Boy oh boy. I have been following this thread for the last few days absolutely biting my tongue to pieces. Let me first say that I know Arlene probably better than anyone.
I guess you could say I am one of the charter members of Lotto Magic, as I have been playing Arlene's picks long before there ever was anything called Lotto Magic. I probably love the numbers game as much as she does, and I have spent many, many sessions pouring over the numbers with her. The woman truly loves what she does and is very good at it. She has always had a heart of gold and is the type of person that will give you the proverbial shirt off her back if you really need it. So it is hard for me to sit here and watch her get bashed by a few that haven't a clue as to what they speak. I feel compelled to defend her as any you would want to defend somebody you have a love for.
A couple of things jumped out at me as I read through the posts in this thread. Somebody mentioned that it wreaked of big business I had to laugh at that one, as it is for the most part, a two person operation (Arlene and myself). The other was that Arlene doesn't exist and is probably a man. LOL I can also assure you that she is a female, and a very attractive one at that in her younger years. LOL I hope she never hears that I said that.
The other thing that really upsets me here is the comments (bordering on slander) that the Lottery Post owner Todd has made. Todd I am not quite sure of where you are coming from on all of this. Some of your comments are the most asinine things I have ever heard. There are two or three members that are using her system, and evidently winning money according to their posts. Yet you continue to insist that is has to be a scam and can't be legitimate and so forth because Arlene has never posted her predictions on your website. Are you also saying then that those posters are liars? Is your website the holy grail for lottery predictions or what? Somebody said it well earlier when they said something like what you get here is a bunch of people bouncing numbers around, and a bunch of excuses why they or others didn't play them. It always seems to be a "would've, should've, could've" sort of thing. If you want to get serious about a system Mr. Todd, then put it together. But be ready to put your money where your mouth is. I have been playing for years and I have never had the success that I have had with her work. I know for a fact that she plays her own numbers religiously. There is a member here in this forum that has posted Arlene's picks as if they were their own. That individual knows who they are. I guess the picks must be doing pretty well even by your righteous standards Todd, as this person is ranked VERY high on your predictors board, or whatever you call it.
The other item of discontent from Todd and a few others is that she would dare to charge for such a service. She reluctantly went public with all of this in January of this year. I say reluctantly because it was something that took alot of persuassion from family and friends such as myself. We all thought she would need something to do in her retirement. I agreed to help her with it by filling the publishing and administrative roles involved. We had no idea it would grow into what it did. I guarantee you money was not the motivation for doing so. It was her desire to possibly help others in their lottery quest and if she receives compensation for doing so, then she is planning to use it to help fund the college education of her grandchildren. I can also tell you that it has taken over her life. Looking back now it was probably bad advice to encourage her to take it public. At 62 she is retired and frankly was ready to take it easy. We thought this would be something should could do to keep her busy. She now spends about 6 hours a day answering emails and consulting with her members. Kind of sounds like a job to me. Is it not fair for her to be compensated for offering a service to somebody? I like to be paid for working, as that's the only reason I do it. I am sure most of you feel the same way.
The comment was also made that many people here might play somebody's picks, or possibly watch them to see if they are worth playing. Those people get discouraged if the picks don't hit every day and give it up. Well it seems to me that if someone has a small investment in something, might they not be a little more determined to stay with and give it a chance? I think so. We are talking about a sum of $47. You can hardly go to a movie and dinner anymore for fifty bucks. I also know for a fact that she has given away memberships, to people she felt didn't truly have the financial resources to join. She also cautioned them to spend no more than they could afford to lose and set them up on a plan that costs them no more than a few bucks a day to play.
Todd you are running a business here. I see ads littered everywhere. I am sure you are being compensated in some way for every ad that is here. Of course you are. I also see you have your little gift store setup as another stream of income. Where do i sign up for my Lottery Post BBQ apron? Are you not trying to turn a profit here with your website? Does that somehow cheapen what you do here? Does the fact that you are earning an income from this site mean it's a scam of some sort? You are running as business and you are trying to turn a profit. That's what businesses do as far as I understand it. So how does the fact that Arlene charges for what she does somehow make her less than above board? I would be a little bit more careful of how you represent yourself and your business. A few of the posts you made were over the line and definitely a good case for slander. I see that you have an Amazon Affiliate and have several books advertised on your site. Have you examined each and every one of those publications with the same scutiny in which you seem to obsessively give to the Lotto Magic program?
You have also requested that one of The Lotto Magic members distribute the material that is confidential to the members website. It clearly states that this is prohibited, and you are well aware of that. I wonder what your position would be if I solicited the members of your website here to break the rules of your users agreement. Wouldn't that be a very unprofessional thing for me to do?
Arlene is not choking anything down anybody's throat. Anybody that goes to her website has likely done so because they saw an ad somewhere. It's their free will. They read her introduction and make a decision as to whether they want to join her site or not. Again, that is free will. She offers as much proof as she can without giving away the farm. If someone wants to join based on that information, then they join, if not they don't. If they do join and are not happy, they may request a refund. How is that a fraud or a scam? The more I think about this the more upset I become with you Todd. This is exactly the sort of thing she wanted no part of from the beginning. I have printed out this thread and will be showing it to our attorney. As a side note Todd, Arlene has a son who is also a patent / copyright attorney. I think he may take a little extra interest in this one.
Here is a quote from Todd that was made on page 6 of this thread,
"You know what? I also have numbers that I keep private, and after the drawing I see how much I would win, and I'd be a millionaire by now if I played them all. What? You don't believe me? Why not? Because I didn't prove it on the LP board?"
Your board means nothing. If you really have the goods, take out wallet and play them. Well sir like your sidekick Maddog says. Money talks and b*llsh*t walks. I know Arlene believes in her work strongly enough to invest her money in what she does. I guess you don't have the courage of your own convictions when it comes to your picks. And as per your very own standards, how can we believe that you picked anything correctly since you didn't post them on your holy grail of a prediction board or make them public in any way? Does that make you a liar? That kind of makes it sound like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth to me? Incidently Arlene's picks have been in full view of her members (now over 1000 strong)since the first of this year. I'd say that is some pretty intense scutiny wouldn't you? Lotto Magic has been public for almost 11 months. If something wasn't above board, don't you think one of those 1000 members would have had something to say by now? Why does she need to post anything on your board? She has nothing to prove to you. Everything on her website is documentable to the people that decide to become a participant.
I'll tell you what bothers me the most about your comments Todd is that I am not aware of a single post in your forum that claims they were scammed by Arlene. Not a single one. Quite the contrary what I have read are a few members sharing with others the success they have had with her. So why all the negative comments from you? Have you bothered to contacted us with any questions, or is it just that you would rather perch yourself on your Lottery Post soap box and spew your inaccuracies, and uninformed opinions?
Can she pick the winner for you in your state for tomorrow guaranteed? Of course not. Nobody can do that. But what she does offer is a way to get serious about winning some money over the long haul. This is a quote she has used many times. "We are running a marathon and not a sprint". Her members are told how to take the slow and steady pace as they work through it. She has many many emails from people that have done very well with her, and made a lot of money. That is a documentable fact. There has been no scamming whatsoever, so you might want to back off of that until you have some proof. Slander is a very serious charge sir, and in my opinion you have definitely crossed that line.
Yes I have first hand knowledge of her business as her publisher. But I have first hand knowledge of her as a person because I am also her SON. (that's another reason why I know she is a female wiseguy :)
I doubt I will respond to any of this any further, we'll have to see what develops. If you or anybody else have questions about Arlene or her program, you can email me at email@example.com, or Arlene directly at firstname.lastname@example.org . By doing so you will get the straight facts and not a bunch of unfounded accusations.
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