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What is a lottery system? What distinguishes a lottery system from guesses, dreams and quick picks?

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garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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Posted: March 31, 2011, 5:31 pm - IP Logged

Jimboo-boo!!!!

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    RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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    RL-RANDOMLOGIC,

    You really DO believe everyone but you is stupid!

    Fortunately, Winlotta's stats for the year were at the bottom of the alphabetical list of 137 people who participated, so I don't have to waste too much bandwidth to show that you forgot about that little matter of what the average and composite player did.

    For some reason (which I think I know) you just won't give up trying to foist a snow job on the readers here.

    Stay tuned...

    --Jimmy4164

    Click here for the full summary.

    Poster         JP  5+0 4+1 4+0  3+1  3+0   2+1    1+1     PB   #Hits     $Won       $Equity   ROI*

    -------------

    Winlotta        0   4   0 140    0  1704   360   2580    2604   7392    846580       529780  2.672

    x1kosmic        0   0   0   0    0   144   120    420    1044   1728      6660       -40860  0.140
     
    All (137)       0   4   0 428  432 27240  9275  64153  124791 226323  $1772590    -$6498668  0.214
     
       Total Ticket Costs         $8,271,258
       Total Winnings             $1,772,590
       Overall Gain/Loss         -$6,498,668
     
                                      Expected                            Actual
      Category                #Wins             ROI*              #Wins            ROI*
     
      0 WB + PB              133991            0.049             124791            0.045
      1 WB + PB               66990            0.032              64153            0.031
      2 WB + PB               10508            0.009               9275            0.008
      3 WB                    23037            0.019              27240            0.023
      3 WB + PB                 606            0.007                432            0.005
      4 WB                      435            0.005                428            0.005
      4 WB + PB                  11.438        0.014                  0            0.000
      5 WB                        1.610        0.039                  4            0.097
                                               -----                               -----
      Total (Excl Jackpot)                     0.174                               0.214
     
      JACKPOT**                   0.042        0.325                  0            0.000
     
     
     
     * ROI is The Amount Won Per Dollar Spent on Tickets.
    ** The Expected Jackpot used for this calculation is $63,476,560.
       This is an oversimplified shortcut.
       An In Depth discussion of Powerball Payouts can be found here:

       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerball

       (Note that LotteryPost.com is mentioned here!)

    Jim

    Never really thought about it, just pointing out that it is a bit odd that one person seems to do a whole

    lot better then most. 

    RL

      RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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      Jim

      I just thought it over and have to say no I am not smarter then everyone else, If I was I would

      have done what most people here do who have a system, Keep it to themselves.

      RL

        Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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        does it really matter how many QP's "lose"?     that is a sidestep to truth of the validity of both systems or QP's

        the plain truth is just as i have stated...

        that in all the years LP has been operating,  not one person has demonstrated sustainability of profit over effort.

        that's a fact

        back to my "proof".

        in the real world of qualification.....winning percentage is king.   and that goes with systems OR QP's.

        so back to the standard bearer.....the 70/30 spotlight.

        that is the truth,  and that "truth" has never moved,  or been altered by system players despite years (and thousands of hours thrown at it).

        when you guys can move that winning percentage even back a few percentage points, then you begin  to have bragging rights.

        right now,  your as far away from the 50/50 deal it's entirely embarrassing,  when it comes to claims, efforts and money spent.

        complain all you want about people like me "causing trouble" in a thread like this.

        the hard facts are there on paper,  and none of you can even move it to the 65% mark

        that sure isn't my fault

        it's yours for claiming you can

        Visiondude, people enjoy coming up with a strategy to win a game. We do it because it's fun and it's a challenge. Todd created the "Lottery Systems" forum for a reason. People aren't going to get caught up in trying to prove to others their system works. The odds of winning the Hoosier Lotto jackpot are 1 in 12,271,512 and I'm certainly not going to be concerned with proving to someone on the internet who I've never met before that my system can defy those odds more than once. We system players have fun coming up with new strategies to use in the lottery. We don't care about getting caught up in "I'm better than you", animal like behavior. Go hike your leg somewhere else.

        Gonna win.Big Smile

          ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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          Jim

          I just thought it over and have to say no I am not smarter then everyone else, If I was I would

          have done what most people here do who have a system, Keep it to themselves.

          RL

          Actually, there's quite a few people here who appreciate what you do and have done. Your digit thread is perhaps the best thread I've read on LP. I finished reading all 46 pages (well, 30 pages if you take out the assinine posts by a specific member) and am quite interested in trying your system. That's an awesome thread.

          There are a couple of members stuck on damaging your good will (and anyone else who shares or discusses the subject of systems) and should be ignored because there is quite a bit of good that has come from your posts. I'm sure many others would agree.

            mayhem's avatar - 142g5yd
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            Actually, there's quite a few people here who appreciate what you do and have done. Your digit thread is perhaps the best thread I've read on LP. I finished reading all 46 pages (well, 30 pages if you take out the assinine posts by a specific member) and am quite interested in trying your system. That's an awesome thread.

            There are a couple of members stuck on damaging your good will (and anyone else who shares or discusses the subject of systems) and should be ignored because there is quite a bit of good that has come from your posts. I'm sure many others would agree.

            I second that Ameriken. I hope no one gets discouraged in the least about coming up with systems and sharing them with the rest of us. It is a good way to learn, no matter what your personal outlook is. In fact, I'm not against the naysayers at all, but I do wonder what the vigilantism is all about. Are they really trying to save us poor souls from wasting our time playing the LOTTERY. lol.

            How you do anything is how you do everything.

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              RL-RANDOMLOGIC,  i agree with you that the lottery is fixed and can predicted in the four and five digit

              drawings.    i hope that you will crack one of jackpot games. i know it is possible 

              i have to give credit to laverne maloney and libra dave, ducksafloat, and others who have posted some

              critical information over the years that is key to cracking  the four digit state lotteries.  if you look at libra

              daves numbers you will see many repeating strings of three digits within his four digit selections

              numbers for one state. laverne references strings of three that come multiple times in one day.

              the lottery is a program that someone wrote. in order to crack it you must use the data that the lottery

              provides and know how to interpret that data. All of the states whether they are computerized or not are

              fixed and they are share common patterns in the pick four. the program that selects the number is just a

              code and people crack codes everyday for a living.  the following is a small sample of how certain

              states if they have the same three digit boxed strings on the same day will return the same boxed string

              within seven days or less under certain conditions.  this pattern has not changed in years.  it only

              involves ten numbers for each drawing. the best way to maximize profit is to play the four  digit online where

              the payout is much higher.  in addition dc had multiiple box hits thereafter from each of the following strings.

              the following is from 2011

              dc org 628X both on jan 5 dc returns 628X jan 10

              dc org 358X both on jan 14 dc returns 358X jan 18

              dc tri state 445X both on jan 20  dc returns 445X on jan 26

              dc org 376X both on jan 30 dc returns 376X on feb 1

              dc org 320X both on jan 21 dc returns 320x on jan 27

              dc org 490X both on jan 24 dc returns 490X on feb 1

              dc org 719X both on feb 3 dc returns 719X on feb 5

              dc org 801X both on feb 9 dc returns 801X on feb 11

              dc tri state 873 both on feb 20 dc returns 873x  feb 21

              dc org 257X both on mar 5 dc returns 257X on mar  8

              dc la 429X both on mar 16 dc returns 249x on mar 19

              dc in 209X both on mar 16 dc returns 209x on mar 19

              dc tri state 239X both on mar 28 dc returns 239X mar 28

               

              the above is just a limited sample.  if someone does not want to play 10 numbers the exact

              number which comes can be predicted but it takes a computer program to compile all states results and

              identify strings and perform other functions on the data.  State keno is just as predictable.  i suspect that

              many people on lottery post have systems that work but do not disclose them and i would not expect full

              disclosure.  i could post a wealth of information regarding how the pick four numbers come in all states and

              how all states share the same certain patterns however i choose not too. i do not mind sharing numbers to

              help people win but i do not share methodology unless someone is sincere in collaboration.  there are some

              very talented system players on lottery post. if they all got together and collaborated the state lotteries

              would be in real trouble.

                garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                Visiondude, people enjoy coming up with a strategy to win a game. We do it because it's fun and it's a challenge. Todd created the "Lottery Systems" forum for a reason. People aren't going to get caught up in trying to prove to others their system works. The odds of winning the Hoosier Lotto jackpot are 1 in 12,271,512 and I'm certainly not going to be concerned with proving to someone on the internet who I've never met before that my system can defy those odds more than once. We system players have fun coming up with new strategies to use in the lottery. We don't care about getting caught up in "I'm better than you", animal like behavior. Go hike your leg somewhere else.

                Guru101, did you not notice the stalemate?

                "...who cares how many QPs lose.....," a one word change renders it, "...who cares how many SPs lose..."

                Seems to me the QPers do. QPers will when they realize they have twice the odds of losing with a QP."

                But thatfact would only bring out more common sense. 

                Maybe a new T-Sirt for the collection:

                Front says: "I lose twice as often with Quicks Picks....."

                Back says: "...but it don't matter!!!!"

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                  I'd like to see a system that produced a winner as much as anyone here, but i also know that it is the belief that such a system could exist that does more than anything else to make people look for one.

                  During the California Gold Rush a very few people got very rich by finiding gold, a very few. At the same time, a lot of people became very well off financially, and a few of them rich the,mselves, by selling the prospectors all the supplies they needed to go look for the gold.

                  Just re-read that and substitute jackpot for gold and system for supplies.

                  Lep

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

                    truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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                    Jimboo-boo!!!!

                    Comments courtesy of Daycare Academy near me.

                    I often wondered where you spent your days

                    I can see your artistic ability matches your knowledge of the lottery.

                      garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                      I often wondered where you spent your days

                      I can see your artistic ability matches your knowledge of the lottery.

                      LOL...surprised I didn't chew the markers, eh truecritic?

                        mayhem's avatar - 142g5yd
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                        LOL...surprised I didn't chew the markers, eh truecritic?

                        Stooges

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                          Guru101, did you not notice the stalemate?

                          "...who cares how many QPs lose.....," a one word change renders it, "...who cares how many SPs lose..."

                          Seems to me the QPers do. QPers will when they realize they have twice the odds of losing with a QP."

                          But thatfact would only bring out more common sense. 

                          Maybe a new T-Sirt for the collection:

                          Front says: "I lose twice as often with Quicks Picks....."

                          Back says: "...but it don't matter!!!!"

                          garyo1954,

                          "Stalemate?"

                          What you see as a stalemate, I see as a retreat by the digit man and his fans in response to the tough questions he has no answer for.  In your case, I see a professed clown's makeup man resorting to childish behavior.

                          If I believed the majority of people reading these posts had the same problems of comprehension as you and a few others here have, I would have left last fall.  I am encouraged when I see posts or get PMs from people who are learning something, even though they are not willing to risk the attacks they would receive from the likes of you if they were to question the value of systematic play.  What's hardest for me here is enduring disingenuous assertions and sometimes blatant lies.  Any "challenge" to your beliefs is reported later by you as an "attack."  Anyone with the time to check will find that most of the "attacks" were by those who were "challenged." 

                          What's really puzzling is how much time and energy you DDM (Digit Distribution Method) people are willing to invest in defense of your claims.  If I had a system that could beat the odds by a factor of Eleven(11) in a (5,39) Lotto game, I would be out touring the country, cashing in!

                          Could it be there is a possibility in the future of a need for a perception of credibility for this system?  If that's the case, there would be no mystery here.  It would all add up.

                          Stay tuned...

                          --Jimmy4164

                            garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                            garyo1954,

                            "Stalemate?"

                            What you see as a stalemate, I see as a retreat by the digit man and his fans in response to the tough questions he has no answer for.  In your case, I see a professed clown's makeup man resorting to childish behavior.

                            If I believed the majority of people reading these posts had the same problems of comprehension as you and a few others here have, I would have left last fall.  I am encouraged when I see posts or get PMs from people who are learning something, even though they are not willing to risk the attacks they would receive from the likes of you if they were to question the value of systematic play.  What's hardest for me here is enduring disingenuous assertions and sometimes blatant lies.  Any "challenge" to your beliefs is reported later by you as an "attack."  Anyone with the time to check will find that most of the "attacks" were by those who were "challenged." 

                            What's really puzzling is how much time and energy you DDM (Digit Distribution Method) people are willing to invest in defense of your claims.  If I had a system that could beat the odds by a factor of Eleven(11) in a (5,39) Lotto game, I would be out touring the country, cashing in!

                            Could it be there is a possibility in the future of a need for a perception of credibility for this system?  If that's the case, there would be no mystery here.  It would all add up.

                            Stay tuned...

                            --Jimmy4164

                            Jimboo-boo!!!!

                            You haven't answered a SINGLE QUESTION either.  Are those too hard for you? Truth is I haven't touched the hard ones yet!

                            Are you and JoePa sharing the same glasses or did you miss the part where "WE" all agreed dissension is fine, but redundancy is overused?

                            Jimboo-boo, if you had a system, it wouldn't work!!!! Don't you read your own posts? 

                            BTW, I'm getting PMs from the same people telling me to quit pointing out your mistakes and you'll go away quietly. I bet they are the same people who are posting in your new thread "The Kelly Criterion," which has 176+ views and NO replies.

                            Wonder why they just don't jump on the Jimboo-boo bandwagon? Promise I won't post there.

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                              Visiondude, people enjoy coming up with a strategy to win a game. We do it because it's fun and it's a challenge. Todd created the "Lottery Systems" forum for a reason. People aren't going to get caught up in trying to prove to others their system works. The odds of winning the Hoosier Lotto jackpot are 1 in 12,271,512 and I'm certainly not going to be concerned with proving to someone on the internet who I've never met before that my system can defy those odds more than once. We system players have fun coming up with new strategies to use in the lottery. We don't care about getting caught up in "I'm better than you", animal like behavior. Go hike your leg somewhere else.

                              i don't have a rash when someone says they have a strategy other than mine.   as i have noted many a time,  i could care less.

                              if i did,  i would be at LP everyday spending thousands of hoursmessing with people for sport. 

                              QP's just happen to be my methodology.

                              bares repeating.....i am not anti system.

                              but,  where the magnifying glass comes out is when people go from "fun pursuit",  to telling people they can beat the odds thru thier manipulation of the numbers.

                              that creates expectation beyond "fun" to other desperate people ......straight into serious wishful thinking land

                              when you guys cross that line,  and try and sell it as "fact",  that's when i pull out the magnifying glass.

                              you shouldn't have problem with that if you make a claim beyond a "just for fun"  proposition.

                              so yeah.  when you say " for fun",  i am cool

                              when you even insinuate an "i can for sure".......expect me to prove you can't.

                              trouble is,  when i do,   out come the backtrack  excuses like "oh we just do it for fun,  so we don't have to".

                              funny how that works

                              i got to thinking about this today,  in all the years i have been at LP, in all the "rodeo's" i have been in, not one time have i ever made an excuse to attempt to crawl out the exit door when someone sliced open for inspection on what i believed.

                              not once.

                              not one shred of me crying foul,  or whining when someone did.

                              matter of fact,  i went a rediculous amount of pages all by myself many times over,  while other believers stood and watched the "critics" come after me,  or Christianity,

                              alone

                              didn't bother me none.

                              that's what a person in a position of strength does.  they don't cry foul and head for the exits,  and they stay in it till the curtains draw.

                              you would have had me.....if it was a "just for fun scenario",  but RL got too arrogant with his "i can"

                              the magnifying glass came out,  and he headed for the exit,  then the other "i can's" are now ponying up with RL's bailout plan.

                              "Go hike your leg somewhere else".

                              you don't have a DNA strand in common with the former "DD",  would you?

                              cause that's what DD used to say.

                              funny, i never saw the need to change my username

                                          "i am .........."meant to"       

                              P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                       until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                                 
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