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Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on Jun 4, 2010
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Your cash5 lottery is also a 5/39 game just like the one that Random Logic has on his state.
Here are some past winning combinations from LP:
Latest winning numbers for Tennessee Pick 5
Draw Date Results
Wed, Jun 02, 2010 05-17-19-23-34
Mon, May 31, 2010 04-26-33-34-36
Fri, May 28, 2010 08-12-15-18-34
Wed, May 26, 2010 07-22-34-35-38
Mon, May 24, 2010 14-25-28-33-36
Fri, May 21, 2010 06-11-14-19-30
Wed, May 19, 2010 11-12-15-20-29
Mon, May 17, 2010 14-26-28-29-39
Fri, May 14, 2010 01-07-35-37-39
Wed, May 12, 2010 01-13-25-31-35
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Now to what he said:
#1. Depending on the lottery you are playing the winning numberswill have several
digits that repeat in almost every draw. In a 5 of 39these
digits are "1-2-3" This is very evident to most but I
will explain this so there is no confusion.
01-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-21-31 all contain the digit 1 02-12-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32 all contain the digit 2
03-13-23-30-31-32-33-34-35-36-37-38-39 all contain the digit 3
04-14-24-34 contain the digit 4
05-15-25-35 contain the digit 5
06-16-26-36 contain the digit 6
07-17-27-37 contain the digit 7
08-18-28-38 contain the digit 8
09-19-29-39 contain the digit 9
10-20-30 contain the digit 0
digit "0" is not counted when it is used to pad a single digit number. The set 01-02-03-04-05 contains 5 digits only
The set 13-15-24-25-32contains the same 5 digits The set 01-11-12-21-22contains only 2 digits(The 1 and the 2).
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Sample:
Wed, Jun 02, 2010 05-17-19-23-34 (Thatzerois not countedas it is to the Lthof the 5 digit)
Total or over-all "Boxed" Digits Counts for the above past winning combination:
It has no 0 digits
It has two 1 digits
It has one 2 digit
It has two 3 digits
It has one 4 digit
It has one 5 digit
It has no 6 digit
It has one 7 digit
It has no 8 digit
It has one 9 digit
That is a sort of I.D. or fingerprint of the above past winning number combination from the state of Tn, that is or might be shared by other past winning combinations.
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He Said: (Edited)
#2. It is very easy to see why almost every drawing will contain the
digits 1-2-3 as they occur in more numbers than the digits "4567890"
not only in decades "first digits" but is the second digit in the 9
numbers: 11-12-13-21-22-23-31-32-33more often than any digit greater
then 3.
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Example:
Wed, Jun 02, 2010 05-17-19-23-34
Mon, May 31, 2010 04-26-33-34-36
Fri, May 28, 2010 08-12-15-18-34
Wed, May 26, 2010 07-22-34-35-38
Mon, May 24, 2010 14-25-28-33-36
Fri, May 21, 2010 06-11-14-19-30
Wed, May 19, 2010 11-12-15-20-29
Mon, May 17, 2010 14-26-28-29-39
Fri, May 14, 2010 01-07-35-37-39
Wed, May 12, 2010 01-13-25-31-35
There, maybe about 5 combinations out of 10have ALL of the 1, 2 and 3 digits on them.
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He said:
#3. Every draw must contain at least oneor moreof the digits 1-2-3 except for sets 04-05-06-07-08 and 05-06-07-08-09. Set 34-35-36-37-38
containsonly one of the base numbers 1-2-3
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As the decades are 0, 1, 2, and 3, that is probably true!
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More later.
Bootleg and others.
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RL said:
#4 ID "individual digit" stands for the different digitsthat make upa
set of numbers. set 01-13-26-34-39 contains 6 ID's 1-2-3-4-6-9 the total numbers that can be made of these 6 digits in a 5-39 lottery
are 24. 01-02-03-04-06-09-11-12-13-14-16-19-21-22-23-24-26-29-31-32
33-34-36-39. The total5 number sets that can be made from 24 numbers is
42,504. This is where ID comes in. Notice that the set 01-11-12-21-22 is
made of the 24 core numbershowever it is comprised of digits 1 and 2. If ID is set on 6then this set is rejected. If every setthat contains more or less than 6 selected digitsis rejected, only 5421 sets remain.
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Example: Beware of any mistakes that I might make, before, now and later.
How manyIDs or Individual digitsareon these combos?
Wed, Jun 02, 2010 05-17-19-23-34.5, 1, 7, 9, 2, 3 and 4. There are 7 IDs
Mon, May 31, 2010 04-26-33-34-36 4 2 6 3 There are 4 IDs.
Fri, May 28, 2010 08-12-15-18-34.8 12 5 3 4 There are 6 IDs.
Wed, May 26, 2010 07-22-34-35-38.7 2 3 4 5 8 There are 6 IDs, but No 1 digits
Mon, May 24, 2010 14-25-28-33-36 1 4 2 5 8 3 6 There are 7 ID's there.
Fri, May 21, 2010 06-11-14-19-30 6 1 4 9 3 0 There are 6 IDs, but No 2 digits
Wed, May 19, 2010 11-12-15-20-29.1 2 5 0 9 There are 5 IDs, but No 3 digits
Mon, May 17, 2010 14-26-28-29-39 1 4 2 6 8 9 3 There are 7 IDs.
Fri, May 14, 2010 01-07-35-37-39 1 7 3 5 9 There are 5 IDs but No 2 digit.
Wed, May 12, 2010 01-13-25-31-35 1 3 2 5 There are 4 IDs.
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So maybe we could say that there was 1 winning hit combination there:
Fri, May 28, 2010 08-12-15-18-34.8 12 5 3 4 There are 6 IDs.
It has 6 IDs and it has the 1, 2 and 3 digits on it!
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He says that his sytem is set to reject ALL combinations that don't have 5 or 6 IDs and the 1, 2 and 3 digits on them.
At least as a working example to go by, we might for now say that.
It is up to him or a person to set the selectedand therefore alsothe rejection filter factors, to any given values, as a person sees fit to do.
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What I said there might be wrong or right, read-study the text and find out by yourself.
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Those few draws on the example seem to have had a bias for 6 and 7 IDs combos.
A person might not be restricted to original settings, use whatever seems to work best at the time for your particular lottery game.
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So far it is still way too many combinationsand special filter software might be needed, but I don't know for sure, as I can't test the system myself.
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#5 The odds for a 5-39 lottery are 575,757 to 1. This means that 575757 sets
are possiable. By selecting only 6 digits to play and restricting each
set to 6 and only 6 digits, you just reduced the possible sets (Combos?) to fewer
than 1%
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That means to select only combinations that have ID 6and reject all other combinationsin order to reduce all the possible predicted combosto maybe about 1% of the total unfiltered total of about 575,757.
575757/100 might be about 5,757.57 or 5,757
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#6 Now consider that with the digits 1-2-3 appearing in almost every draw
you now only need 3 more digits to complete your ID. I have used 6 ID
in this example, there will be many draws that contain only 5, which
means you need only 2 more digit selections to complete the ID selection.
ID's for my lottery
2 hit 0
3 hit 1
4 hit 62
5 hit 223
6 hit 246
7 hit 98
8 hit 3
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These are the statistics of the hits of those IDs on his state's lottery game:
ID's for my lottery
2 hit 0
3 hit 1
4 hit 62
5 hit 223
6 hit 246
7 hit 98
8 hit 3
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As seen there, combos that have IDs 5 and 6produced the most hits on the history of those winning combos.
That might be or not be the same for other state lotteries!
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I should not have to say anything about this as I said it already:
#7 I have shown how with one very simple step you can reduce the sets you
have to choose from from 100% down to less then 1%.
#8 This is why I keep pointing out that you only need to select 3 digits. not
the 1-2-3 as they are always used, you need only to select the 2 or 3 other digits
to complete your 5 or 6ID. I play 5-6 in my software but the pin and paper
players should settle on only 1. I nearly never go above 6 or less then 5
If 4 hits then I still have a good chance of hitting 4 the same if it is 7
#9 Now you should see why I keep pointing out how similar all the drawings
are. Its not the 1-2-3 but the other digits as well. Even if you miss
a digit value you still have a good chance of winning a prize.
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#10 TD "total digits" If you are playing a 5 number lottery then you can have
a maxium of 10 total digits. This means that all 5 numbers are above 10.
example "10 18 25 32 38" the set "01 11 14 22 27" has 9 and the set
"01 04 20 34 37" has 8 and so on. I use TD to help me select how many
numbers within a draw will be above / below 10. IE single digit numbers.
using the same settings as above in step #4 and setting the TD to 9, I
now have only 2430 sets to choose from. I now have less then 1/2 of 1%
of the total sets to choose from.
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The above might not have been worded quite right and so it is not really completely clear.
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A cash 5 has 5 numbers and 5 of those numbers are really 10 digits put together, but as that system does not cound decade 0 as a digit then it is possible to have combos like this one:
01 02 03 04 05 That then will have only 5 "CountAble digits"
A combo such as:
35 36 37 38 39 Has 10 countable digits, digit 3 of course repeated there a few times, so countable digits and IDs of combos don't have to be exactly the same thing.
Maybe, but I am not sure, TD or total digits might be how many digits are in or on a combo regardless of the combo's ID #.
The 0 decade doesn't count as a digit, so maybe if a combo has one 0 decade it has only 9 TD, if it has two 0 decades then maybe it has 8 TDs, if it has four 0 decades then maybe it has 6 TDs, and so forth and so on.
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Is that right or did I make mistakes?
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I guess that bootLeg and any others would not need any more explaining after this.
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Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on Jun 4, 2010
#10 TD "total digits" If you are playing a 5 number lottery then you can have
a maxium of 10 total digits. This means that all 5 numbers are above 10.
example "10 18 25 32 38" the set "01 11 14 22 27" has 9 and the set
"01 04 20 34 37" has 8 and so on. I use TD to help me select how many
numbers within a draw will be above / below 10. IE single digit numbers.
using the same settings as above in step #4 and setting the TD to 9, I
now have only 2430 sets to choose from. I now have less then 1/2 of 1%
of the total sets to choose from.
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The above might not have been worded quite right and so it is not really completely clear.
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A cash 5 has 5 numbers and 5 of those numbers are really 10 digits put together, but as that system does not cound decade 0 as a digit then it is possible to have combos like this one:
01 02 03 04 05 That then will have only 5 "CountAble digits"
A combo such as:
35 36 37 38 39 Has 10 countable digits, digit 3 of course repeated there a few times, so countable digits and IDs of combos don't have to be exactly the same thing.
Maybe, but I am not sure, TD or total digits might be how many digits are in or on a combo regardless of the combo's ID #.
The 0 decade doesn't count as a digit, so maybe if a combo has one 0 decade it has only 9 TD, if it has two 0 decades then maybe it has 8 TDs, if it has four 0 decades then maybe it has 6 TDs, and so forth and so on.
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Is that right or did I make mistakes?
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I guess that bootLeg and any others would not need any more explaining after this.
You are right, My mind runs much faster then my fingers can type.
Thanks for pointing it out. I think that you could give a more accurate description then me
As at times I am thinking of my states lottery and at other times I am trying to adopt it
for a different state. In this back and forth motion is were the mistakes are made and
I am as you know by now not! very good explaining things. Fell free to post it as it should
be posted and if I see somthing I will let you know.
Thanks again, This is what I meant when i said "I would much rather have you as a friend then foe".
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Beware of any of my possible mistakes!
THR 06/03/10 08 13 2325 26 1-2-3-5-6-8 There are 6 IDs and 09 TDs
WED 06/02/10 16 23 28 35 39 1-2-3-5-6-8-9 There are 7 IDs and 10 TDs
TUE 06/01/10 07 21 23 27 29 1-2-3-7-9 There are 5 IDs and 09 TDs
MON 05/31/10 03 09 12 15 39 1-2-3-5-9 There are 5 IDs and 08 TDs
SUN 05/30/10 01 05 30 33 38 0-1-3-5-8 There are 5 IDs and 08 TDs No 2 Digit
SAT 05/29/10 09 18 23 29 36 1-2-3-6-8-9 There are 6 IDs and 09 TDs
FRI 05/28/10 04 16 23 24 39 1-2-3-4-6-9 There are 6 IDs and 09 TDs
THU 05/27/10 03 08 21 24 28 1-2-3-4-8 There are 5 IDs and 08 TDs
WED 05/26/10 14 18 20 27 33 0-1-2-3-4-7 There are 6 IDs and 10 TDs
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There were 7 possible wins and only 2 "Out of bounds" draws out of the total 9, very very good!
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You know that besides your system, there are many possible filter patterns, only actual testing can tell the amount of possible filtration for each of them, also some might be less prone to failures than others.
A person might want to use the fewer amount of possible filter patterns needed in order to reduce the combos just as much as He can afford to play and still make a good enough profit.
Too much reduction can lead to having fewer wins as you already know!
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hello all been reading what have been posted for MO. i see 10-12-13-15-16-18- or 11-20-23-24-26-28- or 12-21-30-35-36-38 tell me if i close Thank you all for this information.
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Quote: Originally posted by LANTERN on Jun 4, 2010
Bootleg and others.
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RL said:
#4 ID "individual digit" stands for the different digitsthat make upa
set of numbers. set 01-13-26-34-39 contains 6 ID's 1-2-3-4-6-9 the total numbers that can be made of these 6 digits in a 5-39 lottery
are 24. 01-02-03-04-06-09-11-12-13-14-16-19-21-22-23-24-26-29-31-32
33-34-36-39. The total5 number sets that can be made from 24 numbers is
42,504. This is where ID comes in. Notice that the set 01-11-12-21-22 is
made of the 24 core numbershowever it is comprised of digits 1 and 2. If ID is set on 6then this set is rejected. If every setthat contains more or less than 6 selected digitsis rejected, only 5421 sets remain.
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Example: Beware of any mistakes that I might make, before, now and later.
How manyIDs or Individual digitsareon these combos?
Wed, Jun 02, 2010 05-17-19-23-34.5, 1, 7, 9, 2, 3 and 4. There are 7 IDs
Mon, May 31, 2010 04-26-33-34-36 4 2 6 3 There are 4 IDs.
Fri, May 28, 2010 08-12-15-18-34.8 12 5 3 4 There are 6 IDs.
Wed, May 26, 2010 07-22-34-35-38.7 2 3 4 5 8 There are 6 IDs, but No 1 digits
Mon, May 24, 2010 14-25-28-33-36 1 4 2 5 8 3 6 There are 7 ID's there.
Fri, May 21, 2010 06-11-14-19-30 6 1 4 9 3 0 There are 6 IDs, but No 2 digits
Wed, May 19, 2010 11-12-15-20-29.1 2 5 0 9 There are 5 IDs, but No 3 digits
Mon, May 17, 2010 14-26-28-29-39 1 4 2 6 8 9 3 There are 7 IDs.
Fri, May 14, 2010 01-07-35-37-39 1 7 3 5 9 There are 5 IDs but No 2 digit.
Wed, May 12, 2010 01-13-25-31-35 1 3 2 5 There are 4 IDs.
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So maybe we could say that there was 1 winning hit combination there:
Fri, May 28, 2010 08-12-15-18-34.8 12 5 3 4 There are 6 IDs.
It has 6 IDs and it has the 1, 2 and 3 digits on it!
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He says that his sytem is set to reject ALL combinations that don't have 5 or 6 IDs and the 1, 2 and 3 digits on them.
At least as a working example to go by, we might for now say that.
It is up to him or a person to set the selectedand therefore alsothe rejection filter factors, to any given values, as a person sees fit to do.
---------------
What I said there might be wrong or right, read-study the text and find out by yourself.
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Those few draws on the example seem to have had a bias for 6 and 7 IDs combos.
A person might not be restricted to original settings, use whatever seems to work best at the time for your particular lottery game.
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So far it is still way too many combinationsand special filter software might be needed, but I don't know for sure, as I can't test the system myself.
Lantern Thank you kindly for all your explaining and help and thank you RL-RandomLogic for letting us have a little peak at your system......I believe it is only a matter of time before !!!!!!!!! JP lol
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Quote: Originally posted by CLOVER$BAY on Jun 4, 2010
hello all been reading what have been posted for MO. i see 10-12-13-15-16-18- or 11-20-23-24-26-28- or 12-21-30-35-36-38 tell me if i close Thank you all for this information.
CLOVER$BAY
I see you played 7 ID I just checked and bayes shows it is the strongest for tonight's draw at 60%
TD is showing to be a strong 8 for tonight. and you have 10. but 10 is also due so this is a hard call
bayes on digits 0 to 9
digit 0 = 30%
digit 1 = 85%
digit 2 = 92%
digit 3 = 81%
digit 4 = 50%
digit 5 = 22%
digit 6 = 25%
digit 7 = 75%
digit 8 = 40%
digit 9 = 50%
This is my bayes raw data percents but should give good results. Nothing is 100%
Your sets look prety good to me. Bayes often reports that a certian amount of low % digits should
be included because of a pattern curve that rises or falls very steeply. So 5 and 6 could be correct
I hope that you win big, If it does then please post it, post it even if it doesn't
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Quote: Originally posted by CLOVER$BAY on Jun 4, 2010
hello all been reading what have been posted for MO. i see 10-12-13-15-16-18- or 11-20-23-24-26-28- or 12-21-30-35-36-38 tell me if i close Thank you all for this information.
clover$bay
Stupid me. I just noticed that you are playing 6 numbers so here is the data for MO. lotto
7-ID is best with 6 comming in a close second. 10-TD is best with 11 second and 12 due
If TD=10 in the next draw that would mean that two numbers will be below 10
best range for 1st number is 6 to 10 and second best is 1-5
2nd number best range would be above 11 and below 25 which would then mean that TD =11
3rd number best range is also 11 to 24
4th number best range is 21 to 24 29 to 32 next and tied with 37-40 not much help
5th number best range is 25 to 32
6th number best range is 37 to 44
many of these numbers will be rejected depending on your ID digits selected. Until I get everything
back up and running this is the best I can do. Not much help.
dig-0 =24% but shows it is in a process of change, recent data shows a greater hit rate
dig-1 =93% for 1 or more hits
dig-2 =91% but is an unstable pattern should hit 2 or more if it hits
dig-3 =91% and is very stable should hit 2 or more
dig-4 =88% and is somewhat stable I would give it a 50/50 chance
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Quote: Originally posted by CLOVER$BAY on Jun 4, 2010
hello all been reading what have been posted for MO. i see 10-12-13-15-16-18- or 11-20-23-24-26-28- or 12-21-30-35-36-38 tell me if i close Thank you all for this information.