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My digit system for pick-5 or pick-6 lottery

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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Thanks for posting your system.

Have a couple questions:

Some Definitions first

ID = Independent digits. Digits 0-9 counted only once regardless of
     times within a set.

TD = Total digits. Number of all digits within a set but does not
     include leading zero's

DOD = Double odd digits. Numbers made from two odd digits

DEV = Double even digit. Numbers made from two even digits

MDN = Mixed digit numbers. Numbers made from 1-odd and 1-even digit

The DOD, DEV, and MDN.  Do we include the padded zero's?

For example if we have a 08, do we say this is a "DEV"?

Thanks!!

yes, that is correct. I will be posting part 2 within a day or two that will alllow people to

make selections with much  less efffort. 

Thanks

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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    My pick-5 pick-6 Part 2

    About a year ago a LP member posted a question similar to this. "Is there any way

    to calculate where a certain set of numbers would appear within a list of all the

    combinations for a given lottery".  I assumed some bright mentor of LP would belly

    up to the table and provide a means to solve this question. To my knowledge it went

    pretty much unanswered.  I am neither bright nor a good mentor as I have been watching

    from afar, gleaming what I could and not putting anything back. For this I apologize.     

    If that person is still interested.

    In a 5/44 lottery the set "03-17-24-35-42" would fall on line 317882

    n1 = 3, n2 = 17, n3 = 24, n4 = 35, n5 = 42

    n=44, r=5

    x1 = nCr
    x2 = (n-n1)Cr
    x2 = (x1-x2)
    x3 = (n-n2)C(r-1)
    x4 = (n-n3)C(r-2)
    x5 = (n-n4)C(r-3)
    x6 = (n-n5)
    p1 = (x2-(x3+x4+x5+x6)) = 317882

    This took me 3 or 4 days to work out and I never even posted it. Again sorry to that
    Person. This can be reversed to find the set from the line number and can be adapted
    to any lottery. If interested let me know.

    Now, with that that off my chest back to the system. Those who have started working

    this system have by now came to the conclusion that it is not as easy as it looks.

    Some people will already be having some success and others will not.  In my quest

    I have found that not all people think the same way. For some it will be clear and

    others it will not. For some it will be really hard to turn loose of preconceived

    notions of what will happen.  


    Next step, "encode your data".  The first digits are the easiest to hit, this is

    because in a 5-39 lottery the digits "0-1-2-3" are the only 4 digits that can be

    used, and explain why those digits appear in almost every draw. I think that most

    people will be shocked when they notice how small a group of digits make up most

    winning combos even when all 5 of the second digits can be anything from "0 to 9".

    Look at power ball's last draw. 1-3-24-28-41 PB:10 "0-1-2-3-4-8" make up the entire

    draw including the power ball. How many of you would have liked to have know this a

    few days ago. This happens more then one would think.


    Encoding data.

    As most people are not programmers my task is made a little harder in providing a

    means to an end.  What I will call "Encoding data" in this section is for the pen

    and paper players as they make up the largest pool. Lets say that you have followed

    the instructions and seem unable to pin down any one or two sets of numbers. Below

    is the next step for you.

    first make a list of the first digits of each number and then out to the side place

    a checkmark beside each, every time it comes up in past draws. this can be done using

    a day to day draw sample, the more the better.


    0-1-1-2-3 ////
     
    0-0-1-2-2 //

    0-1-2-3-3 ////

    and so on.  You will find about 5 of these base sets hit a greater percentage of the time.

    For a starting place, play maybe 2 of each of the 3 or so sets that hit most often. This

    will work very well most days. Pay close attention to drawing trends as they will appear

    and run sometimes for many days at a time. In this instance, a trend is where numbers sets

    appear in like formats. First numbers will be greater then 10 or first number will be 5 or

    below, That sort of thing.

    The second digit
    reverse fltering / encoding
    This is where encoding comes in. below is a example of the type of encoding to use.

    second digits

    1-7-2-3-4  OOEOE LHLLL
    3-1-4-8-2  OOEEE LLLHL
    5-6-2-4-9  OEEEO HHLLH
    7-2-3-4-2  OEOEE HLLLL

    O = odd "1-3-5-7-9"

    E = even "0-2-4-6-8"

    L = low "0-1-2-3-4"

    H = hi  "5-6-7-8-9"


    The first information encoded is odd - even digits and the second is hi - low digits

    You may be thinking how can this help. Simple, let's say you are looking for a digit to

    use as the first number's second digit. you have a 0 to 9 choice or a odd - even choice.

    A 50/50 or a 1 in 10. Lets say you choose odd and low based on data gleamed from your

    list as the best choice for this digit. You now have digits "0-2-4" to select from.

    repeat this for all five second digits keeping a TD and ID count. Don't be tempted to

    stretch the selections above the 5 or 6 ID's. Stay on track play smart, play fewer.

    Don't focus on what might happen focus on what happens most. As OZ would say "pay no

    attention to the man behind the curtain" meaning your inner preconceived notions.

    For the programmers, get creative with this. There are so many ways to encode /compact

    data into fewer and fewer choices that are far beyond what can be done with pen and

    paper.

    Best of luck to all.

    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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      Thanks for posting part 2.

      Question

      "First make a list of the first digits of each number and then out to the side place

      a checkmark beside each, every time it comes up in past draws. this can be done using

      a day to day draw sample, the more the better.


      0-1-1-2-3 ////
       
      0-0-1-2-2 //

      0-1-2-3-3 ////

       

      Could you give an example from Missouri Cash 5/39 on how you use the checkmarks?

      I'm trying to replicate your thread to Excel.  Here is the download link to the Excel file: http://www.box.net/shared/3zx1d2x1zk  Thanks!

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        Thanks for posting part 2.

        Question

        "First make a list of the first digits of each number and then out to the side place

        a checkmark beside each, every time it comes up in past draws. this can be done using

        a day to day draw sample, the more the better.


        0-1-1-2-3 ////
         
        0-0-1-2-2 //

        0-1-2-3-3 ////

         

        Could you give an example from Missouri Cash 5/39 on how you use the checkmarks?

        I'm trying to replicate your thread to Excel.  Here is the download link to the Excel file: http://www.box.net/shared/3zx1d2x1zk  Thanks!

        Hello

         

        This is all done and sorted by my program and just the top hitters are displayed along with last drawn, skips,

        average, and a bayes derived  next best.  This example was for people using pen and paper  and is what I

        was talking about when I said it was hard to put in a form that could be used by the average user.  Hope

        this helps

        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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          Hello

           

          This is all done and sorted by my program and just the top hitters are displayed along with last drawn, skips,

          average, and a bayes derived  next best.  This example was for people using pen and paper  and is what I

          was talking about when I said it was hard to put in a form that could be used by the average user.  Hope

          this helps

          Hello again

          Here is a solution, number all the possable combos that can be drawn and then number them 1 to the

          highest. Then you can enter this value in another cell and search that cell for the best hitters.

          I can run off a list of all the combos and number them if  needed.

          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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            Hello again

            Here is a solution, number all the possable combos that can be drawn and then number them 1 to the

            highest. Then you can enter this value in another cell and search that cell for the best hitters.

            I can run off a list of all the combos and number them if  needed.

            How many combinations will you need to run off?

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              How many combinations will you need to run off?

              MANY OF THESE WILL NEVER HIT

              01    0-0-0-0-0
              02    0-0-0-0-1
              03    0-0-0-0-2
              04    0-0-0-0-3
              05    0-0-0-1-1
              06    0-0-0-1-2
              07    0-0-0-1-3
              08    0-0-0-2-2
              09    0-0-0-2-3
              10    0-0-0-3-3
              11    0-0-1-1-1
              12    0-0-1-1-2
              13    0-0-1-1-3
              14    0-0-1-2-2
              15    0-0-1-2-3
              16    0-0-1-3-3
              17    0-0-2-2-2
              18    0-0-2-2-3
              19    0-0-2-3-3
              20    0-0-3-3-3
              21    0-1-1-1-1
              22    0-1-1-1-2
              23    0-1-1-1-3
              24    0-1-1-2-2
              25    0-1-1-2-3
              26    0-1-1-3-3
              27    0-1-2-2-2
              28    0-1-2-2-3
              29    0-1-2-3-3
              30    0-1-3-3-3
              31    0-2-2-2-2
              32    0-2-2-2-3
              33    0-2-2-3-3
              34    0-2-3-3-3
              35    0-3-3-3-3
              36    1-1-1-1-1
              37    1-1-1-1-2
              38    1-1-1-1-3
              39    1-1-1-2-2
              40    1-1-1-2-3
              41    1-1-1-3-3
              42    1-1-2-2-2
              43    1-1-2-2-3
              44    1-1-2-3-3
              45    1-1-3-3-3
              46    1-2-2-2-2
              47    1-2-2-2-3
              48    1-2-2-3-3
              49    1-2-3-3-3
              50    1-3-3-3-3
              51    2-2-2-2-2
              52    2-2-2-2-3
              53    2-2-2-3-3
              54    2-2-3-3-3
              55    2-3-3-3-3
              56    3-3-3-3-3

              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                I meant nearly never, anthing is possible.

                Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                  US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                  RL, when I first started reading your thread I thought, " OH, heck, someone trying to sell something". I am wrong. You have been a great help to us. I for one play cash 5 the most and your logic is really down to earth. Again, Thank You.

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                    Thanks for posting part 2.

                    Question

                    "First make a list of the first digits of each number and then out to the side place

                    a checkmark beside each, every time it comes up in past draws. this can be done using

                    a day to day draw sample, the more the better.


                    0-1-1-2-3 ////
                     
                    0-0-1-2-2 //

                    0-1-2-3-3 ////

                     

                    Could you give an example from Missouri Cash 5/39 on how you use the checkmarks?

                    I'm trying to replicate your thread to Excel.  Here is the download link to the Excel file: http://www.box.net/shared/3zx1d2x1zk  Thanks!

                    Thank you for the Excel benchmark.

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                      SAME AS ABOVE BUT FOR  A   6/ 40+ LOTTERY

                      001    0-0-0-0-0-0
                      002    0-0-0-0-0-1
                      003    0-0-0-0-0-2
                      004    0-0-0-0-0-3
                      005    0-0-0-0-0-4
                      006    0-0-0-0-1-2
                      007    0-0-0-0-1-3
                      008    0-0-0-0-1-4
                      009    0-0-0-0-2-3
                      010    0-0-0-0-2-4
                      011    0-0-0-0-3-4
                      012    0-0-0-1-1-1
                      013    0-0-0-1-1-2
                      014    0-0-0-1-1-3
                      015    0-0-0-1-1-4
                      016    0-0-0-1-2-3
                      017    0-0-0-1-2-4
                      018    0-0-0-1-3-4
                      019    0-0-0-2-2-2
                      020    0-0-0-2-2-3
                      021    0-0-0-2-2-4
                      022    0-0-0-2-3-4
                      023    0-0-0-3-3-3
                      024    0-0-0-3-3-4
                      025    0-0-0-4-4-4
                      026    0-0-1-1-1-1
                      027    0-0-1-1-1-2
                      028    0-0-1-1-1-3
                      029    0-0-1-1-1-4
                      030    0-0-1-1-2-3
                      031    0-0-1-1-2-4
                      032    0-0-1-1-3-4
                      033    0-0-1-2-2-2
                      034    0-0-1-2-2-3
                      035    0-0-1-2-2-4
                      036    0-0-1-2-3-4
                      037    0-0-1-3-3-3
                      038    0-0-1-3-3-4
                      039    0-0-1-4-4-4
                      040    0-0-2-2-2-2
                      041    0-0-2-2-2-3
                      042    0-0-2-2-2-4
                      043    0-0-2-2-3-4
                      044    0-0-2-3-3-3
                      045    0-0-2-3-3-4
                      046    0-0-2-4-4-4
                      047    0-0-3-3-3-3
                      048    0-0-3-3-3-4
                      049    0-0-3-4-4-4
                      050    0-0-4-4-4-4
                      051    0-1-1-1-1-1
                      052    0-1-1-1-1-2
                      053    0-1-1-1-1-3
                      054    0-1-1-1-1-4
                      055    0-1-1-1-2-3
                      056    0-1-1-1-2-4
                      057    0-1-1-1-3-4
                      058    0-1-1-2-2-2
                      059    0-1-1-2-2-3
                      060    0-1-1-2-2-4
                      061    0-1-1-2-3-4
                      062    0-1-1-3-3-3
                      063    0-1-1-3-3-4
                      064    0-1-1-4-4-4
                      065    0-1-2-2-2-2
                      066    0-1-2-2-2-3
                      067    0-1-2-2-2-4
                      068    0-1-2-2-3-4
                      069    0-1-2-3-3-3
                      070    0-1-2-3-3-4
                      071    0-1-2-4-4-4
                      072    0-1-3-3-3-3
                      073    0-1-3-3-3-4
                      074    0-1-3-4-4-4
                      075    0-1-4-4-4-4
                      076    0-2-2-2-2-2
                      077    0-2-2-2-2-3
                      078    0-2-2-2-2-4
                      079    0-2-2-2-3-4
                      080    0-2-2-3-3-3
                      081    0-2-2-3-3-4
                      082    0-2-2-4-4-4
                      083    0-2-3-3-3-3
                      084    0-2-3-3-3-4
                      085    0-2-3-4-4-4
                      086    0-2-4-4-4-4
                      087    0-3-3-3-3-3
                      088    0-3-3-3-3-4
                      089    0-3-3-4-4-4
                      090    0-3-4-4-4-4
                      091    0-4-4-4-4-4
                      092    1-1-1-1-1-1
                      093    1-1-1-1-1-2
                      094    1-1-1-1-1-3
                      095    1-1-1-1-1-4
                      096    1-1-1-1-2-3
                      097    1-1-1-1-2-4
                      098    1-1-1-1-3-4
                      099    1-1-1-2-2-2
                      100    1-1-1-2-2-3
                      101    1-1-1-2-2-4
                      102    1-1-1-2-3-4
                      103    1-1-1-3-3-3
                      104    1-1-1-3-3-4
                      105    1-1-1-4-4-4
                      106    1-1-2-2-2-2
                      107    1-1-2-2-2-3
                      108    1-1-2-2-2-4
                      109    1-1-2-2-3-4
                      110    1-1-2-3-3-3
                      111    1-1-2-3-3-4
                      112    1-1-2-4-4-4
                      113    1-1-3-3-3-3
                      114    1-1-3-3-3-4
                      115    1-1-3-4-4-4
                      116    1-1-4-4-4-4
                      117    1-2-2-2-2-2
                      118    1-2-2-2-2-3
                      119    1-2-2-2-2-4
                      120    1-2-2-2-3-4
                      121    1-2-2-3-3-3
                      122    1-2-2-3-3-4
                      123    1-2-2-4-4-4
                      124    1-2-3-3-3-3
                      125    1-2-3-3-3-4
                      126    1-2-3-4-4-4
                      127    1-2-4-4-4-4
                      128    1-3-3-3-3-3
                      129    1-3-3-3-3-4
                      130    1-3-3-4-4-4
                      131    1-3-4-4-4-4
                      132    1-4-4-4-4-4
                      133    2-2-2-2-2-2
                      134    2-2-2-2-2-3
                      135    2-2-2-2-2-4
                      136    2-2-2-2-3-4
                      137    2-2-2-3-3-3
                      138    2-2-2-3-3-4
                      139    2-2-2-4-4-4
                      140    2-2-3-3-3-3
                      141    2-2-3-3-3-4
                      142    2-2-3-4-4-4
                      143    2-2-4-4-4-4
                      144    2-3-3-3-3-3
                      145    2-3-3-3-3-4
                      146    2-3-3-4-4-4
                      147    2-3-4-4-4-4
                      148    2-4-4-4-4-4
                      149    3-3-3-3-3-3
                      150    3-3-3-3-3-4
                      151    3-3-3-4-4-4
                      152    3-3-4-4-4-4
                      153    3-4-4-4-4-4
                      154    4-4-4-4-4-4

                      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                        Just wanted to mention, in lotteries like PB and MM and many 40 plus number lotteries use the

                        same process for first digit as the second.  Don't be put off by the combo list above. I just posted 

                        them for anyone to use as they see fit.

                        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                          MANY OF THESE WILL NEVER HIT

                          01    0-0-0-0-0
                          02    0-0-0-0-1
                          03    0-0-0-0-2
                          04    0-0-0-0-3
                          05    0-0-0-1-1
                          06    0-0-0-1-2
                          07    0-0-0-1-3
                          08    0-0-0-2-2
                          09    0-0-0-2-3
                          10    0-0-0-3-3
                          11    0-0-1-1-1
                          12    0-0-1-1-2
                          13    0-0-1-1-3
                          14    0-0-1-2-2
                          15    0-0-1-2-3
                          16    0-0-1-3-3
                          17    0-0-2-2-2
                          18    0-0-2-2-3
                          19    0-0-2-3-3
                          20    0-0-3-3-3
                          21    0-1-1-1-1
                          22    0-1-1-1-2
                          23    0-1-1-1-3
                          24    0-1-1-2-2
                          25    0-1-1-2-3
                          26    0-1-1-3-3
                          27    0-1-2-2-2
                          28    0-1-2-2-3
                          29    0-1-2-3-3
                          30    0-1-3-3-3
                          31    0-2-2-2-2
                          32    0-2-2-2-3
                          33    0-2-2-3-3
                          34    0-2-3-3-3
                          35    0-3-3-3-3
                          36    1-1-1-1-1
                          37    1-1-1-1-2
                          38    1-1-1-1-3
                          39    1-1-1-2-2
                          40    1-1-1-2-3
                          41    1-1-1-3-3
                          42    1-1-2-2-2
                          43    1-1-2-2-3
                          44    1-1-2-3-3
                          45    1-1-3-3-3
                          46    1-2-2-2-2
                          47    1-2-2-2-3
                          48    1-2-2-3-3
                          49    1-2-3-3-3
                          50    1-3-3-3-3
                          51    2-2-2-2-2
                          52    2-2-2-2-3
                          53    2-2-2-3-3
                          54    2-2-3-3-3
                          55    2-3-3-3-3
                          56    3-3-3-3-3

                          Thanks.

                          Same list with combinations per each 1st digit:

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                            Thanks.

                            Same list with combinations per each 1st digit:

                            Nice job!!!

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                              I updated the Excel file for those interested.  I added the list of 56 "1st Digits" and the number of hits in the past 30 draws.  Click the Tab labeled "Hits" and scroll over to cell range columns V through Z.

                              You can change the number of draws from 30 to 630 based on the total number of past draws in the Missouri Cash 5/39 game.  Just change the 30 in cell A2 to any value up to 630.  Of course the more new draws you keep entering the higher this number will be.

                              You can update the drawings by going to the tab labeled "Draws" and click the Toolbar labeled "Click To Add New Drawing" this will add a new date and then enter the new draw in cell range E20:I20

                                 
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