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What is a lottery system? What distinguishes a lottery system from guesses, dreams and quick picks?

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ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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ameriken

The only difference between a QP and a SP is the quality of the set.  A QP can be just as good as a SP but

not all QP's have as good a chance of winning as a well balnced SP.  If you look at the winning set for the

mega millions drawing it contains all the nessary parts that make it a very good set to play even if it was

a quickpick.  The problem with QP's is that many are from the bottom of the bucket meaning they don't

have what it takes to win in most draws.  A good line does not mean it will win but it does have a better

chance.  Play QP's when you need a break but do some very simple counts when you buy it and if it does

not meet your minimum expectations then have it cancelled and get another.  I have purchased $5.00 QP's

in the past that had less then 15 different numbers on the five lines.  The digit counts also put them in a

very bad spot for winning anything.  When playing random always look for the largest coverage of numbers.

It took over half a billion tickets to win the last mega million drawing  and I would bet most of them were QP's

Some people think that because more QP's win,  it is because they are better.  I think that when a QP hits it

was because it was a good set and had nothing to do with being a QP, a good set is a good set. 

 

RL

"The problem with QP's is that many are from the bottom of the bucket meaning they don't have what it takes to win in most draws."

And that's what actually stops me from buying QP's, I don't like the qualities of many of the selected combinations in QP's.

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    You must really believe everyone is stupid.

    Rambling on about how your program, with correct settings attained through hindsight, COULD have helped you, is of no value to me, or anyone else.  You have programmed a fancy RNG which you know will fail any scientifically designed backtest, so you just keep offering up smoke screens.  And it's despicable the way you keep trying to derail the discussion by bringing up religion and God with VISIONDUDE.

    BO BO

    What was posted was what you wanted, from this you should be able to predict the conditional odds

    for success using random selections.  If I can predict the last few digits with a better then expected 

    average then you could even add this to your test.  I know I am on to something when I can get the

    bible thumper and the atheist togeather defending each other. If this can be done then I think the 

    digit system could hit a few 3 of 5' and a couple 4 or 5's within a year with ease.  I happen to like 

    visiondude,  I just wanted him to see a few things from my point of view and I think when he looks

    a little deeper he will know what I was doing and I hope we can be friends.  I don't expect you to

    understand what was going on but I know he does.  Sometimes our passions can overide what we

    endeavor to control.   

    RL

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      All you have to offer as proof is the word of someone else who could have written it many years after the

      fact. I am not trying to avoid showing proof I just don't feel the need.  If I posted my results how would I

      ever have any time to explain the system to the thousands of people who would want the goods from the

      horses mouth so to speak.  I have sent out about 40 copies of my oold dos software and ended up with

      hundreds and hundreds of emails asking how do I do this and how do I do that.  I liked doing this but it

      took all my free time.   Those who are really interseted can read the post and test it for themselves.

      They can use the basics and play a few sets using pen and paper.  To do what you are asking would cost

      me thousands of hours of my time.  I guess I could do this and then just leave but what good would that 

      do.  Feed a person and he will be hungry again, Teach a person to fish and he can feed himself.  The proof

      you seek is written on the many pages of these many post.  I continue to post from time to time so that I

      can explain a few questions in a plublic forum that prevents me from having to reply to many many request.

      So many like yourself ask question when the answers are right in front of them.   Each person is unique

      and some are left-brain and some are right.  some people are very good at math and some are not, Some 

      can see patterns and some cannot, some can see the advantage of playing digits and some cannot.  Your

      reply is exactly what I expected.  You need to consider what I have written and take a day or two to think

      it over.   Proof I will never ever post it and you would do well to consider this.  I would also like to say that

      I do believe in GOD without question and used the previous post only as a means to reveal the many flaws

      that are common to man. 

      RL

      nope.  but since you insinuated......i also have archaeology, science, the eyewitness testimony of people who were opposed to Christ (obviously non biased there), mathematics, odds,  affirmation based on previous information unobtainable my human manipulation, etc.  so see, i am more than able.

      anytime i need to go down that road,  you pay for the speeding ticket :)

      now back to your "excuses"...

      " I am not trying to avoid showing proof I just don't feel the need"

       that's what they all say (when pressed to showcase thier claims). 

      " If I posted my results how would I ever have any time to explain the system to the thousands of people who would want the goods from the horses mouth so to speak

       tis simple.....you don't have to.      the word "no" is one the most effective words in the english language,  but really,  this but a lame excuse so you can sell it that "you can't".   all you have to do is post,  there is no law you have to explain.

      "To do what you are asking would cost me thousands of hours of my time".

       i am trying to figure out if this is a straight up lie for an excuse,  or it really takes you THOUSANDS OF HOURS to come up with your picks for each drawing.   man,  i was demonstrating how lottery pursuit beyond a reasonable / minimal effort is a waste of time and money,  but that much effort for "maybe" a profit?   yikes.    facetiousville recognizes that's a lame excuse.  the answer is no it wouldn't.  pick the game and place your numbers pre draw.  if it takes you "thousands of hours" to do that......you need a new hobby.   when that's profitable in the equity market of life

      "Proof I will never ever post it and you would do well to consider this".

      i already knew that before i asked you.  the reason i did was to use you as but another example that it cannot be done,  despite the myriad of people that insist it can.

      seperating the claimaints from the i cans.   it's what i do

      you see,   what i do is seperate reality from wishful thinking,  so that i can provide that person who straddles the fence from reality into desperation-land,   so they don't have to reside in it.

      getting them to thunking,  sose they don't waste their time and money chasing an impossibility,  while providing them a showcase of "what if"........meaning if it really were true,  THEN they could pursue.

      the fence sitters love my dance,  and wait for guys like you to finally "prove it". 

       it's a service i provide

      can you imagine thier disappoinment when one by one no one ever does?

      vision likes stories that end well,  where proof leads to a good result. 

      i also like the demonstration of reality,  because wishful thinking leads to nothing but disappointmentland.

      you will never catch me being the accesory to that crime of humanity.

      the board looks for more convodiluted excuses.

                  "i am .........."meant to"       

      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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        made a mistake

        RL

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          nope.  but since you insinuated......i also have archaeology, science, the eyewitness testimony of people who were opposed to Christ (obviously non biased there), mathematics, odds,  affirmation based on previous information unobtainable my human manipulation, etc.  so see, i am more than able.

          anytime i need to go down that road,  you pay for the speeding ticket :)

          now back to your "excuses"...

          " I am not trying to avoid showing proof I just don't feel the need"

           that's what they all say (when pressed to showcase thier claims). 

          " If I posted my results how would I ever have any time to explain the system to the thousands of people who would want the goods from the horses mouth so to speak

           tis simple.....you don't have to.      the word "no" is one the most effective words in the english language,  but really,  this but a lame excuse so you can sell it that "you can't".   all you have to do is post,  there is no law you have to explain.

          "To do what you are asking would cost me thousands of hours of my time".

           i am trying to figure out if this is a straight up lie for an excuse,  or it really takes you THOUSANDS OF HOURS to come up with your picks for each drawing.   man,  i was demonstrating how lottery pursuit beyond a reasonable / minimal effort is a waste of time and money,  but that much effort for "maybe" a profit?   yikes.    facetiousville recognizes that's a lame excuse.  the answer is no it wouldn't.  pick the game and place your numbers pre draw.  if it takes you "thousands of hours" to do that......you need a new hobby.   when that's profitable in the equity market of life

          "Proof I will never ever post it and you would do well to consider this".

          i already knew that before i asked you.  the reason i did was to use you as but another example that it cannot be done,  despite the myriad of people that insist it can.

          seperating the claimaints from the i cans.   it's what i do

          you see,   what i do is seperate reality from wishful thinking,  so that i can provide that person who straddles the fence from reality into desperation-land,   so they don't have to reside in it.

          getting them to thunking,  sose they don't waste their time and money chasing an impossibility,  while providing them a showcase of "what if"........meaning if it really were true,  THEN they could pursue.

          the fence sitters love my dance,  and wait for guys like you to finally "prove it". 

           it's a service i provide

          can you imagine thier disappoinment when one by one no one ever does?

          vision likes stories that end well,  where proof leads to a good result. 

          i also like the demonstration of reality,  because wishful thinking leads to nothing but disappointmentland.

          you will never catch me being the accesory to that crime of humanity.

          the board looks for more convodiluted excuses.

          Vision

          Why can't you accept the word NO.  I will not do what you ask. It would do nothing but open the door to even

          more issues that would require even more of my time.  I have posted enough information that anyone could

          use to test it for themselves.  You keep using the wording that I am somehow minipulating the draw in some

          fashion and I don't know where you got that.  The time issue is what would be envolved to answer everyones

          questions on how do I do this.  I can't predict what will happen in the next draw, When I see data which by the

          way is not static, I jump in and play.  Even this does not mean I am correct or I would be a multi-million aire by

          now which I am not.  I take back what I said in my last post as I no longer have that opinion of you and think 

          you are just another windbag like jimmy.  You tell me just say NO but that must exclude you and if it excludes

          you then who else might not accept it.  I am saying it now NO, NO, NO.  Now you can slither back where you came

          from and practice your hypocrites somewhere else.

          RL

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            visiondudnope.  but since you insinuated......i also have archaeology, science, the eyewitness testimony of people who were opposed to Christ (obviously non biased there), mathematics, odds,  affirmation based on previous information unobtainable my human manipulation, etc.  so see, i am more than able.

            A simple picture of God would go a long way.  When you show yours I will show mine.  You see the problem

            with people like you is that you have no proof. I can and have shown my winning tickets to many and that

            would be more than any thing you could show me to prove that there is a GOD.  Go ahead and babble, babble

            babble all you want about being some kind of know it all, when you are nothing more than a control freak.  You

            and jimmy both would not accept scans of tickets as proof but you yourself cannot muster up anything that 

            comes close.  Jimmy said "who here could not come up with tons of them"  Well jimmy I would be happy to

            see just two scans of winning 4 of 5 winning tickets for anytime in the next couple days.  I want the same proof

            that you ask of me.  I don't want to hear pointless bits of information but I want to see GOD.  Like I said I will

            show you mine when I see yours. What a hypocrite you are in every since of the word.  You set yourself up as a

            judge but you are no judge, you set yourself up as a defender of truth and you don't know the truth.  What a

            scam you have going.  I don't want no second hand proof I want just what you expect from me.  You want the

            numbers in advance of the draw which would amount to me wanting to see GOD.  Just what I thought, you can't

            produce GOD so who is being untruthful now.  V_I_S_I_O_N_D_U_D_E.  No wonder so many have fallen away

            from the faith when they have leaders like you.  Remember produce GOD himself and I will provide a list of predraw

            numbers.  Fair is fair.  Just what I thought as we all already know that you can't.  The world is full of people like

            you that claim something but can't produce the proof when asked.  Just a bunch of second hand gossip that would

            not hold up in court.  Maybe right after you show me you can get him to make a appearence before the local school

            board and get creation back in the school system.  Seems like such a small thing when you think about it. 

            Where were you durning the big Scopes monkey trial in 1925 maybe with all your evidence you could get that

            decision overturned.   If you have the proof as you say then I think that you should go for it.  But wait, you don't

            just like I already knew.  You see two can play this game, I want all the people who are riding the fence to see

            just what you offer.  Now I am no longer accepting pics I want to see the real thing as I think it's only fair. 

            Don't bother me with your second hand data, I want the real thing or nothing at all from you.

             

            RL

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              You must really believe everyone is stupid.

              Rambling on about how your program, with correct settings attained through hindsight, COULD have helped you, is of no value to me, or anyone else.  You have programmed a fancy RNG which you know will fail any scientifically designed backtest, so you just keep offering up smoke screens.  And it's despicable the way you keep trying to derail the discussion by bringing up religion and God with VISIONDUDE.

              Jimboo-boo!!!!

              Too bad you can't program a fancy scientific backtest. Hardest part might be programming, in your case. But IF you were a programmer, you could have built 90% of the necessary tools to see a bit RL's system just by what he has posted thus far. Of course, that takes work, initiative, and drive. The only stick-to-tiveness you employ is the letter 'D.' Denigrate, disparage, and deride.

              There were some worthwhile posts with nice points this morning. RJOH, ameriken, and Guru101 posted some good stuff. No thoughts on those?

              Then your post says, "Give me your program and I'll 'prove' it with my couch potato Magic Ju-Ju and clown shoes."

              RL, hit it on the head last night. You can't look at anything with an open mind, you are only out to prove what you want to see.

              Jimboo, a continued litany of destruction is stressful. Have you checked the mirror and seen the wrinkles forming in your forehead? The red, bloodshot, puffy eyes? Do you carry a worry stone? Have you been checked for OCD? Maybe you need to upgrade those meds.

              The 10% of RL's system you're seeing, and using to make your judments on, are such a small part. It's like looking at ink blot tests claiming all the 3s are 8s.

              I've pointed out the failure of any backtest, stressing that you can't go back to a prior point in time and know what you would be thinking at that particular moment. You refuse to accept that. I was kind enough to ask what you were calling QPs and how you backtest them. NO answer.

              RL has said his system is concentrated on future draws. You cant accept that. So here's a BIGGIE question.

              Pull your BIG BOY PANTS up for this:

              HOW DO YOU INTEND TO BACKTEST A SYSTEM THAT IS DESIGNED TO SEE EACH INDIVIDUAL DRAW AS A SEPARATE AND FUTURE EVENT?

              That is going to take some serious mathitude!

              YOUR BACKTEST WOULD WORTHLESS AS WELL. RL has stated (many times) he does not play 312 times a year. He plays when that certain trackable criteria gives an advantage.

              How can you miss these key points? This is like Reading 101 for Triple A (Athletes with Art Apprecitation degrees).

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                One day we may very likely see something like this.....

                Someone hits a huge jackpot and when asked how they came up with the numbers they go off on a tangent about O/E, H/L, balance, overdues, hot cold, etc...

                Then their spouse starts cracking up and when asked what is so funny they say, "We walked by one of those "Get your weight and lucky numbers" scales and those are the numbers the scale gave."

                Green laugh

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  One day we may very likely see something like this.....

                  Someone hits a huge jackpot and when asked how they came up with the numbers they go off on a tangent about O/E, H/L, balance, overdues, hot cold, etc...

                  Then their spouse starts cracking up and when asked what is so funny they say, "We walked by one of those "Get your weight and lucky numbers" scales and those are the numbers the scale gave."

                  Green laugh

                  CT

                  That would be a good one to do just for a good laugh.

                  RL


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                    This is a hilarious post and response.

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/229338/2004986

                    I just printed a screen capture of it and tomorrow it will be on the bulletin board in the break room of the math department of a university near me.

                    Good and bad "quality" QuickPicks.  Priceless!

                    Rdgrnr poked some fun at this thread over in the Lottery Discussion Forum a while ago when he said, "It's not important if you win. It's only important to have a good set of numbers. And just because your numbers lose doesn't mean they're bad numbers. It's better to lose with a good set of numbers than win with a bad set.  Makes perfect sense to me."

                    --Jimmy4164

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                      This is a hilarious post and response.

                      http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/229338/2004986

                      I just printed a screen capture of it and tomorrow it will be on the bulletin board in the break room of the math department of a university near me.

                      Good and bad "quality" QuickPicks.  Priceless!

                      Rdgrnr poked some fun at this thread over in the Lottery Discussion Forum a while ago when he said, "It's not important if you win. It's only important to have a good set of numbers. And just because your numbers lose doesn't mean they're bad numbers. It's better to lose with a good set of numbers than win with a bad set.  Makes perfect sense to me."

                      --Jimmy4164

                      Hilarious indeed!

                      Rdgrnr should get a "Yogi Berra Award" for that one.

                      Even more hilarious, there are people that feel the way rdgrnr described!

                      Scared

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        This started out as a pretty good thread until the ego's became invested.

                        Why does anyone have to show any proof for something in an internet forum? Better yet, why does anyone have to prove anything to YOU or anyone else? Is there something to gain or some particular benefit by having visionsdude or jimmy4164 or some other random unknown and meaningless member of a forum believe what someone says on an internet forum?

                        Instead of this thread being a serious lottery discussion, it's more of a battle of egos and 'prove it'. Seems to me that those who are demanding 'proof' are more interested in winning a game of 'gotcha' rather than winning a lottery.

                        it's pretty simple,  the explanation of the deterioration thereof...

                        i start off offering a systematic counter (known as an "opposing opinion" in debating circles) to the many assertions made by system players that "they' can manipulate the outcome, which is what this thread is about,  the breakdown of what distiguishes what from what.

                        while firm and yet confrontive about what i believe to be a position that cannot be backed up with actual proof,  i start out respectful. 

                        my aim is to give opposing info that makes a person consider all sides.  good & negative.

                        that shouldn't be a problem with those in life who reside on the "integrity" side of the fence.

                        if system players really have something,  why wouldn't they want a guy like me turning the dirt over to see what's underneath? 

                         to a person with something,   that's a golden opportunity to showcase what you have,  and to silence the critics. 

                        not in here though.   when i finally get to that point with someone,  it's the cry foul from the crowd.

                        tells alot about the "abilities" to do what they say they can.

                        "silence" isn't proof.   in fact,  it's a sure sign they can't.

                        then,  because i have this ability to get down to the point,  and apply common sense to what i believe is a felonious position,  some people who are in a weak position of life cannot take the heat when something they pursue comes under intense scrutiny.

                        so,  the cry babies scream foul, and then it descends from there.

                        that taint my fault. 

                        i don't pick at, prod, poke, chase or play with people who are respectful.   just the arrogant ones.   the ones that stick their neck out,  and hand me in invitation.

                        then i go to work systematically demonstrating they are full of wishful thinking,  and that's putting it politely.


                        "they" think they are arrogant enough to NOT be challenged on any level,  and when they are,  they cry about it.

                        once their "arrogance" and "sarcasm" reaches a certain level,  that's when i pull out the "prove it card".

                        it's what i do.

                        cracks me up.   compared to what you guys claim,  and you think you have the right to cry "foul" when someone slices your position open for every one to see.

                                    "i am .........."meant to"       

                        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

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                          visiondudnope.  but since you insinuated......i also have archaeology, science, the eyewitness testimony of people who were opposed to Christ (obviously non biased there), mathematics, odds,  affirmation based on previous information unobtainable my human manipulation, etc.  so see, i am more than able.

                          A simple picture of God would go a long way.  When you show yours I will show mine.  You see the problem

                          with people like you is that you have no proof. I can and have shown my winning tickets to many and that

                          would be more than any thing you could show me to prove that there is a GOD.  Go ahead and babble, babble

                          babble all you want about being some kind of know it all, when you are nothing more than a control freak.  You

                          and jimmy both would not accept scans of tickets as proof but you yourself cannot muster up anything that 

                          comes close.  Jimmy said "who here could not come up with tons of them"  Well jimmy I would be happy to

                          see just two scans of winning 4 of 5 winning tickets for anytime in the next couple days.  I want the same proof

                          that you ask of me.  I don't want to hear pointless bits of information but I want to see GOD.  Like I said I will

                          show you mine when I see yours. What a hypocrite you are in every since of the word.  You set yourself up as a

                          judge but you are no judge, you set yourself up as a defender of truth and you don't know the truth.  What a

                          scam you have going.  I don't want no second hand proof I want just what you expect from me.  You want the

                          numbers in advance of the draw which would amount to me wanting to see GOD.  Just what I thought, you can't

                          produce GOD so who is being untruthful now.  V_I_S_I_O_N_D_U_D_E.  No wonder so many have fallen away

                          from the faith when they have leaders like you.  Remember produce GOD himself and I will provide a list of predraw

                          numbers.  Fair is fair.  Just what I thought as we all already know that you can't.  The world is full of people like

                          you that claim something but can't produce the proof when asked.  Just a bunch of second hand gossip that would

                          not hold up in court.  Maybe right after you show me you can get him to make a appearence before the local school

                          board and get creation back in the school system.  Seems like such a small thing when you think about it. 

                          Where were you durning the big Scopes monkey trial in 1925 maybe with all your evidence you could get that

                          decision overturned.   If you have the proof as you say then I think that you should go for it.  But wait, you don't

                          just like I already knew.  You see two can play this game, I want all the people who are riding the fence to see

                          just what you offer.  Now I am no longer accepting pics I want to see the real thing as I think it's only fair. 

                          Don't bother me with your second hand data, I want the real thing or nothing at all from you.

                           

                          RL

                          seriously? 

                          not only is your attempt to blame me pathetic - for something you can't back up on your own position,  a position you asserted,  and not me,  your now selfish enough that your intent is to start some never ending back and forth about "god" ?

                          as much havoc as that selfish smokescreen would cause,  you could care less what it does to others watching this thread,  so long as you can escape the little spotlight on your "i can".

                          are you that weak in what you trumpet?

                          you know me. 

                          you know when push comes to shove i am not remotely the man you are when it comes to defending my position.  i will go to the Nth degree in here just to demonstrate i will back up what i say. 

                          just to demonstrate the opposite of what people like you are,   who run for the hills and blame others crying "i don't want to" when someone like me slides a little magnifying glass over your manifesto.

                          you slide one under mine,  not a problema.   the last one lasted like 30+ pages.

                          pretty much everyone reading this thread knows my penchant for "going there".

                          the archives of my username chronicles those countless rodeo's.

                          i already said......"i knew you wouldn't anyway" prior to asking you. 

                          i just used you as an example to others than when you really get down to brass tax with guys like you......the room goes quiet,  or they head for the exits.

                          your mistake  ------>  you got arrogant.

                          i actually don't mind extreme confidence,  that's a great thing.   admirable actually,  so long as it's mixed with humble pie.

                          not a fan of arrogance.....especially when someones "arrogance" infers wishful thinking on others.

                          you see how i played "nice" with rickG,  garyo,  amerikan,  etc?    that's because they play respectfully

                          you chose the arrogant route.  not a good choice with a guy like me who will eventually paint you into that corner called "proveitland".

                          so, if you wanna believe your arrogance matches your ability,  that's cool, i can go another "rodeo" in here about the god thing if your selfishness demands it.

                          should i provide a link to one of my archives were i "went there"......for like 30 pages+  of back and forth just to prove what you accuse me of "not doing"?

                          do i need to inflict that on the reading audience because you dragged "god" into this,  just because of your squeamish inabilities?

                          that's only 1 "rodeo".       i have dozens

                          just get permission from the other people in this thread if you cannot control yourself,  because you know my "penchant",  and you know i MORE than will

                          don't cry because "you can't",  and then blame me cuz "you won't".

                          that's on you

                          chalk this one up to another malignant case of arrogance i really cant-ism.

                          my only "sin" in here is my regular assault on the english language.  i like it though,  because it makes me human and FLAWED,  and therefore not above anyone else...

                                      "i am .........."meant to"       

                          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                            RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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                            This is a hilarious post and response.

                            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/229338/2004986

                            I just printed a screen capture of it and tomorrow it will be on the bulletin board in the break room of the math department of a university near me.

                            Good and bad "quality" QuickPicks.  Priceless!

                            Rdgrnr poked some fun at this thread over in the Lottery Discussion Forum a while ago when he said, "It's not important if you win. It's only important to have a good set of numbers. And just because your numbers lose doesn't mean they're bad numbers. It's better to lose with a good set of numbers than win with a bad set.  Makes perfect sense to me."

                            --Jimmy4164

                            Jimmy

                            Knowing that over half a billion tickets were sold and only one ticket won should speak volumes

                            and I would say that all thoses QP's are doing a very good job of building up the jackpot. Ridge is

                            the comic relief here at LP in my opinion and I have no problem with him taking a poke at what I

                            say.  It's not suprising to me at all that you find this hilarious and I know you made your contrubitions

                            to the JP.  I don't expect much from ridge or anyone for that matter who thinks that all sets have the

                            same chance of winning.  Just another page on the QP VS SP soaps. I have to say that I almost went

                            out and got a couple myself but my intelect got the best of me and I kept the money in my pocket. 

                             

                            RL

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                              it's pretty simple,  the explanation of the deterioration thereof...

                              i start off offering a systematic counter (known as an "opposing opinion" in debating circles) to the many assertions made by system players that "they' can manipulate the outcome, which is what this thread is about,  the breakdown of what distiguishes what from what.

                              while firm and yet confrontive about what i believe to be a position that cannot be backed up with actual proof,  i start out respectful. 

                              my aim is to give opposing info that makes a person consider all sides.  good & negative.

                              that shouldn't be a problem with those in life who reside on the "integrity" side of the fence.

                              if system players really have something,  why wouldn't they want a guy like me turning the dirt over to see what's underneath? 

                               to a person with something,   that's a golden opportunity to showcase what you have,  and to silence the critics. 

                              not in here though.   when i finally get to that point with someone,  it's the cry foul from the crowd.

                              tells alot about the "abilities" to do what they say they can.

                              "silence" isn't proof.   in fact,  it's a sure sign they can't.

                              then,  because i have this ability to get down to the point,  and apply common sense to what i believe is a felonious position,  some people who are in a weak position of life cannot take the heat when something they pursue comes under intense scrutiny.

                              so,  the cry babies scream foul, and then it descends from there.

                              that taint my fault. 

                              i don't pick at, prod, poke, chase or play with people who are respectful.   just the arrogant ones.   the ones that stick their neck out,  and hand me in invitation.

                              then i go to work systematically demonstrating they are full of wishful thinking,  and that's putting it politely.


                              "they" think they are arrogant enough to NOT be challenged on any level,  and when they are,  they cry about it.

                              once their "arrogance" and "sarcasm" reaches a certain level,  that's when i pull out the "prove it card".

                              it's what i do.

                              cracks me up.   compared to what you guys claim,  and you think you have the right to cry "foul" when someone slices your position open for every one to see.

                              vision

                              My tickets are very much the proof so until you can match this with your claims then. 

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                              What still no proof

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                              I though so.

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                              You and jimmy should start dating.

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                              Still waiting.......................................................

                               

                               

                              RL

                                 
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