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Jan 16, 2010, 12:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Moses on Jan 16, 2010
Lessons to be learned

How can the operators such as Camelot defeat the purpose of my proposed theory?

One way is to create CONFUSIONS!

If we take a look at the last Wed lotto result below;

13/01/2010, 21,16,06,43,14,08,19

There is one number over 27 (UK daily 7/27 game with nearly 2000 draws) which is 43 and six numbers (21,16,06,14,08,19) within daily game range so what does this mean and how does this affect the match 3s for Wed lotto draw?

For the start, when I search for match 3s for the Wed draw and because of low key numbers there are over 500 match 3s within UK all old results which in money terms means it will cost a lot more than initially estimated or proposed!

Well, this was the first reaction by operator which they can make it financially not feasible to follow this theory or indeed as we call it the “BAD NEWS”.

But the good news is for tonight’s result there is going to be mega match 3s inside 500 matches which it will increase the chance to hit the jackpot perhaps more than once and the same for other prizes but it will definitely cost more to play the game!

The other lesson that I can learn from it is to compare the Wed lotto result to other games such as Daily game and Thunder Ball game!

13/01/2010, 25,05,04,24,18,19,11 --- Daily result (number 19 matches to lotto)

13/01/2010, 21,28,31,06,30,11 ------- Thunder result (21 and 06 matches to lotto)

First we look for all match 3s for daily game

13/01/2010, 25,05,04,24,18,19,11

There are over 750 match 3s within the UK all old results for this daily draw, if I put all these matches in one file and put the lotto result as seed search then I would get over 250 x m2s, 55 x m3s, 6 x m4s, what makes all these possible? That number 19 which is shared between the two draws! ..So if they wish to take match 3 from daily file which is not in lotto they can do this switch very easily by using one match 3 from daily draw which contains number 19 the link number!

Second we do the same test for Thunder ball which matches two numbers to lotto (21,06)

13/01/2010, 21,28,31,06,30,11

Because there are only three numbers below 27 (21,06,11) then naturally there are a lot lesser match 3s for the Thunder game proximately 190 match 3s+ found for this result!

Again I place these matches in separate file and put lotto result as seed search (the same practice as above) then I found, 64 x m2s, 28 x m3s, 9 x m4s and finally 1 x m5s for lotto result inside the Thunder ball matches!!! What makes this situation possible? The two numbers 21,06 which shared to lotto result!

So, the lesson I can learn from it is the shared numbers between the results are the bridges for switching or for the sharp exits for the operators as I have showed you in two posts ago that finding match 3 inside lotto was none existed but they could be found in other games such as Daily or Thunder ball or Eurotelemillions!

Now I know what these repeated numbers in different games mean!

I wonder if the operators such as Camelot can smell what I am cooking for them!

Because of the number of match 3s for last Wed draw and the size of it I won't post them as it takes lots of space!

Thanks Flex one point is better that nothing

Moses

You are welcome, moses. I actually wanted to give you 0 stars but too bad that option doesn't exist. I am sure world wide lottery organisers are going to feel very threaten by your "global lottery solution" *burp* ...
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Jan 16, 2010, 12:34 pm

I think we should give Moses a chance to prove how effective his "solution" really is instead of the usual bootstrapping he is doing with past results, so how about a little competition, Moses? Pick a UK lottery of your choice and I'll pit my full spectrum picks against your "solution" and see within a month who won the most....game?
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Jan 16, 2010, 12:44 pm

BTW Moses, the following are your claims over at lotto649.ws forum:

1. All the lottery forums were taking about me. My website was amongst the top 100 before they closed it down!

2. Every time I put information on net I am adding new lottery in UK, they just added a new daily draw called eurotelemillions!

3. Rather than give you the 6 jackpot winning numbers I actually sent you a golden tray with cash deposit on it, when you receive it be careful to open it as it could be still hot!

4. Here are 92 sets of universal sequences for any lottery any time any place!

5. I sent the exact information to lottery commission and Camelot removed all the drawn order from their website!

6. The point from drawn order is that, it makes the prediction far too easy for those who play the larger sums or syndicate!

7. Based on several tests I proved that my theory will work for every single draw guaranteeing the 5 plus win if not jackpot!

8. I am holding the UK records for the number of times that I won (over 10,000 time) including 18 times 5 numbers but they deny me the jackpot!

9. I have been on UK front pages of news paper as "the man who cracked the lottrey"

Don't you think it's about time you back it up?
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Jan 17, 2010, 7:33 am

Below is UK Sat lotto result ---------------- (compare to Wed draw)

16/01/2010, 04,07,10,14,27,42—25 ---- 13/01/2010, 06,08,14,16,21,43 --- 19

Again the same scenario as Wed draw happened for last night UK lotto result, one number above 27 this time number 42 and 6 numbers below 04,07,10,27,25 which is a BAD NEWS

But the good news was there are over 173 x match 2s, 56 x match 3s and 3 x match 4s and no match 5s! What made it possible was the link or the shared number (14) between the two draws!

I did another further test for two draw ago Sat 09/01/2010, 24,33,34,48,37,20-- 25

The Bonus Ball (25) shared in both draws which created the possibility of 45 x m2s, 13 x m3s and also 1 x m4 in two draws ago file!

For this Sat draw there are 560 match 3s exist in history of UK all results which I am expecting the same situation applies again but the cost of the play the game from 6/7k had increased to 500 x 500 = 25000k

Anybody has any thoughts on this or perhaps some idea to reduce the lines by proposing some kind of filtering system?

Moses
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Jan 18, 2010, 6:10 am

Quote: Originally posted by Moses on Jan 17, 2010
Below is UK Sat lotto result ---------------- (compare to Wed draw)

16/01/2010, 04,07,10,14,27,42—25 ---- 13/01/2010, 06,08,14,16,21,43 --- 19

Again the same scenario as Wed draw happened for last night UK lotto result, one number above 27 this time number 42 and 6 numbers below 04,07,10,27,25 which is a BAD NEWS

But the good news was there are over 173 x match 2s, 56 x match 3s and 3 x match 4s and no match 5s! What made it possible was the link or the shared number (14) between the two draws!

I did another further test for two draw ago Sat 09/01/2010, 24,33,34,48,37,20-- 25

The Bonus Ball (25) shared in both draws which created the possibility of 45 x m2s, 13 x m3s and also 1 x m4 in two draws ago file!

For this Sat draw there are 560 match 3s exist in history of UK all results which I am expecting the same situation applies again but the cost of the play the game from 6/7k had increased to 500 x 500 = 25000k

Anybody has any thoughts on this or perhaps some idea to reduce the lines by proposing some kind of filtering system?

Moses

There are over 750 match 3s within the UK all old results for this daily draw, if I put all these matches in one file and put the lotto result as seed search then I would get over 250 x m2s, 55 x m3s, 6 x m4s, what makes all these possible? That number 19 which is shared between the two draws! ..So if they wish to take match 3 from daily file which is not in lotto they can do this switch very easily by using one match 3 from daily draw which contains number 19 the link number!

I appreciate your observation of number 19.Would you explain to me why only number 19 is shared twice?

Nan in wiki means not a number. it sounds like 19. My name is Hans,doesnt that sound like ants?

Founder of Ranandom system - strive to predict jackpots!
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Jan 18, 2010, 8:51 am

Quote: Originally posted by Hans on Jan 18, 2010
There are over 750 match 3s within the UK all old results for this daily draw, if I put all these matches in one file and put the lotto result as seed search then I would get over 250 x m2s, 55 x m3s, 6 x m4s, what makes all these possible? That number 19 which is shared between the two draws! ..So if they wish to take match 3 from daily file which is not in lotto they can do this switch very easily by using one match 3 from daily draw which contains number 19 the link number!

I appreciate your observation of number 19.Would you explain to me why only number 19 is shared twice?

Nan in wiki means not a number. it sounds like 19. My name is Hans,doesnt that sound like ants?

Hello Hans

I think, you read one post and miss the other! In your post above you have highlighted UK result for Sat 16/01/2010 but if you go and read the post for Wed the 13/01/2010 lotto result and look below it where the Daily draw result is published then you see there is number 19 is repeated twice or shared in both draws lotto and daily result

13/01/2010, 21,16,06,43,14,08,19

There is one number over 27 (UK daily 7/27 game with nearly 2000 draws) which is 43 and six numbers (21,16,06,14,08,19) within daily game range so what does this mean and how does this affect the match 3s for Wed lotto draw?

For the start, when I search for match 3s for the Wed draw and because of low key numbers there are over 500 match 3s within UK all old results which in money terms means it will cost a lot more than initially estimated or proposed!

Well, this was the first reaction by operator which they can make it financially not feasible to follow this theory or indeed as we call it the “BAD NEWS”.

But the good news is for tonight’s result there is going to be mega match 3s inside 500 matches which it will increase the chance to hit the jackpot perhaps more than once and the same for other prizes but it will definitely cost more to play the game!

The other lesson that I can learn from it is to compare the Wed lotto result to other games such as Daily game and Thunder Ball game!

13/01/2010, 25,05,04,24,18,19,11 --- Daily result (number 19 matches to lotto)
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Jan 18, 2010, 9:21 am

Quote: Originally posted by Moses on Jan 18, 2010
Hello Hans

I think, you read one post and miss the other! In your post above you have highlighted UK result for Sat 16/01/2010 but if you go and read the post for Wed the 13/01/2010 lotto result and look below it where the Daily draw result is published then you see there is number 19 is repeated twice or shared in both draws lotto and daily result

13/01/2010, 21,16,06,43,14,08,19

There is one number over 27 (UK daily 7/27 game with nearly 2000 draws) which is 43 and six numbers (21,16,06,14,08,19) within daily game range so what does this mean and how does this affect the match 3s for Wed lotto draw?

For the start, when I search for match 3s for the Wed draw and because of low key numbers there are over 500 match 3s within UK all old results which in money terms means it will cost a lot more than initially estimated or proposed!

Well, this was the first reaction by operator which they can make it financially not feasible to follow this theory or indeed as we call it the “BAD NEWS”.

But the good news is for tonight’s result there is going to be mega match 3s inside 500 matches which it will increase the chance to hit the jackpot perhaps more than once and the same for other prizes but it will definitely cost more to play the game!

The other lesson that I can learn from it is to compare the Wed lotto result to other games such as Daily game and Thunder Ball game!

13/01/2010, 25,05,04,24,18,19,11 --- Daily result (number 19 matches to lotto)

sure it repeats.i was spiritually reborn yesterday on 16th.And on 13th,I was just waking up.

I am a bit tired,I will rest for a while. Thanks for finding 19. Good luck.

Nan

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Quote: Originally posted by Moses on Jan 17, 2010
Below is UK Sat lotto result ---------------- (compare to Wed draw)

16/01/2010, 04,07,10,14,27,42—25 ---- 13/01/2010, 06,08,14,16,21,43 --- 19

Again the same scenario as Wed draw happened for last night UK lotto result, one number above 27 this time number 42 and 6 numbers below 04,07,10,27,25 which is a BAD NEWS

But the good news was there are over 173 x match 2s, 56 x match 3s and 3 x match 4s and no match 5s! What made it possible was the link or the shared number (14) between the two draws!

I did another further test for two draw ago Sat 09/01/2010, 24,33,34,48,37,20-- 25

The Bonus Ball (25) shared in both draws which created the possibility of 45 x m2s, 13 x m3s and also 1 x m4 in two draws ago file!

For this Sat draw there are 560 match 3s exist in history of UK all results which I am expecting the same situation applies again but the cost of the play the game from 6/7k had increased to 500 x 500 = 25000k

Anybody has any thoughts on this or perhaps some idea to reduce the lines by proposing some kind of filtering system?

Moses

Forthis Sat draw there are 560 match 3s exist in history of UK all resultswhich I am expecting the same situation applies again but the cost ofthe play the game from 6/7k had increased to 500 x 500 = 25000k

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It could cost you more since each 7 number lotto line has 35 combos of 3 and 4 matches.

Also, you'll need to remove the duplicates and lines which do not form a 6 number line.

So Numlines = (S(35*500) * W(35*500)) - (Dups + unformed)

CD
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Quote: Originally posted by ChetserDennis on Jan 18, 2010
Forthis Sat draw there are 560 match 3s exist in history of UK all resultswhich I am expecting the same situation applies again but the cost ofthe play the game from 6/7k had increased to 500 x 500 = 25000k

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It could cost you more since each 7 number lotto line has 35 combos of 3 and 4 matches.

Also, you'll need to remove the duplicates and lines which do not form a 6 number line.

So Numlines = (S(35*500) * W(35*500)) - (Dups + unformed)

CD

Hello Chester Dennis

I used to read your post with some interest some years back and always thought your comment are through logic so I appreciate your comment which is based on logic again and yes you are correct too!I was going to reply to GameBelgium on other forum with regard to filtering system which it will rectify the problem for the seventh number! I think I have also mentioned it as well as showed it in my example but not too sure if I made myself understood!

There are two steps that I can see now which we can apply without damaging the accuracy of the data or predictions, let’s say there are two files contain match 3s one file for Wed draw (A) and one file for Sat draw (B)

The step one is to remove all duplicated triples from each file so if we have file A with 500 match 3s so by removing all duplicate triples that would perhaps reduce to 450! This will be the same case for file B to remove all duplicates!

From file A you take the very top and remaining three numbers and put it as seed search inside file B! One of these three numbers must and I mean MUST match to the remaining 4 numbers in file B! So, out of 500 results in file B perhaps 70 to 100 results will have one number the same and the rest do not match up! The number which is shared in both file (the top line of file A with the entire 70/100 lines of file B) is the link number and you can have 70to 100 lines of 6 numbers as reserve or possible prediction! So for the first or the top result of file A you would only have 100 candidates or possible prediction of 6 numbers out of 500!

Next is the second line of file A as seed which has to be analysed with file B in the same manor!

Therefore not all 500 results from one file will match up to all 500 another as there has to be one number link between the two draws as my example shows in other page! This theory has to be computrised to do all the combining and then start thinking about next step! Right now the theory looks practical as it compared against results but we need a program to approve or disapprove the theory!

1464,--49,04,18,45,43,16,23,-4 – last Wed’s draw

1468,--34,43,20,24,18,49,16,-4

1564,--41,18,49,16,48,32,03,-3

1813,--15,16,49,17,18,32,43,-4 – example, take these three from this file

3252,--32,26,16,18,02,14,49,-3

5267,--10,18,25,41,43,49,11,-3

5496,--43,18,16,30,19,45,32,-3

5540,--49,43,39,33,04,16,03,-3

5622,--16,18,29,35,37,49,04,-3

Second file match 3 plus links (34,20,24) + (44,13,48 are the links) from Sat draws

There are 92 match 3s found for these lots!

0060,--04,13,02,03,42,44,24,-3

0083,--47,25,18,44,13,46,34,-3

0088,--14,44,06,25,34,20,45,-3

0109,--24,12,33,42,47,34,44,-3

0116,--12,48,36,20,28,16,34,-3

0146,--09,02,13,18,27,48,24,-3

0196,--24,34,05,48,40,37,33,-3

0238,--33,24,19,38,48,05,20,-3

0277,--27,48,46,44,05,34,49,-3

0300,--31,32,13,25,24,44,43,-3 with these four from this file

0315,--03,18,49,13,24,34,33,-3

0331,--02,03,34,27,13,48,41,-3

0360,--24,20,11,28,48,35,33,-3

0361,--46,48,10,08,12,34,20,-3

0542,--07,48,20,14,24,38,17,-3

0573,--11,31,24,49,34,18,48,-3

0625,--07,34,48,46,43,28,20,-3

0639,--13,36,02,20,40,37,34,-3

0642,--37,24,36,10,20,44,01,-3

0671,--34,44,40,19,30,26,13,-3

0688,--24,44,26,29,28,34,45,-3

0746,--32,04,20,48,49,44,27,-3 or with these four from here

0765,--13,31,44,41,33,24,05,-3

0855,--44,47,24,40,48,38,23,-3

0879,--15,18,34,24,11,44,28,-3

0987,--11,48,34,13,44,26,02,-4

1055,--11,13,05,17,48,44,25,-3 or with these four from here

1068,--44,22,34,10,24,07,18,-3

1097,--34,12,11,44,39,48,21,-3

1122,--16,27,03,44,02,48,24,-3

1144,--04,12,14,48,20,49,24,-3

1196,--40,24,19,48,30,13,31,-3

1334,--42,48,24,25,09,13,05,-3

1378,--21,31,06,20,09,34,48,-3

1394,--10,08,01,34,20,13,28,-3

1431,--18,24,20,43,30,44,47,-3

1432,--34,44,23,48,46,18,06,-3

1458,--20,44,35,02,34,40,49,-3

1465,--24,33,34,48,37,20,25,-4

1468,--34,43,20,24,18,49,16,-3

1479,--42,16,14,13,20,34,10,-3

1528,--34,49,24,26,13,03,48,-4

1591,--44,11,48,03,04,24,01,-3

1663,--14,48,05,21,20,44,28,-3

1691,--34,48,49,07,11,17,20,-3

1706,--44,13,15,49,41,37,24,-3 or with these four from here

Moses
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Jan 18, 2010, 11:27 pm

Hi Mo,

Yes, it's been awhile. Been dealing with health issues for the past 7 years, so I've been on and off this lotto topic when I had some time available. Nice to see you're still around.

I understand what you're saying.

I would think you could probably has all unique 4 number sets in Sat's file, and all unique 3 number sets in Wed's file, then match them together with one link number.

For example,

SAT File WED File

01 02 03 04 01 11 12 = Match ( 01 02 03 04 11 12)

01 02 03 04 01 02 12 = No Match

01 02 03 04 06 08 09 = No Match

Etc...

Time to get out my old programming books.....

CD
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Quote: Originally posted by ChetserDennis on Jan 18, 2010
Hi Mo,

Yes, it's been awhile. Been dealing with health issues for the past 7 years, so I've been on and off this lotto topic when I had some time available. Nice to see you're still around.

I understand what you're saying.

I would think you could probably has all unique 4 number sets in Sat's file, and all unique 3 number sets in Wed's file, then match them together with one link number.

For example,

SAT File WED File

01 02 03 04 01 11 12 = Match ( 01 02 03 04 11 12)

01 02 03 04 01 02 12 = No Match

01 02 03 04 06 08 09 = No Match

Etc...

Time to get out my old programming books.....

CD

Hello Chester

I hope youe health is 100% now and sort of thought you would dust off your books and get them off the shelf! I know there are few guys with the power of writing codes and they will attempt this but it is not guaranteed that they will give us any feed back but good luck to you anyways!

Moses
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Quote: Originally posted by Moses on Jan 19, 2010
Hello Chester

I hope youe health is 100% now and sort of thought you would dust off your books and get them off the shelf! I know there are few guys with the power of writing codes and they will attempt this but it is not guaranteed that they will give us any feed back but good luck to you anyways!

Moses

Yes you are very near to finding the answer, just keep going with what chester is saying.

Sometimes we can't see the woods for tree's, " so we have to clear a path "
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Quote: Originally posted by billybouy on Jan 19, 2010
Yes you are very near to finding the answer, just keep going with what chester is saying.

Hi billybouy,

Haven't seen you post in a long time. Hope all is well and a Happy 2010 to you.

@Mo

As before, I'll see what I can do and post some findings here. But first, a couple of things.

1) Can this procedure be applied to a Wed. draw?

For example, Sat Draw = (Prev Sat 4 matches + Prev Wed 3 matches). Does Wed Draw = (Prev Wed 4 matches + Prev Sat 3 matches)?

2) So that people are all on the same page, should there be a common data/text file to be used for experimenting?

CD
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Quote: Originally posted by ChetserDennis on Jan 19, 2010
Hi billybouy,

Haven't seen you post in a long time. Hope all is well and a Happy 2010 to you.

@Mo

As before, I'll see what I can do and post some findings here. But first, a couple of things.

1) Can this procedure be applied to a Wed. draw?

For example, Sat Draw = (Prev Sat 4 matches + Prev Wed 3 matches). Does Wed Draw = (Prev Wed 4 matches + Prev Sat 3 matches)?

2) So that people are all on the same page, should there be a common data/text file to be used for experimenting?

CD

Hi my friend I am doing OK have been working on an easier way, If you remember my Examples files I did split the draws as this is the only way I know of finding the number and the space that it comes out in, if that sounds double dutch it is as its a way that has been passed on to me years ago, but never mind that just do a list Sat-Wed and Sat does = Wed,your problem would seem to be what pairs with what I can't answer that as it would then be easy for someone to ruin everything, and this popular site, but as I said you are on the right track, my friend is going to join in with these discusions, I am waiting for him to announce himself, on this thread until then I can only say Sat=Wed and put them into a simple graph.

Good luck,

billybouy..

Sometimes we can't see the woods for tree's, " so we have to clear a path "
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Jan 19, 2010, 12:57 pm

Welcome martor54, your on the best site around.

Billybouy..

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