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@martor54
Thanks for the info. This gives us some idea in general on how important those previous draw numbers are.
 
@jimjwright
Your explanation is fine. We're just pointing out different aspects of the same problem. Wheeling 7 numbers, as martor54 suggests, is fine, but I think your ROI prize scenarios would be compromised due to the fact that more predictions are created, unless the top tier prizes can be captured on a regular basis.
 
I do like the initial procedure we currently have since the prediction footprint is relatively small. And anyone would gladly accept a 5+BB in their list.  
 
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Hi everybody,

Thank you Chester for mentioning me. In fact, both draws, Draw A and Draw B, contain useful numbers. Here is the situation before Sat, 06 Feb 2010, if we consider the previous 2 draws (UK Main Lotto):

(previous 2 draws w/out Bonus - 12 numbers)

  1 main # repeated from the previous 2 draws           :      524   35.57%

  2 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      434   29.46%

  3 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      170   11.54%

  4 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :       43    2.92%

  5 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :        7    0.48%

  6 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :        1    0.07%


(previous 2 draws with Bonus - 14 numbers)

  1 main # repeated from the previous 2 draws           :      467   31.70%

  2 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      464   31.50%

  3 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      227   15.41%

  4 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :       84    5.70%

  5 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :       12    0.81%

  6 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :        2    0.14%

This is fairly significant as to the importance of the latest 2 draws especially if you compare it with with the previous summary posted where just one draw was considered.

On another site, I found a mathematical calculation relative to immediate history of the draws (lotto 6/49): each draw is made up of 3 numbers that came up in the last 6 draws before it, 2 numbers from draws 7 to 12, and 1 number from the 13th draw backwards. All this has a degree of confidence of over 90%. If we take into account the facts above, there is a 1 in 7 chance to have 3 main numbers in the last 12 main numbers or a 1 in 10 chance in the last 12 main + 2 bonuses. I'm wondering whether we are searching for 3-number matches within too many draws? I do not wish to lead anybody in the wrong direction, though. So, if this isn't useful, my apologies and please ignore it.

Best regards,

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    Hi everybody,

    Thank you Chester for mentioning me. In fact, both draws, Draw A and Draw B, contain useful numbers. Here is the situation before Sat, 06 Feb 2010, if we consider the previous 2 draws (UK Main Lotto):

    (previous 2 draws w/out Bonus - 12 numbers)

      1 main # repeated from the previous 2 draws           :      524   35.57%

      2 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      434   29.46%

      3 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      170   11.54%

      4 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :       43    2.92%

      5 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :        7    0.48%

      6 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :        1    0.07%


    (previous 2 draws with Bonus - 14 numbers)

      1 main # repeated from the previous 2 draws           :      467   31.70%

      2 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      464   31.50%

      3 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :      227   15.41%

      4 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :       84    5.70%

      5 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :       12    0.81%

      6 main #'s repeated from the previous 2 draws         :        2    0.14%

    This is fairly significant as to the importance of the latest 2 draws especially if you compare it with with the previous summary posted where just one draw was considered.

    On another site, I found a mathematical calculation relative to immediate history of the draws (lotto 6/49): each draw is made up of 3 numbers that came up in the last 6 draws before it, 2 numbers from draws 7 to 12, and 1 number from the 13th draw backwards. All this has a degree of confidence of over 90%. If we take into account the facts above, there is a 1 in 7 chance to have 3 main numbers in the last 12 main numbers or a 1 in 10 chance in the last 12 main + 2 bonuses. I'm wondering whether we are searching for 3-number matches within too many draws? I do not wish to lead anybody in the wrong direction, though. So, if this isn't useful, my apologies and please ignore it.

    Best regards,

    martor54

    Sorry, I got carried away. Please, read  ... 1 in 10 chances ...  and ... 1 in 7 chances ... where necessary. Thanks.

    martor54

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      Yes, we do have problems, these are what I see at the moment:

      • We do not have enough draws in our database to handle results which include numbers in the thirties and forties.  We just don't have enough matches to make predictions with.
      • As previously noted if the draws A and B include a common number then we do not generate any predictions using those numbers.  This will significantly reduce our chances to get greater than match5.
      • As previously noted we are throwing away link number, I don't know if this is significant or not.  You need to look at FinalPredictions.txt and look at link=xx.  If xx was a result number then that prediction should have used it.
      • I'm not sure using a database of past draws is right or wrong yet.  I have experimented with loop generated number and they perform poorly.  The past draw numbers perform better, but I don't know if we have enough draws.  I think we need about 10000 draws of the 7/49 style to really know.  The thing about using past draws is they indicate how the RNG works.  We need an RNG that mimics the actual draws to generate more draws.  I thought that the loop was the answer but testing with it so far proves otherwise.
      • Finally it looks like the UK Main Lotto draw is no longer a 6/49 game but is a 6/29 game based on the last draws.

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        Yes, we do have problems, these are what I see at the moment:

        • We do not have enough draws in our database to handle results which include numbers in the thirties and forties.  We just don't have enough matches to make predictions with.
        • As previously noted if the draws A and B include a common number then we do not generate any predictions using those numbers.  This will significantly reduce our chances to get greater than match5.
        • As previously noted we are throwing away link number, I don't know if this is significant or not.  You need to look at FinalPredictions.txt and look at link=xx.  If xx was a result number then that prediction should have used it.
        • I'm not sure using a database of past draws is right or wrong yet.  I have experimented with loop generated number and they perform poorly.  The past draw numbers perform better, but I don't know if we have enough draws.  I think we need about 10000 draws of the 7/49 style to really know.  The thing about using past draws is they indicate how the RNG works.  We need an RNG that mimics the actual draws to generate more draws.  I thought that the loop was the answer but testing with it so far proves otherwise.
        • Finally it looks like the UK Main Lotto draw is no longer a 6/49 game but is a 6/29 game based on the last draws.

        Jimmy

        I think you guys must be upsetting somebody...Wink

        Keep up the good work.

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          I think you guys must be upsetting somebody...Wink

          Keep up the good work.

          I guess we must have Newb

          Hello to all

          Whilst I am putting all my concentrations on the new theory to find an easier solution, I found this piece of information very interesting and I thought to tell you about it as I have no doubt in my mind this will add more pressure to the local operators whereas in recent weeks we tend to have a lot of repeated numbers in results especially in main lotto draw where numbers are below 30s!

          Here it is; you know how I say lotteries are linked one to another and triples are shifted side to side or lottery to lottery... so I did this test and believe you me this is a killer, money making scheme for even small syndicates!
          Well, let’s take the last Wed draws (lotto, thunder, daily, eurotelemillions) and combine them all in one large wheel
          03/02/2010, 11,03,12,28,21,20,31 --- Lotto
          03/02/2010, 18,34,05,17,24,11 ------Thunder
          03/02/2010, 08,12,05,10,14,02,21 --- Daily
          03/02/2010, 15,19,21,29,33,36,20 --- Eurotele

          11,03,12,28,21,20,31,18,34,05,17,24,08,10,14,02,15 ,19,29,33,36 = 21 unique numbers
          02,03,05,08,10,11,12,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,24,28,29 ,31,33,34,36 = Sorted, find match 7 for them = 123 match 7s in history of all UK draws!!

          Below is Sat lotto result
          06/02/2010, 22,12,03,29,17,15,05

          Out of 123 match sevens 6 lines will match 4 numbers (every set of 4 numbers has three wheels of 3 numbers) and 21 lines match 3s (or 39 match 3s if not counting match 4s) to Sat draw
          If you play pick 4s then you have to play the wheels for 123 lines which is 4,305 lines or rather £4,305 in money terms so how much you will win if you play pick 4s?
          Each pick 4s pays out £7,000!
          6 x £7,000 = £42,000
          £42,000 - £4,305 = £37,695 profit for a little investment!
          If you play pick 3s it will cost you the same money but you'll win 39 x £400 = £15,600 so you still pocket money BIG TIME!

          Now, watch the UK results how fast will turn around!
          I guess the END is near now, what do you think!

          Has anyone come up with any solution as yet that how we can predict match 6s with Jimmy’s program?

          Moses

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            I guess we must have Newb

            Hello to all

            Whilst I am putting all my concentrations on the new theory to find an easier solution, I found this piece of information very interesting and I thought to tell you about it as I have no doubt in my mind this will add more pressure to the local operators whereas in recent weeks we tend to have a lot of repeated numbers in results especially in main lotto draw where numbers are below 30s!

            Here it is; you know how I say lotteries are linked one to another and triples are shifted side to side or lottery to lottery... so I did this test and believe you me this is a killer, money making scheme for even small syndicates!
            Well, let’s take the last Wed draws (lotto, thunder, daily, eurotelemillions) and combine them all in one large wheel
            03/02/2010, 11,03,12,28,21,20,31 --- Lotto
            03/02/2010, 18,34,05,17,24,11 ------Thunder
            03/02/2010, 08,12,05,10,14,02,21 --- Daily
            03/02/2010, 15,19,21,29,33,36,20 --- Eurotele

            11,03,12,28,21,20,31,18,34,05,17,24,08,10,14,02,15 ,19,29,33,36 = 21 unique numbers
            02,03,05,08,10,11,12,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,24,28,29 ,31,33,34,36 = Sorted, find match 7 for them = 123 match 7s in history of all UK draws!!

            Below is Sat lotto result
            06/02/2010, 22,12,03,29,17,15,05

            Out of 123 match sevens 6 lines will match 4 numbers (every set of 4 numbers has three wheels of 3 numbers) and 21 lines match 3s (or 39 match 3s if not counting match 4s) to Sat draw
            If you play pick 4s then you have to play the wheels for 123 lines which is 4,305 lines or rather £4,305 in money terms so how much you will win if you play pick 4s?
            Each pick 4s pays out £7,000!
            6 x £7,000 = £42,000
            £42,000 - £4,305 = £37,695 profit for a little investment!
            If you play pick 3s it will cost you the same money but you'll win 39 x £400 = £15,600 so you still pocket money BIG TIME!

            Now, watch the UK results how fast will turn around!
            I guess the END is near now, what do you think!

            Has anyone come up with any solution as yet that how we can predict match 6s with Jimmy’s program?

            Moses

            I did the same test for match 6s instead of match 7 and I found 530 lines of match 6s to my 21 unique numbers! When I searched for Sat result after removing bonus ball within those matches there are;

            61 match 3s to Sat result

            07 match 4s to Sat result

            To play pick 3s or pick 4s will cost £18,550 (35 wheels) but how much we would have won?

            I think it would have been a very good return for the investment!

            Moses

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              I guess we must have Newb

              Hello to all

              Whilst I am putting all my concentrations on the new theory to find an easier solution, I found this piece of information very interesting and I thought to tell you about it as I have no doubt in my mind this will add more pressure to the local operators whereas in recent weeks we tend to have a lot of repeated numbers in results especially in main lotto draw where numbers are below 30s!

              Here it is; you know how I say lotteries are linked one to another and triples are shifted side to side or lottery to lottery... so I did this test and believe you me this is a killer, money making scheme for even small syndicates!
              Well, let’s take the last Wed draws (lotto, thunder, daily, eurotelemillions) and combine them all in one large wheel
              03/02/2010, 11,03,12,28,21,20,31 --- Lotto
              03/02/2010, 18,34,05,17,24,11 ------Thunder
              03/02/2010, 08,12,05,10,14,02,21 --- Daily
              03/02/2010, 15,19,21,29,33,36,20 --- Eurotele

              11,03,12,28,21,20,31,18,34,05,17,24,08,10,14,02,15 ,19,29,33,36 = 21 unique numbers
              02,03,05,08,10,11,12,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,24,28,29 ,31,33,34,36 = Sorted, find match 7 for them = 123 match 7s in history of all UK draws!!

              Below is Sat lotto result
              06/02/2010, 22,12,03,29,17,15,05

              Out of 123 match sevens 6 lines will match 4 numbers (every set of 4 numbers has three wheels of 3 numbers) and 21 lines match 3s (or 39 match 3s if not counting match 4s) to Sat draw
              If you play pick 4s then you have to play the wheels for 123 lines which is 4,305 lines or rather £4,305 in money terms so how much you will win if you play pick 4s?
              Each pick 4s pays out £7,000!
              6 x £7,000 = £42,000
              £42,000 - £4,305 = £37,695 profit for a little investment!
              If you play pick 3s it will cost you the same money but you'll win 39 x £400 = £15,600 so you still pocket money BIG TIME!

              Now, watch the UK results how fast will turn around!
              I guess the END is near now, what do you think!

              Has anyone come up with any solution as yet that how we can predict match 6s with Jimmy’s program?

              Moses

              Hi moses pleased to hear you are making further progress, and out to give Camelot a run for the money, unfortunately I could not use Jims program as I am using a Power Mac, so have been unable to look at anything that may be going on, so I am unable to put any input, but I think martor54 will have some, he never fails to put info forward.

              Good luck and Regards,

              billybouy..

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                Yes, we do have problems, these are what I see at the moment:

                • We do not have enough draws in our database to handle results which include numbers in the thirties and forties.  We just don't have enough matches to make predictions with.
                • As previously noted if the draws A and B include a common number then we do not generate any predictions using those numbers.  This will significantly reduce our chances to get greater than match5.
                • As previously noted we are throwing away link number, I don't know if this is significant or not.  You need to look at FinalPredictions.txt and look at link=xx.  If xx was a result number then that prediction should have used it.
                • I'm not sure using a database of past draws is right or wrong yet.  I have experimented with loop generated number and they perform poorly.  The past draw numbers perform better, but I don't know if we have enough draws.  I think we need about 10000 draws of the 7/49 style to really know.  The thing about using past draws is they indicate how the RNG works.  We need an RNG that mimics the actual draws to generate more draws.  I thought that the loop was the answer but testing with it so far proves otherwise.
                • Finally it looks like the UK Main Lotto draw is no longer a 6/49 game but is a 6/29 game based on the last draws.

                Jimmy

                Hello Jimmy and all

                I have been trying to find out where we’re going wrong and this is my conclusion for the time being;

                I started to do some back testing in order to reduce the number of predicted lines so I started strictly UK lotto results to find the positive links between the draws from this point, 

                23/12/2009,18,15,32,36,37,26,22 = 19 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                26/12/2009,08,25,36,23,02,42,30 = 23 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                30/12/2009,35,34,29,27,05,14,04 = 42 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                02/01/2010,43,30,29,26,47,42,18 = 12 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                06/01/2010,49,04,18,45,43,16,23 = 21 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                09/01/2010,24,33,34,48,37,20,25 = 17 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                13/01/2010,21,16,06,43,14,08,19 = 70 M4s in all results, 9 line has match 3 to new draw

                16/01/2010,14,42,10,27,07,04,25 = 90 M4s in all results, 2 line has match 3 to new draw

                20/01/2010,16,18,17,27,28,02,43 = 41 M4s in all results, 5 line has match 3 to new draw

                23/01/2010,16,19,07,03,08,30,09 = 108 M4s in all results, 12 line has match 3 to new draw

                27/01/2010,27,13,01,04,07,11,12 = 173 M4s in all results,15 line has match 3 to new draw

                30/01/2010,02,04,19,40,23,03,22 = 77 M4s in all results, 3 line has match 3 to new draw

                03/02/2010,11,03,12,28,21,20,31 = 55 M4s in all results, 9 line has match 3 to new draw

                06/02/2010,22,12,03,29,17,15,05 = 81 M4s in all results, ? How many match 3 to new draw

                Additional information

                The apparent link between the results are very obvious if not by match 4s then definitely by match 3s

                Some of the above lines which are coloured in red do take match 4s to next draw too!

                If I do the same test but search for match 3s then obviously the number of matches will increase substantially which this will increase the possibilities for match 3s and 4s to the new result!

                Where I think we’re going wrong as I think we are one step behind! If I take the latest result and search for match 4s 

                06/02/2010,22,12,03,29,17,15,05 = 81 M4s in all results, ? How many match 3 to new draw

                All matches found for this draw should be in file A as we know half of the matches for the new draw will come from this section!

                Now we have to create file B but using file A!

                We have to take all 81 matches one by one and do the match 4 (3s) search and put the result in file B, now we can zip up the two files, 81 results against 81 x ?match 4s (3s)!

                In reality we have to produce advanced match 3s for two future draws before we can combine the draws!

                As the tests above proves it is almost guaranteed that tonight (Wed) result will take match 3s and possible match 4s to last Sat draw (example above) and when the next Sat draw (13/02/10) appears it is also guaranteed that there would be some match 3s and 4s to tonight’s result! This is an advanced, true, and calculated projection which has never failed before so it is safe to assume that it won’t fail in future either but only time can tell or agree or disagree with this!

                It would be good if we had the choice to select match 3s or match 4s in program so I can continue to take this forward! Can you guys understand what I am on about? 

                Cheers Jimmy 

                Moses

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                  Hi Moses

                  That sounds like a great new way of interpreting the draw results.  I have tested out the first part using our limited local history and got the following:

                  Draw 949 06,10,11,21,41,43,49 = 7 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                  Draw 950 10,11,24,29,33,44,47 = 22 M4s in all results, 4 lines has match 3 to new draw, 1 line has match 5 to new draw

                  Draw 951 05,11,17,24,42,43,47 = 16 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                  Draw 952 01,10,26,29,31,33,49 = 14 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                  Draw 953 03,06,16,29,31,37,48 = 26 M4s in all results, 0 match 3 to new draw

                  Draw 954 12,18,19,22,41,45,47 = 15 MA4s in all results

                  Unfortunately when trying the second part of your idea I kept on crashing Jimmy's software but I will carry on trying to see what I get.

                  It would be great if Jimmy could add the option of selecting a File A and a File B and running the match and deduplication on them.

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                    Hi Moses

                    That sounds like a great new way of interpreting the draw results.  I have tested out the first part using our limited local history and got the following:

                    Draw 949 06,10,11,21,41,43,49 = 7 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                    Draw 950 10,11,24,29,33,44,47 = 22 M4s in all results, 4 lines has match 3 to new draw, 1 line has match 5 to new draw

                    Draw 951 05,11,17,24,42,43,47 = 16 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                    Draw 952 01,10,26,29,31,33,49 = 14 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                    Draw 953 03,06,16,29,31,37,48 = 26 M4s in all results, 0 match 3 to new draw

                    Draw 954 12,18,19,22,41,45,47 = 15 MA4s in all results

                    Unfortunately when trying the second part of your idea I kept on crashing Jimmy's software but I will carry on trying to see what I get.

                    It would be great if Jimmy could add the option of selecting a File A and a File B and running the match and deduplication on them.

                    Hi gunnatry

                    If you set the program to find match3s then there will be lots of matches to new draw, this is one of the reasons that I like the program to give us the choice of search. This will also allow us to search 3 from file A with match 4s from file B (what Chester was talking about match 7s) or the reverse!

                    We'll see what happens.

                    Moses

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                      Hi Moses, Jimmy

                      Could you please tell me if Jimmy has updated his software as I'm trying to work with match 4s manually but would appreciate any assistance from his software.

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                        Hi Moses, Jimmy

                        Could you please tell me if Jimmy has updated his software as I'm trying to work with match 4s manually but would appreciate any assistance from his software.

                        Regards

                        Hello gunnatry

                        I am sitting and waiting just like you! I expected some feedback from some members but nothing at all which is very strange but I guess I have to wait still!

                        Moses

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                          Sorry,

                          I have been in Memphis, TN at a customer site working for the last two weeks, just got home last night.  I will see if I can add what you want this weekend.  I will probably have some questions tomorrow.

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                            Hello Jimmy and all

                            I have been trying to find out where we’re going wrong and this is my conclusion for the time being;

                            I started to do some back testing in order to reduce the number of predicted lines so I started strictly UK lotto results to find the positive links between the draws from this point, 

                            23/12/2009,18,15,32,36,37,26,22 = 19 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                            26/12/2009,08,25,36,23,02,42,30 = 23 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                            30/12/2009,35,34,29,27,05,14,04 = 42 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                            02/01/2010,43,30,29,26,47,42,18 = 12 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                            06/01/2010,49,04,18,45,43,16,23 = 21 M4s in all results, 1 line has match 3 to new draw

                            09/01/2010,24,33,34,48,37,20,25 = 17 M4s in all results, 0 line has match 3 to new draw

                            13/01/2010,21,16,06,43,14,08,19 = 70 M4s in all results, 9 line has match 3 to new draw

                            16/01/2010,14,42,10,27,07,04,25 = 90 M4s in all results, 2 line has match 3 to new draw

                            20/01/2010,16,18,17,27,28,02,43 = 41 M4s in all results, 5 line has match 3 to new draw

                            23/01/2010,16,19,07,03,08,30,09 = 108 M4s in all results, 12 line has match 3 to new draw

                            27/01/2010,27,13,01,04,07,11,12 = 173 M4s in all results,15 line has match 3 to new draw

                            30/01/2010,02,04,19,40,23,03,22 = 77 M4s in all results, 3 line has match 3 to new draw

                            03/02/2010,11,03,12,28,21,20,31 = 55 M4s in all results, 9 line has match 3 to new draw

                            06/02/2010,22,12,03,29,17,15,05 = 81 M4s in all results, ? How many match 3 to new draw

                            Additional information

                            The apparent link between the results are very obvious if not by match 4s then definitely by match 3s

                            Some of the above lines which are coloured in red do take match 4s to next draw too!

                            If I do the same test but search for match 3s then obviously the number of matches will increase substantially which this will increase the possibilities for match 3s and 4s to the new result!

                            Where I think we’re going wrong as I think we are one step behind! If I take the latest result and search for match 4s 

                            06/02/2010,22,12,03,29,17,15,05 = 81 M4s in all results, ? How many match 3 to new draw

                            All matches found for this draw should be in file A as we know half of the matches for the new draw will come from this section!

                            Now we have to create file B but using file A!

                            We have to take all 81 matches one by one and do the match 4 (3s) search and put the result in file B, now we can zip up the two files, 81 results against 81 x ?match 4s (3s)!

                            In reality we have to produce advanced match 3s for two future draws before we can combine the draws!

                            As the tests above proves it is almost guaranteed that tonight (Wed) result will take match 3s and possible match 4s to last Sat draw (example above) and when the next Sat draw (13/02/10) appears it is also guaranteed that there would be some match 3s and 4s to tonight’s result! This is an advanced, true, and calculated projection which has never failed before so it is safe to assume that it won’t fail in future either but only time can tell or agree or disagree with this!

                            It would be good if we had the choice to select match 3s or match 4s in program so I can continue to take this forward! Can you guys understand what I am on about? 

                            Cheers Jimmy 

                            Moses

                            Hello,

                            In reading Mo's post, I am wondering about the search procedure.

                            I would agree that the initial search of the most recent draw (to create File A) would need a full search of the database. But I think partial searches are needed to create File B. This might mean, if not already, that your database may need to be sorted by date.  Why?

                            My thinking is that draws selected in File A can only be searched up to the date that that particular line was drawn. Having 6-7 different lotteries in a file, sorting by date will give you the correct draws to search.

                            So if a selected line in File A was drawn on 01/22/1998, then your search for matches would only go up to (and including) lottery draws which occurred on or before 01/22/1998 in the database.

                            I might be in error as to what Mo is thinking, but this may reduce the number of matches in File B.

                             

                            CD

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                              Sorry,

                              I have been in Memphis, TN at a customer site working for the last two weeks, just got home last night.  I will see if I can add what you want this weekend.  I will probably have some questions tomorrow.

                              Jimmy

                              Hello everybody

                              I think I found the problem that why we don’t tend to create more of match 5s+ BB or indeed match 6 for the jackpot with Jimmy’s program! The problem is not in the program but it is in the technical information!

                              To find this problem I had to run lots of tests and here it is;

                              I chose three random on row results from UK lotto draws a ) b ) c ) from (a) and (b) I tried to produce c (whilst I already had the result) but it did not work with various attempts so I searched for wheel 3s and 4s for draw c so I could see which two files I can combine to reproduce C, the files that I thought by joining them would create draw c but still didn’t work, so the problem is much deeper than I originally thought! I give you this example to explain why! If I select two files A and B, in file A I have

                              A – B – C1 – 2 – 3

                              And in file (B) I have;

                              4 – 5 – 6D – E – F

                              ------- File A ------------------&------------ File B

                              A – B – C1 – 2 – 3 -----&----- 4 – 5 – 6D – E – F

                              By zipping up these two files I am suppose to create 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 5 – 6 in my prediction lines hopping that A – B – C – D – E – F the outer shell will take the necessary matches and will be discarded from the calculation so I am only left with the actual numbers, the theory is almost true but not 100%, why?

                              When I take a closer look in all match 3s for A – B – C1 – 2 – 3 in file (A) I will have the following wheels

                              A – B – 1

                              A – C – 2

                              B – C – 3

                              Or

                              A – 1 – 2

                              C – 2 – 3

                              But I can never find full 1 – 2 – 3 in one wheel, this scenario is the same in the other file (B) so this is why we cannot produce match 5+ or even match 6s! This means that after the two files are linked there is still a shortage of one or more number which is replaced by letters (A,B,C) to make it perfect link or create match 6s and also means this situation had already been studied by the organisers which they had to rectify it so the wheels are very carefully selected!

                              ..So, Jimmy please hold on with updating the program until we find some solutions!

                              I have some idea which I think it will work but first I need to test it and then I will email it to Jimmy as soon as I feel comfortable with it that it will work! In the meantime if anybody else can see this problem and has some idea please disclose it but only by PM!

                              Moses

                                 
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