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adamcustom

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Sep 7, 2015, 5:29 pm

It looks that no matter what the previous winning numbers were the sets generated after the draw look very much like those generated before the draw.

These are the numbers generated after today's draw :

09 14 20 23 27
09 14 21 23 28
09 14 22 23 28
09 15 20 22 26
09 16 23 25 28
09 10 21 27 28
09 10 23 26 28
09 13 40 41 42

and these before this draw :

09 17 21 24 25
09 14 20 22 27
09 17 22 23 26
09 15 22 26 27
09 11 25 26 27
09 11 20 25 26
09 10 23 24 25
09 13 21 26 28

You can see they resemble a lot those generated before that draw. One would think they should differ much more.

Adam
sasharp65

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Sep 7, 2015, 5:34 pm

PA - Cash 5 (5/43) - AutoTuned.

09 13 32 36 37
09 17 30 31 32
09 17 35 37 39
09 13 30 31 32
09 12 31 33 38
09 13 34 35 37
09 13 30 35 36
09 18 33 35 37
09 16 31 32 37
09 14 32 36 37

Just doesn't look right.
winsumloosesum

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Sep 7, 2015, 6:18 pm

Windows 10 users.

I updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Pro 32 bit a few weeks ago.

Microsoft Update from 9/6/2015 I believe changed some settings whereas I could not open either TLex or Slider programs.

I went back and un-installed the most recent Windows Update. I wish I had made a screen shot of the update but these are the updates I have currently on my computer.

I don't recommend doing the following but I watched this Youtube video and disabled any future Windows 10 updates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIMGJtwtc38

I then selected the most recent Update (not listed in the screen shot above). Re-started my computer and now both TLex and Slider work.
lakerben

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Sep 7, 2015, 7:30 pm

I downloaded the program. I got it to run. Does it take awhile to run or can I stop it?

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sasharp65

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Sep 7, 2015, 7:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by sasharp65 on Sep 7, 2015
PA - Cash 5 (5/43) - AutoTuned.

09 13 32 36 37
09 17 30 31 32
09 17 35 37 39
09 13 30 31 32
09 12 31 33 38
09 13 34 35 37
09 13 30 35 36
09 18 33 35 37
09 16 31 32 37
09 14 32 36 37

Just doesn't look right.

Drawing -> 14 17 19 24 43

After updating the Database for my game and re-running for tomorrow night's draw, the picks look better but still nothing on the low end.

One thing that I noticed for these picks. I had the Master Slider on 0.58 for 10 minutes and no sets. When I bumped it down to 0.57 all 10 sets were within

3500 tries.

Run 1

07 10 26 37 41
07 10 20 21 38
07 11 21 26 34
07 16 25 26 34
08 15 33 35 41
07 14 30 40 41
07 13 23 26 31
08 12 28 34 37
08 18 22 34 39
07 10 24 35 40

Also - if you keep erasing and running on the same set up you get different results.

Run 2

06 16 23 34 39
06 14 22 34 35
07 12 23 37 41
07 12 25 32 40
07 19 27 36 41
08 13 25 32 33
08 17 28 31 32
09 13 27 28 29
08 18 33 36 42
07 12 25 36 42

Run 3

07 18 22 37 41
09 13 20 23 25
07 19 20 25 39
08 14 31 36 41
07 10 21 35 40
06 16 28 34 35
07 19 21 29 30
06 17 27 32 38
07 13 20 25 35
06 16 29 35 38
lakerben

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Sep 7, 2015, 8:36 pm

I put the master slider close the the bottom (.27) and it works.

NM p3

1-1-0
5-2-8
7-1-1
1-2-1
8-7-7
4-6-3
2-7-1
9-4-5
1-9-3
5-9-1

I tried the Kansas game and it works for p5.

12 18 29 33 35
10 14 27 29 32
03 04 06 23 36
02 03 09 16 37
12 17 18 29 33
03 08 31 32 33
18 21 30 32 37
14 16 17 28 32
04 05 10 24 26
02 05 14 25 31
01 09 16 25 32
04 15 17 18 25
10 15 16 20 31
01 06 10 23 32
03 19 22 28 29
05 06 25 28 31
03 17 22 23 26
01 03 06 14 20
03 10 15 27 28
01 08 14 24 28

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Sep 7, 2015, 10:02 pm

Adam

The auto-tune, tunes the conditions to imitate the history of the game. From one game to the next

it is going to produce very similar lines. That's the way it's suppose to work. The master slider will

change the sets because it changes which lines will pass the conditions. This is not a system but

a bias-tuned RNG. I guess one could drop the samples down to 10 or so and maybe get different

lines game to game with the same settings but that kind of changes the programs intended purpose.

The sliders can be analyzed and set by the user and if a condition is considered to have a very good

chance of showing in the next game then the higher the slider is set the more likely that condition will

have to be met. Likewise the lower the slider is set the lower that condition has to be met. Slider A

seems to have a large effect on the lowest number in each line. The master slider can change just

about any aspect of the entire line. Setting a slider to a lower value does not block that condition,

but it does allow other conditions to have a greater effect. To run the program as a regular filter then

set each slide to either 0.00 or 1.00 and set the master to 1.00. The program will then function as a

exact filtered RNG. The lines your getting are the lines that most match the history of the game based

on the sliders settings.

R-click the Data-B button and you will see a list of the historic hits for each of the 13 conditions. Below is

a small sample from my 6-44. From this list you can see that how the number of conditions that are met

changes quite a bit draw to draw. I have not seen a game where all 13 were ever met within the same

game. The idea behind the master slider is to allow different conditions to be met without blocking or

locking any one condition. This program is not meant to be a system but a alternative to QP/s

MO 6-44

----xx-xxx---
x-xx-xxxxx-x-
---x-xxx---xx
xxxx--x-xx---
x-xxxxx-xx---
x--xxx-xx-xx-
--x---xxxx---
xx--xx-xxx--x
x--xxx-xxxx-x
xxx--xxx-----
xxx-x-xxxx-xx <- 10 conditions met ABC-E-GHIJ-LM
--xx-xxx---x-
xx-xx-xx----x
---x-x-xxxx--
xxx-xxxxxx---
x--xxxxx----x
x-x--x-xx--xx
xxxx-xx-----x
--x-xx-x----x
x-x--x-xx--x-
xx-x-x-x--x-x
xx-xxxxxxx---
xxx-xxxxxx-x-

RL

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Sep 7, 2015, 10:12 pm

LB

The lower the master slide is set the dumber the lines produced will be. If all the sliders were set to 0.00

then the lines generated would be completely random.

RL

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Sep 7, 2015, 10:19 pm

Quote: Originally posted by lakerben on Sep 7, 2015
I downloaded the program. I got it to run. Does it take awhile to run or can I stop it?

The program has several methods to stop the run process which are covered on page 1.

Timed stop -> set in minutes

Line stop -> after reaching this value it will stop

Press [Abort] button

Press "Q" on the keyboard

RL

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lakerben

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Sep 7, 2015, 11:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 7, 2015
LB

The lower the master slide is set the dumber the lines produced will be. If all the sliders were set to 0.00

then the lines generated would be completely random.

RL

Thanks for responding. I left the other sliders in their original position. I set the master slider to .27 so I could get some output lines. When I had it higher I wasn't getting any output. I'll play around with this program I think it's great!

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Sep 8, 2015, 12:08 am

LB

The time-stop and line-stop work together and the program will stop when either the the total line count

equals the Line-stop value or the time-stop has elapsed, whichever comes first. Both these settings are

in the config option and can be adjusted with right or left mouse click.

RL

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adamcustom

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Sep 8, 2015, 6:19 am

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 7, 2015
Adam

The auto-tune, tunes the conditions to imitate the history of the game. From one game to the next

it is going to produce very similar lines. That's the way it's suppose to work. The master slider will

change the sets because it changes which lines will pass the conditions. This is not a system but

a bias-tuned RNG. I guess one could drop the samples down to 10 or so and maybe get different

lines game to game with the same settings but that kind of changes the programs intended purpose.

The sliders can be analyzed and set by the user and if a condition is considered to have a very good

chance of showing in the next game then the higher the slider is set the more likely that condition will

have to be met. Likewise the lower the slider is set the lower that condition has to be met. Slider A

seems to have a large effect on the lowest number in each line. The master slider can change just

about any aspect of the entire line. Setting a slider to a lower value does not block that condition,

but it does allow other conditions to have a greater effect. To run the program as a regular filter then

set each slide to either 0.00 or 1.00 and set the master to 1.00. The program will then function as a

exact filtered RNG. The lines your getting are the lines that most match the history of the game based

on the sliders settings.

R-click the Data-B button and you will see a list of the historic hits for each of the 13 conditions. Below is

a small sample from my 6-44. From this list you can see that how the number of conditions that are met

changes quite a bit draw to draw. I have not seen a game where all 13 were ever met within the same

game. The idea behind the master slider is to allow different conditions to be met without blocking or

locking any one condition. This program is not meant to be a system but a alternative to QP/s

MO 6-44

----xx-xxx---
x-xx-xxxxx-x-
---x-xxx---xx
xxxx--x-xx---
x-xxxxx-xx---
x--xxx-xx-xx-
--x---xxxx---
xx--xx-xxx--x
x--xxx-xxxx-x
xxx--xxx-----
xxx-x-xxxx-xx <- 10 conditions met ABC-E-GHIJ-LM
--xx-xxx---x-
xx-xx-xx----x
---x-x-xxxx--
xxx-xxxxxx---
x--xxxxx----x
x-x--x-xx--xx
xxxx-xx-----x
--x-xx-x----x
x-x--x-xx--x-
xx-x-x-x--x-x
xx-xxxxxxx---
xxx-xxxxxx-x-

RL

Craig,

Thanks for the explanation.I did check right clicking Dbase and it practically never happens that all the conditions are met, ar. 30- 40% of them are not passed.

I also checked some other things as samples and I would say that going down to 50 or so seems to have a better impact on the results, but you never know as it may be due to chance as well. My 5/42 seems to do terribly and 6/49 much better, but it's gonna take time to see if it really is what it looks like.

For 6/49 I've found these setting to do quite ok:

Regression: 3

Samples : 49

Range : 3

Master slider : 0.68

Adam
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Sep 8, 2015, 10:14 am

Hi all

This morning I rewrote the code for the master slide and it made a big difference in the lines generated.

I am now rewriting the Re-Cal option and think I can make it so that it will tune the master slide to a much

better starting point. I am also working on the bonus ball code and hope to have a patch ready in a day

or two. I did quite a bit of testing yesterday and found several areas that need improvements.

RL

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lakerben

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Sep 8, 2015, 10:46 am

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 8, 2015
Hi all

This morning I rewrote the code for the master slide and it made a big difference in the lines generated.

I am now rewriting the Re-Cal option and think I can make it so that it will tune the master slide to a much

better starting point. I am also working on the bonus ball code and hope to have a patch ready in a day

or two. I did quite a bit of testing yesterday and found several areas that need improvements.

RL

Thanks for all your hard work!

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Sep 8, 2015, 10:58 am

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Sep 8, 2015
Hi all

This morning I rewrote the code for the master slide and it made a big difference in the lines generated.

I am now rewriting the Re-Cal option and think I can make it so that it will tune the master slide to a much

better starting point. I am also working on the bonus ball code and hope to have a patch ready in a day

or two. I did quite a bit of testing yesterday and found several areas that need improvements.

RL

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