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Posted: November 24, 2016, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

Hello , monel = 11 = 1.21,31
             23 = 03, 13 33
            26 = 6.16,36
          31 = 1.11,21
Eventually you can repeat a position, but for a prize of 4 hits it already helps
Then in the next do not play the latest draw = 07,11,21,33,36
Their fillers = 06.08 10 12 20 22 32 34 35 37
And do not play in the same positions = are 5 plus 10 plus 15 = there are 30 numbers to exclude
  Sobra 9 = to try when leaving the above pattern pick up prizes of 3.4, and maybe 5

I still don't understand, but never mind that, I don't anyway play any lottery games at this time and might never do, but Who knows? I don't even know what I will do tomorrow, so one day I might play lottery games and or a lottery game.

Good luck!

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    Posted: November 24, 2016, 3:00 pm - IP Logged

    Hello, monel your filter structure is correct, perfect
      Do you have a draw for the 39/5 to see?

    California (CA) Fantasy 5
     
    Wed, Nov 23, 2016    21-25-26-32-33
    Tue, Nov 22, 2016    07-13-15-20-34
    Mon, Nov 21, 2016    01-22-23-28-31
    Sun, Nov 20, 2016    02-07-23-34-37
    Sat, Nov 19, 2016    02-11-21-23-25
    Fri, Nov 18, 2016    13-17-21-28-31
    Thu, Nov 17, 2016    02-19-23-32-33
    Wed, Nov 16, 2016    05-18-28-31-38
    Tue, Nov 15, 2016    08-23-24-32-39
    Mon, Nov 14, 2016    04-15-21-22-26
    Sun, Nov 13, 2016    02-17-23-30-31
    Sat, Nov 12, 2016    06-08-19-25-34
    Fri, Nov 11, 2016    03-21-26-30-35
    Thu, Nov 10, 2016    05-19-24-30-33
    Wed, Nov 09, 2016    15-20-21-25-34
    Tue, Nov 08, 2016    01-14-30-32-34
    Mon, Nov 07, 2016    01-02-25-28-39
    Sun, Nov 06, 2016    11-23-31-34-37
    Sat, Nov 05, 2016    09-17-25-27-38
    Fri, Nov 04, 2016    09-17-19-24-39
    Thu, Nov 03, 2016    05-12-15-27-32
    Wed, Nov 02, 2016    08-15-25-29-30
    Tue, Nov 01, 2016    16-17-21-27-29
    Mon, Oct 31, 2016    14-26-32-33-38
    Sun, Oct 30, 2016    09-10-15-19-38
    Sat, Oct 29, 2016    03-07-15-24-39
    Fri, Oct 28, 2016    04-06-16-17-25
    Thu, Oct 27, 2016    11-18-19-21-34
    Wed, Oct 26, 2016    01-02-09-24-34
    Tue, Oct 25, 2016    11-22-29-33-35

    My memory is failing me, but you have 0 1 2 and 3 as Lth Digits, that is 4 kinds and 0 to 9 as Rth Digits and that is enough, why try to reinvent the wheel? Even with my failing memory I can still see that.

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      bgonçalves
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      Posted: November 24, 2016, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

      Hello, moneL you have to insist until the pattern goes out
      In other words, continue to play the standard in various games
        Noa is the game but the default
        1st step = the last draw
      2nd step = its adjacent
      Step 3 = do not play in the same letters, or in positions,
        Equals the base number
        Is easy
        Play until the pattern is drawn

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        Posted: November 24, 2016, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

        Hello, moneL you have to insist until the pattern goes out
        In other words, continue to play the standard in various games
          Noa is the game but the default
          1st step = the last draw
        2nd step = its adjacent
        Step 3 = do not play in the same letters, or in positions,
          Equals the base number
          Is easy
          Play until the pattern is drawn

        I would be wasting my time developing winning techniques for jackpot kind of games such as a pick 5 game, I can develop them (the techniques) for sure, but Why?

        Without the proper "tailor-made" software, made just for those techniques, I could not use the techniques, it would just be a waste of time.

        There are many things that I could do yes, but a total waste of time, without having the proper software.

        The problem is not, not being able to develop filtering and or winning techniques, but not having proper lottery software for those techniques, I will not waste my time developing techniques that I can't use, due to not having the proper software for those techniques.

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          bgonçalves
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          Posted: November 24, 2016, 6:34 pm - IP Logged

          Hello monel, you can also work only the end or last digit of the pick5
          In other words, you can work the pick 5 like a pick3
          We have 10 positions
          123xx
          124
          125
          134
          135
          145
          234
          235
          245
          xx345  10 positions

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            Posted: November 24, 2016, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

            Hello , monel = 11 = 1.21,31
                         23 = 03, 13 33
                        26 = 6.16,36
                      31 = 1.11,21
            Eventually you can repeat a position, but for a prize of 4 hits it already helps
            Then in the next do not play the latest draw = 07,11,21,33,36
            Their fillers = 06.08 10 12 20 22 32 34 35 37
            And do not play in the same positions = are 5 plus 10 plus 15 = there are 30 numbers to exclude
              Sobra 9 = to try when leaving the above pattern pick up prizes of 3.4, and maybe 5

            'Hello , monel = 11 = 1.21,3

                                    23 = 03, 13 33                         

                                    26 = 6.16,36

                                    31 = 1.11,21'

             

            What you're saying is:

             

            The drawing 07,11,21,33 and 36 which has 5 numbers and each number has 3 same last digits ( 5/39 game )

            07=17,27,37    3 same last digits

            11=1,21,31      3 same last digits

            21=1,11,31     

            33=3,13,23     

            36=6,16,26

             

            'Their fillers = 06.08   10 12   20 22   32 34  35 37'

             

            'Their filters' mean the previous and the next number of each of the numbers drawn...

            So, first number is 7 and the number before 7 is 6 and the number after 7 is 8  Their fillers = 06.08

            Second number is 11, the number before 11 is 10 and then follows

            12 after 11                                                                                                             Their fillers = 10,12

            Third = 21                                                                                                              Their fillers =  20,22

            Fourth = 33                                                                                                            Their fillers =  32,34

            Fifth = 36                                                                                                                Their fillers =  35,37

             

            'And do not play in the same positions = are 5 plus 10 plus 15 = there are 30 numbers to exclude'

            The 5 numbers drawn = 7,11,21,33,36

             

            And do not play in the same positions =are 5plus 10 plus 15 = there are 30 numbers to exclude

            The previous and the next number of each of the numbers drawn = 06,08,10,12,20,22,32,34,35,37

             

            'And do not play in the same positions = are 5 plus 10 plus 15 = there are 30 numbers to exclude

            Three same last digits of each of the numbers drawn equals the 15 numbers; 30 numbers total...

             

            Am I right Doc or not?

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              bgonçalves
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              Hello,riscknight, yes!!!! you are right, the adjacent ones are always the last draw for the next one.
              You can use the same system for 49/6.
              You have to play until the pattern is drawn.

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                Posted: November 25, 2016, 5:48 am - IP Logged

                dr san, find one of your friends who speaks 'very good English' and ask him to translate your ideas; if you could that, other members here would be able to help and understand you much faster.

                And keep trying... trial and error - it has always been that way.

                All the best dr san.

                Take care...

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                  Posted: November 26, 2016, 12:57 pm - IP Logged

                  He's an English professor of an US university.

                  The polish might just be drunk Irish.

                  And, I don't know if RL is real. Maybe he's someone else.

                  ...

                  Pull the plug!

                  Maybe you should loose the sunglasses and grow a few brain cells.  Adam's location is easy enough to confirm.

                  Rj's  system fail was not from using to few numbers, IMHO.  Not putting him down, just the method he was using. 

                  He seems to have gave up and jumped on the jimbozo train of thought. 

                  OK, now with that said, lets dig into the many reasons that playing a subset is a good idea.  Example, lets say that

                  two people decide to play the lottery.  P-1 randomly selects 5 numbers from a list of 39 numbers.  The odds for each

                  prize is listed below.

                  match 5 = 1 in 575757

                  match 4 = 1 in 3386.8

                  match 3 = 1 in 102,6

                  match 2 = 1 in 9.6

                  match 1 = 1 in 2.48

                  match 0 = 1 in 2.06

                  P-2 plays a single line from a sub-set of 30 randomly selected numbers.  Since 30 numbers will wheel into 142,506 lines

                  we can divide 575757/142506 and get 4.04 or 25% of the total matrix.  From this we can conclude that safely assume that

                  1 of every 4 draws the winning set will come from the 30 number group.  Since any 5 number combo can be drawn the odds

                  never change but on the draws where the 5 winning numbers come from the group of 30 numbers then we can calculate new

                  odds for any prize level hit.

                  match 5 = 1 in 142506  4.04xbetter

                  match 4 = 1 in 1140      2.97xbetter

                  match 3 = 1 in 47.5       2.16xbetter

                  match 2 = 1 in 6.19       1.55xbetter

                  match 1 = 1 in 2.25       1.10xbetter

                  match 0 = 1 in 2.68   <- the odds for not getting a single number in increased while prize paying matches go down.

                  Before the drawing both players have the same exact odds of 1 in 575757 but once the numbers have been drawn then

                  P-2 will have much better odds then P-1.   Since 30 numbers have almost a 100% chance of matching 4 of the 5 winning

                  numbers the chances of matching 4 numbers do suffer but are not eliminated.

                  Question 1.  Prove to me how playing all 39 numbers is better.  Seems that you and your brain trust need to go back to

                  school.  Remember, the person playing 5 numbers from the full pool and the person playing from the 30 number pool both

                  have the same exact odds for winning a prize before the drawing.  This goes for any set of 5 numbers chosen.

                  jimbozo use to dance around this problem and would sidestep the issue every time he was asked to consider more than

                  one drawing.  Bate and switch and then use straw-man arguments was his favorite trolling tactics, well that and when

                  successful he never failed to leave a demeaning comment trying to make his target look bad thinking it made him look

                  smart.  I pity the people who fell into his snare.

                   

                  Now, your the one that should hang up and go away.

                  RL

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                    dr san

                    From what I gather your saying that we should remove the current number from not only the first XY place but from all

                    other places it may show.  This would indeed lower the total pool size but in the simulation results I posted, even when

                    the extra numbers were added the total hits were not consistent enough.  I don't know if you remember the dos version

                    of the followers program I uploaded a long time ago but the wife could very often hit all the groups in six choices and many

                    times pin down 2 numbers.  If I could convert into code the way she made her analysis then I would have a 24 pool with

                    2 key numbers for 1540 total lines. 

                    Still searching. 

                    RL

                    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                    USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                      dr san

                      From what I gather your saying that we should remove the current number from not only the first XY place but from all

                      other places it may show.  This would indeed lower the total pool size but in the simulation results I posted, even when

                      the extra numbers were added the total hits were not consistent enough.  I don't know if you remember the dos version

                      of the followers program I uploaded a long time ago but the wife could very often hit all the groups in six choices and many

                      times pin down 2 numbers.  If I could convert into code the way she made her analysis then I would have a 24 pool with

                      2 key numbers for 1540 total lines. 

                      Still searching. 

                      RL

                      Craig

                      That's exactly the problem I have with making a video on the way I pick digits and groups. It is as if some of my choices were more like instinct-dictated than strictly reason-based. Still working on it.

                      Adam

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                        I agree, we often think that we can show everyone just how we made our selections until we try to put it down

                        on paper.  There is a element of instinct, best guess etc that's so easy to ignore until we try to write it down.  The

                        lottery is random and it takes all the analysis we can muster, a few repeating patterns and finally a good ol guess.

                        It's the guessing mechanism that's unique to our own understanding of the game.  This was IMHO the reason that

                        the joint analysis lottery pool failed.  When a member found something that worked for them everyone else tried to

                        use it.  Two people can use the same software and one will win consistently while the other only helps build the JP.     

                        Good instincts will always be better then the most expensive software.  Find a software that works hand in hand

                        with our instincts and the wins will increase.

                        RL

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                          US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                          We have the software that works but i think very few of us use it. My video i put up i didnt mention some of the things i do prior to picking my lexi digits or how i decide on my filter settings. That part is all in the learning process.

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                            I agree, we often think that we can show everyone just how we made our selections until we try to put it down

                            on paper.  There is a element of instinct, best guess etc that's so easy to ignore until we try to write it down.  The

                            lottery is random and it takes all the analysis we can muster, a few repeating patterns and finally a good ol guess.

                            It's the guessing mechanism that's unique to our own understanding of the game.  This was IMHO the reason that

                            the joint analysis lottery pool failed.  When a member found something that worked for them everyone else tried to

                            use it.  Two people can use the same software and one will win consistently while the other only helps build the JP.     

                            Good instincts will always be better then the most expensive software.  Find a software that works hand in hand

                            with our instincts and the wins will increase.

                            RL

                            I think the word experience or " seen that pattern before" plays a role here. Then there's a click in my head saying " it's a miss". That better decribes the process taking place in some cases.

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                              notmyday

                              When I wrote DMP it was done over many years and new items were added until we have what it is today.  I understand

                              it better than most because for me it was the need to continue something that led to each new option.  When I placed it

                              for download I never considered how complex it could seem for first time users as each new option for me was part of a

                              natural process.

                              I knew the existing stuff inside out and since the new stuff was related somehow to the old it was just a matter of interface.

                              This made the learning curve very low for me but a nightmare for first time users.  I did however manage to adapt everything

                              so that in general the interface worked the same way across the entire program.  I use to tell people that the only time I look

                              at numbers is when I fill out my betslips.  I think that is one of the hardest things to understand, building lines using a sort of

                              reverse engineering process. 

                              Anyway, I think those who were willing to stick with it have improved their play.  I don't get upset if someone decides it's not

                              for them as lots of stuff others use, makes no sense to me.  Always glad to hear some people are still using it.  The lexie was

                              created for pool play where each member would have been assigned one position to work on.  The pool folded before the lexie

                              program was converted for pool play so never really got to use it.

                              RL

                              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                                US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020