also help.

      RL

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        Posted: September 6, 2015, 7:56 pm - IP Logged

        RL

         

        Thanks a lot. The interface is great and sliders a big fun to play with.

         

        Adam

        Adam

        Which version of windows are you running? 

        RL

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          Posted: September 6, 2015, 7:59 pm - IP Logged

          I just checked and the program has been downloaded close to 600 times in the last 24 hours, if your

          having problems please leave a brief comment.  The more people post the faster a solution can be 

          found.

          RL

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            Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:03 pm - IP Logged

            sasharp

            Are you changing the master slider to different values?  For the runs I ve made the master slider

            will help.  Lowering condition A may also help.

            RL

            I'm lowering the Master Slider to the threshold between not having any sets picked and having the sets picked too quickly per instructions.  It seems I need to adjust the master slider anywhere between .57 - .61 for this type of threshold.

            Note - Even when trying a Multi State game such as Cash 4 Life the first number is mostly 09.

            I'll try lowering the A value.

            Thanks!

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              Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:05 pm - IP Logged

              Gary & Winsum

              Thanks for the all the help, it's just me on this end and I have limited time and resources for testing

              incompatibilities. 

              Thanks go out also to everyone working on finding the problem.

              RL

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                garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

                Gary

                I know nothing about windows 10 but it could be some sort of driver conflict.  It seems to run well on

                some computers and not so well on others even with the same OS.   The program is stand alone and

                everything is contained to the install folder.  What I am thinking is that one of the .DLL files may be

                causing the problem. 

                I am not an expert in this sort of thing so I won't be of much help.  The code will compile using the GL

                version which does not require the .DLL files but it has other glitches related to video.   I could compile

                both a 32 and 64 bit version but I don't have a 64 bit machine to test it on. 

                 

                P.S the code sets the color to 256 if that helps.  I will also check to see it the SDL library has been

                updated for windows 10.  I am still using the same version as I did years ago.  I googled it and 

                came up with this link which should have the latest versions.  I don't have time to test it out but

                right now but someone here might.

                https://www.libsdl.org/download-2.0.php

                 

                RL

                RL,

                I'm with you on the .DLL part. Its what got me to looking in the systems32 folder.

                Of course, I quit being an expert when they built the first pentium and started using hardware trackers........LMAO

                It's a strange thing. Never had one of your programs that would not run on the first try. Never had to fiddle with the NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) setting either.

                Like Steve said, and I did find, Microsoft had a KB release on NTVDM but no one seems to know what it was or why. That is part of the "Microsoft gave away Windows 10 to get us to move forward to the next level conspiracy."

                The Microsoft community has received complaints since Win7 about NTVDM. (One guy complained about losing $1500 in custom business software migrating from Win7 to Windows 8.)

                Sourceforge has a group working on a 64 bit .DLL  which may be an option. Haven't tried it. Want to get the easy stuff out of the way.

                This is the older windows 8 machine that set up for 2 years because I hated it.  Then I transferred the Win7 setting (which might have something to do with it.)

                Whatever the case, I'm far from completely unable to run it. I'm just curious why.

                We will find that out.

                Thanks for the reply and the info too, RL!

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                  Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:36 pm - IP Logged

                  Gary

                  I just sent you and winsum a GL complied version of the slider.exe file.  Check your message box.

                  RL

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                    Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:39 pm - IP Logged

                    RL,

                    Downloaded video had sound but no visual. Thanks for the free software. Dld

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                      Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

                      FD

                      When you exited the program did you use the Exit button or the windows red-X.  The program will only

                      save your settings when you use the Exit button.  Sometimes I hit the Red-X and loose my settings.  If

                      not then let me know if you have problems saving your setup as there might be a unknown bug.

                      Thanks for posting and nice job.

                      RL

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                        Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:54 pm - IP Logged

                        Hi all

                        I found a small bug in the code, the Sets-> counter does not refresh after running the Optimize option.

                        This will be a easy fix but will not upload a patch until I do a little more checking on the windows 10

                        issue.

                        RL

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                          Posted: September 6, 2015, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

                          did

                          You may need a updated codec pack for you media player.  It plays well on windows media player-11

                          P.S.  be careful downloading 3rd party codecs as many of them contain mal-ware.

                          RL

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                            Posted: September 6, 2015, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

                            Thanks Rl

                            all set.

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                              Posted: September 6, 2015, 9:18 pm - IP Logged

                              I installed it on 2 computers W7 and W8 everything work perfectly fine with me no problem at all.

                              The video to is working fine.

                              Frenchie

                                 
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