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RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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Posted: November 29, 2016, 4:10 pm - IP Logged

RSP is a offshoot of the rogue program, it stands for "rogue-straight-pair" 

Example, a 5-39 has 10 rogue values.  when looking at the string of values there are 9 possible straight pairs in each

line.  It's not pairs of only same digits but any pairing. ab bc cd de ef fg gh hi ij

1011322031
0021100201
0221311131
1002220213
1113333100
0332130112

The top string in the above list is A-B=10  B-C=01 etc....  So lets say that I am sure the next game will have a 10 somewhere

in the string.  Any possible combination that does not have a 10 consecutive values is rejected.  Notice that the 3rd, 4th and

5th string do not contain a 01 pair.  The RSP allows one to choose to include, exclude or run wild.  There are 16 pairings of 

values, 01 and 10 are different pairs same as 13 and 31.    This string "1113333100"  has pairs 11-13-33-31-10-00 or 6 of 

the 16 possible.  When used as a filter setting or blocking two pairs can reduce by as much as 50%.  To understand why this

is so effective lets say that we analyze the data and think the pair 00 and 13 will show somewhere in the next draw.  We are

limited to where these values can be placed because when the rogue setup was made some values are locked to a position in

the string.  Again lets say that I set the first 5 values to 11231 leaving the last 5 wild.  Now lets say that the RSP analysis for

a 00 to show is very good then I have F-G, G-H, H-I and I-J etc to place it, if I also have to include a 13 somewhere in the string

then that limits things even more.  The program does all the work, I just have to deal with each pair as play, block or wild.

0 = Block, 1=Include W=wild

The pic below shows how the analysis data is displayed.  I never look at the actual pairs as they are displayed in the format

below so the only data I see is zeros and ones.  There are bias, steps and S/C  tools for each position to help decide on a 

value. 

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I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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    RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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    Posted: November 29, 2016, 4:24 pm - IP Logged

    Note!

    There are 16 possible pairings of digits 0 to 3 which are indicated by A through P.  I have no idea which pair is represented

    by the letter value.  "A" could be any of the 16 pairs, it's not necessary to know.  This frees me to just analyze the data at

    hand.  Do I think the next value will be a (0) or a (1).  When there are no clear indicators I set it (w) for wild. The program

    does everything else.

    RL

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    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

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      RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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      Posted: November 29, 2016, 4:36 pm - IP Logged

      Here is a list of the rogue straight pairs.  It shows the pair, then number of times it has hit and the skip/hits.  We can see from the

      data displayed 00 in the last 10 games largest skip was 2 games.  I don't remember how many games are used to compile the list. 

      Thinking it is 100 but not sure.   03 is the top hitter at 50 shows and zero games out.

       

      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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        RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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        Posted: November 29, 2016, 4:45 pm - IP Logged

        I also have the rogue-box-trays but have never used it.  It could be used as a filter but I just look at the data to get an idea

        which trays might show in the next game.  Since it's not position specific it would not be as effective as a filter. For instance

        box tray 011 has only missed one game in the last 11 games.  This means that 0-1-1 have taken up 3 of the 10 rogue values

        in 10 of 11 games.

        If this list is compiled from 100 draws then 78% had at least one digit-0 + one digit-2 and one digit-3, box pair 0-2-3.

        RL

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        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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          Posted: November 29, 2016, 5:00 pm - IP Logged

          On your str pairs do you have them broke down to what 2 positions? So if 12 pair should hit which 2 positions is best to play them in. whether it be ab bc cd etc.

            RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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            Just using the rogue pairs and trays one can get very close on which digits will be in the next draw.  However this does not

            help placing them, that for now has to be done by hand and is a nightmare.  I need to write a simple tool to automate the

            process.

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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              notmyday's avatar - 8ball
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              Posted: November 29, 2016, 5:03 pm - IP Logged

              Well that answered my question as you posted it.

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                Posted: November 29, 2016, 5:47 pm - IP Logged

                I kind of got off topic here but wanted to show why using a 30 number matrix to start with would allow me to reach

                my play budget without much work.  The rogue only takes up 2 of the six game engines in the CF program.  With any

                lottery program I would think they all have certain values/settings that are easy to predict.  The problem is that to

                reduce to a playable amount one has to use more and more options which get harder and harder to predict.  By using

                unrelated systems and applying the output of one to input of the next and just setting the easy stuff is the way to go

                IMHO.  The DMP series of programs were very good IMHO but required too many values to be set to reach the average

                players budget, filters are jackpot killers.  I would hate to estimate the number of times I had the 5 0f 5 only to loose it

                filtering down from a few hundred to 10 or 15 lines.   Anyway, still looking for a good method to reduce a 5-39 down to

                30 numbers with a high hit rate.   

                RL

                Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                  RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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                  Posted: November 29, 2016, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

                  The wife took over tonight, can't wait to see how she did.  She made me pick the tickets up, maybe she will cut me

                  in if she wins.

                  RL

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                    Posted: November 30, 2016, 2:24 pm - IP Logged

                    RL,

                    you wrote in one old post:

                    10 rogue values =  1 line

                    9 rogue values = 3 lines

                    if every rogue have 4 values how you have 3 lines? Isn't it 4 lines because 10th rogue is open with all values. Just curious.

                     

                    regards

                    lottoswe

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                      Posted: November 30, 2016, 2:34 pm - IP Logged

                      RSP is a offshoot of the rogue program, it stands for "rogue-straight-pair" 

                      Example, a 5-39 has 10 rogue values.  when looking at the string of values there are 9 possible straight pairs in each

                      line.  It's not pairs of only same digits but any pairing. ab bc cd de ef fg gh hi ij

                      1011322031
                      0021100201
                      0221311131
                      1002220213
                      1113333100
                      0332130112

                      The top string in the above list is A-B=10  B-C=01 etc....  So lets say that I am sure the next game will have a 10 somewhere

                      in the string.  Any possible combination that does not have a 10 consecutive values is rejected.  Notice that the 3rd, 4th and

                      5th string do not contain a 01 pair.  The RSP allows one to choose to include, exclude or run wild.  There are 16 pairings of 

                      values, 01 and 10 are different pairs same as 13 and 31.    This string "1113333100"  has pairs 11-13-33-31-10-00 or 6 of 

                      the 16 possible.  When used as a filter setting or blocking two pairs can reduce by as much as 50%.  To understand why this

                      is so effective lets say that we analyze the data and think the pair 00 and 13 will show somewhere in the next draw.  We are

                      limited to where these values can be placed because when the rogue setup was made some values are locked to a position in

                      the string.  Again lets say that I set the first 5 values to 11231 leaving the last 5 wild.  Now lets say that the RSP analysis for

                      a 00 to show is very good then I have F-G, G-H, H-I and I-J etc to place it, if I also have to include a 13 somewhere in the string

                      then that limits things even more.  The program does all the work, I just have to deal with each pair as play, block or wild.

                      0 = Block, 1=Include W=wild

                      The pic below shows how the analysis data is displayed.  I never look at the actual pairs as they are displayed in the format

                      below so the only data I see is zeros and ones.  There are bias, steps and S/C  tools for each position to help decide on a 

                      value. 

                      Craig

                      Thanks for the explanation. So in a word it works together with rogue function, sort of as RAC works best with digits and groups.

                      Adam

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                        Posted: November 30, 2016, 3:28 pm - IP Logged

                        RL,

                        you wrote in one old post:

                        10 rogue values =  1 line

                        9 rogue values = 3 lines

                        if every rogue have 4 values how you have 3 lines? Isn't it 4 lines because 10th rogue is open with all values. Just curious.

                         

                        regards

                        lottoswe

                        Most likely a typo in the post.  Each rogue left wild increases the lines generated by 4.

                        1-4-16-64-256-1024-4096 etc....  However, some early versions had errors due to the

                        way calculations were rounded.   The type of conversion used does not really matter. 

                        The tricky part is being able to convert back and forth on the fly from any point. 

                        RL

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                          Posted: December 1, 2016, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

                          Filtering is a great problem with almost any setup you might use. Two days ago I decide to play my P-6. The setup as such with digits and groups produced 1,900 sets. I didn't want to use any filters at all and as I realized that no reduction might really help I decided to use RLP option on my setup. This is not a customized RLP for that game so the risk was a bit higher than with P-5.

                          That's what I got and played.

                          As you can see it's almost there.

                          AdamP6

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                            Posted: December 1, 2016, 1:13 pm - IP Logged

                            Most likely a typo in the post.  Each rogue left wild increases the lines generated by 4.

                            1-4-16-64-256-1024-4096 etc....  However, some early versions had errors due to the

                            way calculations were rounded.   The type of conversion used does not really matter. 

                            The tricky part is being able to convert back and forth on the fly from any point. 

                            RL

                            Thank you.

                            Another idea: if you choose one value of the first rogue you can filter only lines that begins with that number.

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