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JOKER 17

 

I think COIN TOSS is related too VISIONDUDE he has the same line of thinking when it comes too quick-picks  who cares if quick-picks win more  often it's not because that method is better or will  increase your chances I should know I TRIED quick-picks and they didn't do squat for me


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    COIN  TOSS

     

    (Yet the system peddlers say don't play quick picks. Should you spring for the $747.50 please do let us know at what point you break even.)

     

     

    Well don't listen too the system peddlers and don't buy there stuff that should solve that problem  for you and no one  in this  forum would ever spend that kind of money on a system so why even bring that up??

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      Consider that the thread is about Steve Player's $747.50 system for the IL Little Lotto. Do you really think someone who shells out that kind of money for a system is looking for a higher hit percentage? No, they are looking to hit a jackpot.

      As for the dartboard, let's say it's a dollar a dart. The person throwing one dart has payed one dollar for the dart to throw. The person throwing 10 darts (who has bought the system) has paid the system seller $747 and pays $10 per dart.

      Good heavens man, what part of mathematical statistics calculation do you understand???

      lasas3

      An onion a day keeps everyone away!!!

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        I would say to anyone if this is the way that you want to spend your money on a person who has won

        jackpots, and make just as much money off the general public with system that might give a little profit

        to keep you coming back go ahead. A lie doesn't care who tell it. That is highway robbery to charge that

        much for a system. The man got some kind of greed going on. Why not charge somethin that people can afford

        and they will keep coming back.

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          Good heavens man, what part of mathematical statistics calculation do you understand???

          It is nothing but a coin toss,  remember this is an ex casino worker,  with deep inside information,  no need for mathematics in the real world,  capice?

           Ahh! You win again!


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            I agree a lot of his  system are INSANELY over priced and that's why I only purchase stuff under $60 and only if it's worth buying and in his defense though he does have systems that are within an affordable price range not all of his systems are outrageously expensive.In fact some of the cheaper ones are  actually better than some of the expensive ones.

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              I would say to anyone if this is the way that you want to spend your money on a person who has won

              jackpots, and make just as much money off the general public with system that might give a little profit

              to keep you coming back go ahead. A lie doesn't care who tell it. That is highway robbery to charge that

              much for a system. The man got some kind of greed going on. Why not charge somethin that people can afford

              and they will keep coming back.

              When anyone produces a lottery system or software they have the right to not share it or share it and ask for what ever they think their effort spent producing it's worth.  Usually vendors of such systems and software include a disclaimer to warn their potential customers that their product is for entertainment only so those who can't afford to waste their money know the risk.  No one is going to spend time and effort to making anyone rich except themselves and anyone who thinks other wise is dreaming.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                When anyone produces a lottery system or software they have the right to not share it or share it and ask for what ever they think their effort spent producing it's worth.  Usually vendors of such systems and software include a disclaimer to warn their potential customers that their product is for entertainment only so those who can't afford to waste their money know the risk.  No one is going to spend time and effort to making anyone rich except themselves and anyone who thinks other wise is dreaming.

                And that why I said if that the way you want to spend your money that is your choice. But there is a thing call

                within reason as well as greed. I do agree with you that no one is going to spend the time to make anyone

                rich except themselves if they have the winning secret, because I know that,  this is the reason I wouldn't

                spend the 795.00 . I have spend money to buy system before. I have a limit not over 50.00. I find this

                site to have so much information that I wouldn't even spend that, plus I think I'm pretty decent player myself. I'm always looking to improve my odd.


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                  joker17,

                  And the reason for the low number of shared JPs is because the system/self pick players are the MINORITY.

                  Exactly joker. So if he systems are not overhpyed  where are the spectracular results they are supposed to produce? They, and their systems play, are in the minority when it comes to won jackpots.

                  As for the fishing pole question, you shot yourself in the foot with that one. MEDIC! WE HAVE A SELF-INFLICTED FOOT WOUND OVER HERE! Whoever goes to where the fish are biting will catch more fish.  Richard's 10 poles aren't going to do him any good if there are no fish there. Just another thing system sellers don't want you to know.

                  Thud

                  You should've been a lawyer.

                  The system players are a minority because there are LESS of them.

                  You must be pulling my leg.....

                  I know you're trying to save face, but it's actually back firing.

                  You're also so off on the fishing scenario. You twist what I'm saying to make yourself look better but it's futile. Give it up before you make yourself look more stupid.

                  Nice try, but try it on someone else.

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                    Coin's statistics, 149 jackpots paid out of 358 drawings doesn't reflect on, how many of the 358 drawings had a jackpot winner because the "149" includes multiple winners on the same numbers. I'm guessing about 90 of the 358 drawings had jackpot winners. Player may have analyzed all the jackpot winning numbers from those 90 drawings in Ill Little Lotto, grouped those numbers together and is really saying "had you played these groups, you would have hit 63% of the jackpots". Or Player's groups of numbers could be from all the drawings results whether there was a jackpot winner on that drawing or not.

                    At $747.50, this system isn't aimed at $5 QP players and it would be interesting to see the actual cost of play to "win" 63% of the jackpots.

                    Stack47,

                    You are making many assumptions. There have indeed been 149 Jackpot winners for this game this year. So much for your guessing about 90 jackpots have been paid this year. The multiple winner draws are listed below, too, as shared jackpots.  The IL Lottery sends a daily e-mail of results and payouts if you ask for it. They look like this:

                    LITTLE LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR FRIDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2010

                    WINNING NUMBERS: 01 - 03 - 15 - 22 - 27

                    PLAYERS MATCHING 5 OF 5 NUMBERS
                    INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS 1
                    EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE $100,000.00

                    WINNING TICKETS WERE SOLD AT

                    201862 7-ELEVEN #33876B (QP)
                    1418 HINTZ RD
                    ARLINGTON HEIGHTS/60004

                    This is 2010 thus far:

                    To date:

                    149 Jackpots

                    65 PP

                    130 QP

                    Solo jackpots: 113

                    Shared jackpots: 36

                    Highest jackpot:

                    $1,125,000 Split five ways on Sep 21, 2010

                    Average jackpot: $229,986

                    Total jackpot money paid out to date: $34,268,000

                    If you care to see the results jackpot by @!#$%^&  jackpot they are in this thread:

                     http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/206575/15

                    There are also similar threads for 2008 and 2009. Or you can just keep telling us what you "Guess" hit.

                    When you are ready to back up what you say with actual results and not pure opinion I'll pay a little more attention to you. By the way, did you ever list those payouts for one digit hits in Kentucky? I still can't find a thing about that on their website or playslips.

                    Since this thread is about 5/39 games I invite you and everyone else to pick a state, pick a 5/39 game and actually track it. Then we'll talk.

                    Until then, Steve Player is waiting or 20 people per 5/39 state to send in the $747.50.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                      JOKER 17

                       

                      I think COIN TOSS is related too VISIONDUDE he has the same line of thinking when it comes too quick-picks  who cares if quick-picks win more  often it's not because that method is better or will  increase your chances I should know I TRIED quick-picks and they didn't do squat for me

                      At least you get it....Thank God !....

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                        " I should know I TRIED quick-picks and they didn't do squat for me"

                        Hello. No matter what you try you are not supposed to win. Only a megalomaniac would say "they didn't do squat for me".

                        As if anything else has.

                        Bang Head

                        The offer remains:

                        When anyone is ready to back up what you say with actual results and not pure opinion I'll pay a little more attention to you. Since this thread is about 5/39 games I invite you and everyone else to pick a state, pick a 5/39 game and actually track it. Then we'll talk.

                        No actual results, no credibility.

                        Until then, Steve Player is waiting or 20 people per 5/39 state to send in the $747.50.

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          COIN  TOSS

                           

                          (Yet the system peddlers say don't play quick picks. Should you spring for the $747.50 please do let us know at what point you break even.)

                           

                           

                          Well don't listen too the system peddlers and don't buy there stuff that should solve that problem  for you and no one  in this  forum would ever spend that kind of money on a system so why even bring that up??

                          LotteryTEchInc,

                          "Well don't listen too the system peddlers and don't buy there stuff that should solve that problem  for you and no one  in this  forum would ever spend that kind of money on a system so why even bring that up??"

                          To keep some poor sap from spending the $747.50

                          You may think no one here would do that, however we have how many members?

                          It really never surpises me to see how many gradualtes of MAVEN UNIVERSITY, whose motto is OPINION OVER KNOWLEDGE post on discussion boards.

                          Green laugh

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                            COIN  TOSS

                            Hello. No matter what you try you are not supposed to win. Only a megalomaniac would say "they didn't do squat for me".

                             

                            WRONG!! You are suppose too wiin that's why people PLAY and DO "WIN" using quick-picks,lucky numbers,sytems,software,randomly selecting on a playslip etc.... I said quick-picks didn't  do anything for me as far as winning money in lottery games but using strategies and software did!!!


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                              To keep some poor sap from spending the $747.50

                              You may think no one here would do that, however we have how many members?

                               

                               

                              Who put you in charge  of babysitting GROWN adults in this forum on how they should spend there money?? You been hanging around VISIONDUD too much if  a member in this forum is stupid enough too spend that  kind of money on a system that's there problem not yours