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Pure unadulterated baloney from Steve Player

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Posted: December 26, 2010, 9:23 pm - IP Logged

No, it worked on a somewhat regular basis, but I only made $3,000 once, meaning a lot at one time because I bet 984 six times straight in the P-3. I was going to bet more, like 50 bucks or a hundred, but chickened out at the last minute. I did however convince my roommate to buy one ticket. He was reluctant but I told him that it was better to lose a dollar than kick himself in the butt in the morning. He was glad he listned to me.....lol

 you should kick your self tonight for not playing that 498  .. it hit in florida tonight. .ugh !!!!

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    Posted: December 26, 2010, 11:26 pm - IP Logged

    Coin's statistics, 149 jackpots paid out of 358 drawings doesn't reflect on, how many of the 358 drawings had a jackpot winner because the "149" includes multiple winners on the same numbers. I'm guessing about 90 of the 358 drawings had jackpot winners. Player may have analyzed all the jackpot winning numbers from those 90 drawings in Ill Little Lotto, grouped those numbers together and is really saying "had you played these groups, you would have hit 63% of the jackpots". Or Player's groups of numbers could be from all the drawings results whether there was a jackpot winner on that drawing or not.

    At $747.50, this system isn't aimed at $5 QP players and it would be interesting to see the actual cost of play to "win" 63% of the jackpots.

    Stack, just so happens......

    My curiosity was peeked by the ad, more than the discussion so I set up a routine to determine what SUM RANGES hit 63% of the time. I don't have access to the Little Lotto data so I used the 3931 draws of Texas Cash 5 and 4689 draws of the NJCash5.

    Sum ranges between 74 and 116 hit 63.0374% of the time. Not to derail the discussion, but this means you cover 42 sum ranges which encompass about 217,000 numbers with no filtering.

    In Jersey the sums between 74 and 116 hit 61.059096% of the time. Again, you are covering 42 sum ranges.

    To get minimum 63% in Jersey, one would have to play all sums between 75 and 118 which hit 63.21177%. That is 43 sum ranges.

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      Posted: December 27, 2010, 1:34 am - IP Logged

      LotteryTechInc,

      "WRONG!! You are suppose too win..."

      Odds of 575,757 to one and you're supposed to win huh? That's about as credible as Stack47 "guesing" there have ben 90 jackpots paid when there were actually 149.

      You guys are a lottery commission's, and a system seller's, wet dream.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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        Posted: December 27, 2010, 1:38 am - IP Logged

        COIN TOSS

        Odds of 575,757 to one and you're supposed to win huh? That's about as credible as Stack47 "guesing" there have ben 90 jackpots paid when there were actually 149

         

        Are you on crack or something??? the odds say that somewhere  in the US where lottery games are played there will be  at least 1 winner otherwise no one  would play look at the odds in PowerBall  and MegaMillions and PEOPLE still win in those games

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          Posted: December 27, 2010, 2:16 am - IP Logged

          Silly me, I thought this thread was about a 5/39 game. Sillier me for expaecting people to have read the OP.

          And by the way, the only one who is supposed to win, regarldess of the game, is the lottery.

          How many MM and PB ticket do you think are played and how many jackpots are won? Sure people hope to win, but there is no supposed to for the players. You are supposed to hit anything that does not pay, which is what happens most often. On a 5/39 game the most common is 0 or 1 hits.

          On Pick 6 it is 0, 1, or 2, all of which pay nothing.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: December 27, 2010, 10:09 am - IP Logged

            Well that clears it up. For a minute I thought we might be playing BINGO. 

            IMHO it doesn't matter to the state whether anyone wins as long as the money keeps coming in. 

            Another thread here says states are trying to make their games more attractive. But it doesn't say they are trying to make more winners. The only motivation the state seems to have is to attract more dollars.   

            Yes, the state needs winners or the game would become a taxing white elephant spending more than it is taking in.  And when that happens it is time to change the matrix, or introduce a new game, better prizes, or quit offering it.

            If the state really wanted you to win, they'd be offering state approved lottery systems, or state endorsed wheeling software. Not to say they won't or haven't thought about it before now.

            Selling a state system to beat a state lottery would attract new players and bring in more money from system sales!  That would be hedging their bet!

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              Posted: December 27, 2010, 10:59 am - IP Logged

              His last win in NH WAS SEPTEMBER 2010

              PLAYER, STEVE PLYMOUTH NH PowerBall $3408.00 No

              I must say that the more you spend the more you win when it comes to playing any lottery game.I myself play the percentages. There is no difference between me buying 100 tickets as opposed to 100 people buying 1 single ticket. Steve Player to my knowledge plays a lot of tickets. I too remember reading the post about the verification of wins in NH and do remember that the person from the lottery commission clearly stated that he has cash tickets under a corporate entity and not under Steve Player.Whats also not factored into his big wins is the amount he has spent per draw to obtain such a big hit. I personally believe we all can come up with a system that will be just as effective as long as we go all in and spend the cash. 

              GOAL, WHAT IS YOUR SHORT TERM GOAL ? TO REACH PHIL IVEY STATUS!!!

              IVEY(This is the best poker player in the world, Phil IVEY!!!)

              Take's a POSITIVE vision to get to that  MILLION !

              Always play where/when YOU have the advantage !!!!!

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                Posted: December 27, 2010, 12:44 pm - IP Logged

                Stack47,

                You are making many assumptions. There have indeed been 149 Jackpot winners for this game this year. So much for your guessing about 90 jackpots have been paid this year. The multiple winner draws are listed below, too, as shared jackpots.  The IL Lottery sends a daily e-mail of results and payouts if you ask for it. They look like this:

                LITTLE LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR FRIDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2010

                WINNING NUMBERS: 01 - 03 - 15 - 22 - 27

                PLAYERS MATCHING 5 OF 5 NUMBERS
                INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS 1
                EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE $100,000.00

                WINNING TICKETS WERE SOLD AT

                201862 7-ELEVEN #33876B (QP)
                1418 HINTZ RD
                ARLINGTON HEIGHTS/60004

                This is 2010 thus far:

                To date:

                149 Jackpots

                65 PP

                130 QP

                Solo jackpots: 113

                Shared jackpots: 36

                Highest jackpot:

                $1,125,000 Split five ways on Sep 21, 2010

                Average jackpot: $229,986

                Total jackpot money paid out to date: $34,268,000

                If you care to see the results jackpot by @!#$%^&  jackpot they are in this thread:

                 http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/206575/15

                There are also similar threads for 2008 and 2009. Or you can just keep telling us what you "Guess" hit.

                When you are ready to back up what you say with actual results and not pure opinion I'll pay a little more attention to you. By the way, did you ever list those payouts for one digit hits in Kentucky? I still can't find a thing about that on their website or playslips.

                Since this thread is about 5/39 games I invite you and everyone else to pick a state, pick a 5/39 game and actually track it. Then we'll talk.

                Until then, Steve Player is waiting or 20 people per 5/39 state to send in the $747.50.

                My "guess" was based on the assumption there was a total of 149 jackpots paid out and not on the actual data. I didn't see the actual data because you posted it before I finished my post. The ratio I used was 1.5:1 when the actual ratio is 1.3:1.

                But the point I was trying make was about Steve Player's claim that his group of numbers will win 63% of the jackpots. We don't know if that means in 63% off all 358 drawings or exclusive to the 149 drawings where a jackpot was won.

                "Until then, Steve Player is waiting or 20 people per 5/39 state to send in the $747.50."

                If someone does buy the system and wins 63% of the jackpots, the statistics will still show that if over time 67% of the purchases are QPs, 67% of the winning tickets will be QPs.

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                  Posted: December 27, 2010, 1:01 pm - IP Logged

                  Stack, just so happens......

                  My curiosity was peeked by the ad, more than the discussion so I set up a routine to determine what SUM RANGES hit 63% of the time. I don't have access to the Little Lotto data so I used the 3931 draws of Texas Cash 5 and 4689 draws of the NJCash5.

                  Sum ranges between 74 and 116 hit 63.0374% of the time. Not to derail the discussion, but this means you cover 42 sum ranges which encompass about 217,000 numbers with no filtering.

                  In Jersey the sums between 74 and 116 hit 61.059096% of the time. Again, you are covering 42 sum ranges.

                  To get minimum 63% in Jersey, one would have to play all sums between 75 and 118 which hit 63.21177%. That is 43 sum ranges.

                  A group of numbers may mean 25 numbers where a full wheel would cost $53,130. I can't see anyone buying a $747.50 system with nothing more than a 63% winning jackpot claim.

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                    I think we're beating a dead horse across the head on this. If you think this system will help you, and

                    you want to buy it go ahead. If you feel this is a crack of mess don't buy it. Personal for me it's two much

                    money for me. For all those that do buy it let me know how this turn out for you.

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                      well i compared the wheel i made for a $750  purchase to NY pick 5/39 game and results are in

                      match 2 =80

                      match 3 =9

                       

                      so about $180 cash and 80 free tickets. not quite the $750 cost, lucky i didnt play em for real.

                      2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

                      keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297


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                        Posted: December 27, 2010, 4:15 pm - IP Logged

                        Only a KNUCKLE HEAD would spend  that much money on a system and I DON'T think we have any knuckle heads in this forum (well maybe we do regarding debate about systems and quick-picks)

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                          Posted: December 27, 2010, 5:01 pm - IP Logged

                          Nice attempted dig, LTI.

                          How soon we forget:

                          http://www.lotterypost.com/topic/216185

                          "Steve Player" fans can send him the $$$$$, or get some help from Lola.

                          Lola helps you select six lucky numbers with the push of a button. The crystal ball lights up and the winning numbers will be spoken. Different every time. Ball point. Blue ink. Requires two button batteries, included. 7" long.

                          Lep

                          Lola specializes in the UK lotteey.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Posted: December 27, 2010, 6:46 pm - IP Logged

                            Coin, just curious for you to get a newsletter/catalog (snail mail) does that imply you purchased something from him in the past?  I did find his story telling on his web site quite entertaining.  So I could see people buying his systems.  When I unveil my widowmakersystem e-book I plan on marketing with some lottery honey girls.Wink

                            Jimmy

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                              Posted: December 27, 2010, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

                              Msny moons ago I purchased a very low cost system from Wiin - Trak. Rentting mailing lists is a big business and I guess they had me on one and rented it to Steve Player. (They too are no prize). Knowing a little bit about mail order, I knew that four color printing and shipping on a catalog that size is not cheap, that started me to thinking.

                              *****

                              I like the idea of the lottery honey girls!

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

                              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.