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Mathematics and the Lottery

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Can a winning lottery system be created with existing math formulas?

Yes-It's all in the math books. [ 228 ]  [43.02%]
No-Anew math for will have to be created. [ 78 ]  [14.72%]
Math won't beat the lottery regularly. [ 224 ]  [42.26%]
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Posted: March 21, 2015, 3:16 am - IP Logged

Not so very long ago nobody ever thought that it was possible to develop an algorithm based on the breakdown of the range of numbers into the binary code. Perhaps the record will eventually show that math professor, Joan Ginther, accomplished this in her winning strategy in conquering and defeating the Jackpot Games.

Did Joan Ginther even play jackpot style games?  I thought she just brought thousands of scratch-offs and won some major prizes.  I read someone thought she figured out an algorithm that explained how winning scratch-offs were distributed and took advantage of it.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    Did Joan Ginther even play jackpot style games?  I thought she just brought thousands of scratch-offs and won some major prizes.  I read someone thought she figured out an algorithm that explained how winning scratch-offs were distributed and took advantage of it.

    Wasn't Joan a mathematics Professor at Stanford University ?? If you are truly mathematically inclined why waste your time and effort in trying to develop an algorithm in regards to the distribution of scratch off tickets ?? I guess the answer to that is it's probably easier to beat the winning tickets into submission by buying rolls of them at a time (I did read somewhere that Joan did exactly that). BTW how's your algorithm in the Ohio Classic Lottery coming along since your five (5) out of six (6) win ?? Stay positive ! Keep your eye on the prize !

    Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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      Did Joan Ginther even play jackpot style games?  I thought she just brought thousands of scratch-offs and won some major prizes.  I read someone thought she figured out an algorithm that explained how winning scratch-offs were distributed and took advantage of it.

      If memory serves, she first won a Texas Lotto jackpot, don't know how much, but after that she played scratchoffs and won on several.

      CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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        If memory serves, she first won a Texas Lotto jackpot, don't know how much, but after that she played scratchoffs and won on several.

        Thank You, rcbbuckeye ! Hailing from Texas you're much closer to the inside (perhaps hidden) tid-bits of information.

        Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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          Posted: March 23, 2015, 11:03 am - IP Logged

          Thank You, rcbbuckeye ! Hailing from Texas you're much closer to the inside (perhaps hidden) tid-bits of information.

          Just google joan ginther. You'll find the whole story about her in philly.com

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            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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            Posted: March 23, 2015, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

            Wasn't Joan a mathematics Professor at Stanford University ?? If you are truly mathematically inclined why waste your time and effort in trying to develop an algorithm in regards to the distribution of scratch off tickets ?? I guess the answer to that is it's probably easier to beat the winning tickets into submission by buying rolls of them at a time (I did read somewhere that Joan did exactly that). BTW how's your algorithm in the Ohio Classic Lottery coming along since your five (5) out of six (6) win ?? Stay positive ! Keep your eye on the prize !

            I've never developed an algorithm for playing any game including Ohio's Classic Lotto.  Lately I haven't been playing OCL because its jackpots have been less than $2M and their cash value are 50%.  Except for Ohio's Rolling Cash5, I prefer to play jackpot games with a potential of winning $1M cash and right now MM and PB are the only ones.

            While I don't have an algorithm I have developed a set of rules using history, mathematics and observations to pick combinations I play and they are constantly changing to reflect what is happening in the latest drawings. Up to now my largest prize was a 5of6 for $1500 in 2013 playing OCL, I hoping to get lucky and do better with one of the other games I play.

            I haven't read any more about Joan since she got all that coverage in LP news I'm guessing she had her moment of fame and it ended.  Either that or she's still winning jackpots and staying under the radar.  If someone discovers a way to give themselves an edge they don't need or want attention.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              I've never developed an algorithm for playing any game including Ohio's Classic Lotto.  Lately I haven't been playing OCL because its jackpots have been less than $2M and their cash value are 50%.  Except for Ohio's Rolling Cash5, I prefer to play jackpot games with a potential of winning $1M cash and right now MM and PB are the only ones.

              While I don't have an algorithm I have developed a set of rules using history, mathematics and observations to pick combinations I play and they are constantly changing to reflect what is happening in the latest drawings. Up to now my largest prize was a 5of6 for $1500 in 2013 playing OCL, I hoping to get lucky and do better with one of the other games I play.

              I haven't read any more about Joan since she got all that coverage in LP news I'm guessing she had her moment of fame and it ended.  Either that or she's still winning jackpots and staying under the radar.  If someone discovers a way to give themselves an edge they don't need or want attention.

              ROJH, anyone who doesn't go to the Lottery Terminal and ask for a Quick Pick (therefore filling out a bet slip) falls in the category of playing an algorithm.

              ALGORITHM: A set of rules and/or procedures as pertains to the selection of a set of numbers in calculating the probability of a desired result.

              Good luck in your future endeavors !

              Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

                RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                Posted: March 24, 2015, 2:04 pm - IP Logged

                ROJH, anyone who doesn't go to the Lottery Terminal and ask for a Quick Pick (therefore filling out a bet slip) falls in the category of playing an algorithm.

                ALGORITHM: A set of rules and/or procedures as pertains to the selection of a set of numbers in calculating the probability of a desired result.

                Good luck in your future endeavors !

                "ROJH, anyone who doesn't go to the Lottery Terminal and ask for a Quick Pick (therefore filling out a bet slip) falls in the category of playing an algorithm."

                I've always thought of an algorithm being more precise and defined than that.  Under your definition anyone playing birthday or their favorite numbers are playing an algorithm.  That would include anyone who used the LP RNG and copied the results to a play slip.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: March 27, 2015, 5:09 pm - IP Logged

                  If I want to know about Monte Carlo, I can go there and play roulette or black jack in the casino. Who's paying me the trip?

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                    If I worried about math and the odds, I would never play the lottery or Keno which is my favorite casino game.  Simple math concepts dictate that all numbers (and number groups) are equally probable, so it really depends if you are around long enough for your picks to show up.  Since I am an optimist, I will keep playing!

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                      FYI

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                        Last night I was watching a NOVA program about MATH and how man has used it to describe everything to point that scientists are wondering whether if it's used to describe everything or if everything is math.  I became convinced if I knew more about math I would be able to come up with a better theory for picking my lottery numbers.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          theres a reson that all the balls are dropped simultaneously , and not 1 at a time from 1 -49 or what ever. the game would be over before the 49th ball  hit the barrel. the chaos is introduced to make the game work.,. with out the chaos, if we could predict it with math. we's have no lotto to play.

                          2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

                          keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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                            theres a reson that all the balls are dropped simultaneously , and not 1 at a time from 1 -49 or what ever. the game would be over before the 49th ball  hit the barrel. the chaos is introduced to make the game work.,. with out the chaos, if we could predict it with math. we's have no lotto to play.

                            The low payout makes the game work.

                            You can predict to win by using all combinations and in some cases that worked or still works.

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                              Posted: June 29, 2015, 5:45 pm - IP Logged

                              Hello.

                              I a also voted #2

                              You got the point - "...more dynamic". 

                               

                              1O years ago I have designed a predictive algorithm that currently is following the pan-european lottery EUROMILLIONS.

                              The last algorithm`s review occurred 8 months ago and it beats the REFERENCE or (Theoretical average) by +9% in Numbers and +3% in Lucky stars.

                              I started to follow Megamillions 1 month ago. The readings are only in number of 7. So, the figures are not reliable yet but I believe the performance will be similar in Numbers and much bettor in Megaball`s drawing than in Lucky Stars` drawing.

                                 
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