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reddog's avatar - patch
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Posted: September 16, 2003, 2:29 pm - IP Logged

Speaking of theories, I have this one to ponder.

What are the chances that each ping pong ball weighs the same?

They revolve around until air is bad the ball to the top of the shutte.

Lighter balls with less grams of fat revolve closer to the top. They get sucked up first.

Ever wonder how often the balls are switched out?

    reddog's avatar - patch
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    My point is this;;; gravitational pull vs. RNG. Hmmm.

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      Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 16, 2003


      how it is possible to predict the order that these balls are bouncing with a computer program.



      FEA (Finite Element Analysis). They were able to test-fly a Boeing 777 before they even built a scale model... Dassault Systems CATIA... big 3 automakers can design whole cars and predict with amazing accuracy how a given design will react under stress or in a crash test... Supercomputers (or the newer inexpensve [relatively inexpensive] Linux Beowulf Clusters can run N-Body gravitational simulations... they are WAY over my head but basically it can simulate every molecule in a given solar system.

      I'm not so quick to dismiss the possibility that given the limitations on each draw dvent, that the so-called randomness can be modelled... I also am realistic enough to know I'm too stupid to pull it off... but it's the TRYING that's fun, the learning. While I expect no book to have a cookie cutter recipie for what I'm after, you'd be surprised how much you pick up along the way... be it programming skills, math ability (Can't believe how much I FORGOT since High School), or the fun of trying to "beat the system" without going broke with big wheels or the like.


       

      Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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        Posted: September 16, 2003, 3:01 pm - IP Logged

        pick4,

        nevermind.&n

                    "i am .........."meant to"       

        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

          reddog's avatar - patch
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          I am enjoying this discussion tremendously because it is being discussed in an adult way. Hopefully no one is getting to Peed off from the challenge of their integrity. Vision dude, I appreciate your conservatism.

          I still ponder the question; how can each ping pong ball weigh the same?  Unless they are pre-weighed prior to dropping them in the shutte.  Anybody with ideas??


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            Thomas I think your missing the point "I DO UNDERSTAND" what your saying with the fruit analogy but we are not dealing with Fruit like the Video Slot Machines do we are dealing with numbers that have a Mathematical or Scientific basis the Fruit are not the same because Fruits have nothing to do with odds or math your just using them as an image on the balls and YES the numbers are images as well on the balls but the numbers ACTUALLY represent things in life like ages,ratios,calculations,formulas etc.... the fruit do not.We don't use fruit to represent anything like that we use them for flavors and food.Gambling is Psychological so when we use numbers they actually represent things in the Math and Science world so when we apply the numbers to gambling in Lottery we gamblers can relate to that.Take for example Casino Card games they use Numbers along with the Card Imagery (Spades,Hearts,Clubs etc...)I bet if you took away the numbers it would throw everyone off Psychologically because they couldn't grasp the images like they can with the numbers.If the Lottery used Fruits to represent the Ping-Pong Balls I wouldn't be playing the games.But since they use numbers which has a Scientific or Mathematical basis I can grasp that and apply my skills to handicapping the game.So I see what your getting at but your taking it too far because your trying to disprove something based on your interpretations of the concepts.I'm just trying to explain why and how we Lottery Players can use systems and strategies based on the theory of tracking and following PATTERNS AND TRENDS.Like I said if they decided to paint fruit or just used different colored balls that would throw me off PSYCHOLOGICALLY and I wouldn't be able to track the game the way I do now.Just like if my state decided to use Computer Generated numbers instead of Ping-Pong balls that would change things also but in a different way.You won't have the same kind of patterns or trends that you get from the Draw Machines probably not any which is what I have heard from players who's states switched from draw machines to computer generated numbers.They stopped playing the game because whatever method they used before wasn't working anymore with the new set-up.You really don't need to taske it that far because most gamblers are not trying to UNLOCK any SECRET LOTTERY code just HANDICAPP the game in all games of chance whether it's Cards,Bingo,Horses or Lottery there are ways to HANDICAPP the games which means to slightly manipulate the odds in order to increase your chances or eliminate as many variables as possible to increase your chances of winning.

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              Quote: Originally posted by reddog on September 16, 2003



              I still ponder the question; how can each ping pong ball weigh the same?  Unless they are pre-weighed prior to dropping them in the shutte.  Anybody with ideas??





              found on the net...


              LOTTOBALL TESTING

              The balls undergo a variety of tests to determine that they have similar physical characteristics. The goal, say lottery officials, is to ensure that every jackpot number is a truly random occurrence.

              The balls are first checked with a micrometer to determine that they are in fact 50 mm in diameter, as they should be. Next they are measured for resiliency (how well they bounce). This can be done using a measuring device known as a resiliometer, which drops a weight on the ball and measures how far away it is propelled, or by videotaping the balls as they are dropped and measuring the height of their bounce.

              The balls are then submerged in water, and their volume determined by how much liquid is displaced. The test subjects are even exposed to an x-ray examination to ensure that there are no impurities or cavities within their solid rubber spheres.

              Then once the mass of the balls is measured, they are ready for the machine. The balls are allowed to be within five per cent of variation for each test.


               

              Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.


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                VisionDude once again you take what I'm saying out of CONTEXT your SYSTEM of doing things is SIMPLE a monkey could do it.Just be patient and wait for a Higherauthority to decide the outcome of your buying quick-picks.And once again you do not need toshow me anything I don't want to wait 7 more years to see whether your Belief System works or not I'm quite sure it does to be Honest with you.And I'm not chasing Randomness I'm working with it there's a difference my friend and I'm definitley not fighting with you I'm just saying that your way is'nt the only way and that your so quick to put someones ideas and methods down when they are basically doing the same thing you are just in a different way.You buy quick-picks while I select my own numbers the only people chasing or Analysing randomness are the Programmers I'm not a Programmer.So don't worry about me just keep on doing what your doing and give advice to those that need.While I give advice to those that ask for it we are both going after thew same thing just using different approaches yoursis Faith-Religious based while mine is Analysis-Logic based.Both are good methods to use either one can and has won money for players.There's somehting you need to know I use to be like you 10 yrs ago but I learned many things that made me change the way I think especially when it comes to gambling but I can't explain it to you when you can't even understand what I'm trying to say you have GOD as your gambling partner and I have my brain and since GOD created my Brain I have just as GOOD a chance using my methods to win as you do.

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                  congradulations pick 4

                  your post said you won $500 wow.how did you pick it?

                  what game?

                  did you find it on the post?

                  your the first one I heard won anything winnings.

                  just wondering how???

                  green bucks to you

                   

                      luckycat        >>>>>>>    purr-purr--purrfect                           

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                    I am wondering since there are so many ...good computer, math people here...if someone could write a short program for a  CIRCLE WHEEL THAT CONTAINS ONLY 9 NUMBERS?  Why circle??  Each number within the circle gets to be the PB and as many reasonable combinations are covered so as to get the widest range of coverage without playing all of the  possible number combinations.

                    If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                    You never know when you will get another hit.


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                      Pick-3 and I select my own numbers,I've won 4 times in the Cash-3 Straight and 4 times boxed in Pick-4.I play every now and then but am currently working on a strategy that's more consistant.

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                        Any takers on the circle wheel?

                        If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                        You never know when you will get another hit.

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                          Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on September 16, 2003



                          you have GOD as your gambling partner




                          NOT TRUE...

                          let me set the record straight.  he "leads"  while i follow.

                          that means that i DO NOT use God for financial gain and won't allow for that mis-representation of God.  that is how i got started in here in the first place. someone said they could recite a special prayer and that "God" was obligated to let them win. i could not stand by while someone erroneusly raised the hope of others.  one of the things that God is NOT is our personal concierge.  we are "supposed" to serve him,  not the other way around. while some think that God is their "ticket",  i am NOT one of those people.  nor do i believe personally in false hope and even more than that the spreading of it to others.

                          there is only one reason that i am even buying (1) ticket and that leads me back to my statement ;                                  "he leads while i follow".

                           

                          myvisiondidntstartwithmenorwillitendwithme

                                      "i am .........."meant to"       

                          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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                            Again your taking what I wrote the wrong way and TOTALLY out of CONTEXT I know what you mean when you talk about your Vision okay? I never said you use GOD for FINANCIAL GAIN that's not your way or style "He LEADS while you FOLLOW" right? doesn't that mean the same as me saying he's your GAMBLING PARTNER? if not than let me CLARIFY my statement.What I meant was, by him being your Partner you follow him as he's your GUIDE to what may or may not be waiting for you concerning a LOTTERY WINDFALL whenever you buy your QUICK-PICKS, he's not your LUCKY CHARM or SECRET WEAPON against the LOTTERY.Ever heard the saying "GOD IS MY CO-PILOT"? I'm quite sure you have so doesn't that apply to you? if so then my earlier statement still stands if not then I apologise for you taking it the wrong way!!!!

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                              try the prayer of jabez.

                              love to nibble those micey feet.

                               

                                                           

                                 
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